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Mark Yacavone 09-12-2014 01:20 AM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
I know you can't believe everything you see on the net. Makes sense though, what the HO package would be in the year before the four barrel 302 came out.


http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1982-1...d-mustang1.htm

Pat Cook 09-12-2014 01:35 AM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 445712)
I haven`t really looked into it much Jim, but I believe that the D8 carb is for the "regular" 2 barrel 302 used in 78 Mustang 11s,79 Mustangs and 78-79 Fairmonts etc, while the 82 only Mustang and Capris with the High Output 2 barrel 302s used a bigger carb (and camshaft as well.) The non HOs were rated at 139-143HP, the 82 HO was 157. Whatever the 82 HO carb # is, I`d bet it won`t have a kickdown lever on it.

The 2 barrel HO Mustang also had a dual snorkel air cleaner, I believe it was the same air cleaner that was used on the later model 4 barrel Mustang's.

Rory McNeil 09-12-2014 02:19 AM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat Cook (Post 445721)
The 2 barrel HO Mustang also had a dual snorkel air cleaner, I believe it was the same air cleaner that was used on the later model 4 barrel Mustang's.

Similar, but not the same. The 82 2 barrel HO used a smaller air cleaner housing than the 83 thru 85 4 barrel models. Also, the lid of the air cleaner was basically flat on the 4 barrels, while the 2 barrel lid had a tapered dome. Both versions did have 2 snorkels, which were connected via plastic ridged tubing, to a plastic duct under each inner fender , that was directed behind the bumper rebar. I have ran my 85 Mustang with and without the air cleaner and ducting, didn`t seem to make any differance. I think any benefit from the fresh air was offset by the large aluminum air cleaner housing trapping the heat from the intake manifold, and heating up the float bowls.

Rory McNeil 09-12-2014 02:29 AM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 445719)
I know you can't believe everything you see on the net. Makes sense though, what the HO package would be in the year before the four barrel 302 came out.


http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1982-1...d-mustang1.htm

Looked pretty accurate to me Mark. I test drove these cars while new in the showroom, and almost ordered a new 85 Mustang 5.0, and I still have factory sales brochures for 82,3,4,5,and 86 Mustangs, and Capris, which showed all the carburated 5.0 HOs were only available with a stick. NHRA may allow automatics , but Ford never made them that way.

rawhide 09-16-2014 04:03 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
nhraracer.com has put out a notice today that the 82 model GT is stick only and has released pistons specs also.
Roland

Joe Toller 09-16-2014 06:33 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Glad I quit when I did! I wonder who complained?

JHeath 09-17-2014 09:43 AM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Piston specs are for 2011-2014 302 engine.

Mark Yacavone 09-17-2014 01:22 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Toller (Post 446364)
Glad I quit when I did! I wonder who complained?

Too much talk about it on Class Racer

Joe Toller 09-17-2014 02:30 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Nice, a guy has to almost keep everything a secret to run a car. What's the point in helping others out or building a car if you can't trust someone will take it out from under you?

Rory McNeil 09-17-2014 03:03 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Toller (Post 446473)
Nice, a guy has to almost keep everything a secret to run a car. What's the point in helping others out or building a car if you can't trust someone will take it out from under you?

If somebody chooses to build a real combination that was actually offered to the general public in a configuration that includes the transmission the engine was available with, there should be no issues. However, if somebody finds a loophole that they most likely KNOW is bogus, well, that sounds like cheating, and in a such a situation, you might want to keep such indescretions "top secret". Of course, if you get caught after the fact, with a bogus combination, well, should that be a big suprise? I doubt that anybody would be brazen enough to show up with a 67-69 Camaro Z/28 302 with an automatic, just because a less popular combination may not be as well known is no excuse to try to pull the wool over Tech and other racers eyes. I have no idea what caused NHRA to CORRECT the 82 302 Mustang and Capri MISTAKE, but it was a mistake, and I am glad it was corrected.
(ps), Obviously my first sentence does not apply to cars 2008 and newer!


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