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blkjack 11-17-2016 06:10 AM

Re: Pro Stock weight
 
Supposedly there is a new spec Goodyear tire for 2017. Anyone know why? BTW all of you who think the factory supercars are the answer......someone will get their supercharged car to run the fastest with as little wheelstand as possible.....then what? Also while 8 second runs are ok at the track, they make for bad TV (yawn).

jmcarter 11-17-2016 08:37 AM

Re: Pro Stock weight
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 519912)
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Hate to see Erica and Jeggie behind like this.

Guess they're going back to front with GM...as for their (re: Jeggie) role in J&J losing the Mopar backing in the first place...karma is a b..ch. Lot of hubbub though since NHRA has pretty much killed PS anyway, gets very little time on the FS1 telecasts, simply too much to fit in since we have to know which Kardashian the Force girls like, how a Dodge FC stacks up against a Camaro FC (really?), the travails of Leah, ad nauseum...ok, rant over.

http://www.nhra.com/story/2016/11/16...-ways-in-2017/

cutta 11-17-2016 10:54 AM

Re: Pro Stock weight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 519912)
Other than the Camaro & Corvette (Which I don't care for anyway), can you tell the new cars on the street apart, without reading the nameplates? Wife and I were talking about that when we were out today. They all look so much alike anymore. Run them all through a wind tunnel....

It's good, very close heads up racing. MOPAR needs a better cylinder head casting. Get off that small Hemi crap. They used to have a very good wedge casting, Allen Johnson was very fast then.
Hate to see Erica and Jeggie behind like this.

Ed, do you really think the canted valve design they have is that bad? I've always heard that the powerband was much narrower but it never seemed to be terribly behind on power. I know they have a new design with a difference valve layout that they've been playing with this year. Seems that figuring out the tune up has been a bigger issue. When comparing all of the teams to the KB group. KB is winning at every end of the track, its not just power. In watching Pro Stock through the years, the most powerful cars aren't always the quickest up front, but this year. Race in and race out, KB is winning from the 60ft to the mph.

Ron E 11-18-2016 01:14 PM

Re: Pro Stock weight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 519912)
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IMOPAR needs a better cylinder head casting. Get off that small Hemi crap. They used to have a very good wedge casting, Allen Johnson was very fast then.
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I believe AJ had his best year ,as in performance advantage , on his championship a few years back. That was with hemi 99 stuff.

Ed Wright 11-18-2016 08:38 PM

Re: Pro Stock weight
 
Sure about that? You know Alan Johnson well? The cylinder head guy that did most of the Pro Stock heads at the time Johnson was the fast guy, told a friend of mine, who's heads he also did, (I was standing there) that he used the same CNC program to cut the Dodge & Chevy intake ports. They flowed the same. Don't see how that could work with a Hemi.
I recently talked to one of the top Pro Stock cylinder head men (different one now) about how the MOPARs are down on power. I asked him if those new Hemi heads they have run now can be made to flow we well as the Chevy heads they used to run. (Only place it could be) The man told me "Of course not, that's why we can't make the same power."

Ron E 11-19-2016 12:33 AM

Re: Pro Stock weight
 
Yep. I'm sure. By 2012 the p5 (or hemi 99) was the only legal head for a Dodge. Just search a pic of his 2012 car. But, I agree something is off with that motor. It hasn't taken to F.I. and the RPM limit.

Mike Schwartz 11-19-2016 12:50 AM

Re: Pro Stock weight
 
FWIW, here's a comparison between the two NHRA Pro Stock eras:

NHRA Pro Stock Championships during the 500"/2350LB era
(1982-2016)

GM 25/35 71.4%
6x Warren Johnson
4x Jeg Coughlin Jr.
4x Greg Anderson
3x Jason Line
3x Lee Shepherd
2x Erica Enders-Stevens
2x Jim Yates
1x Mike Edwards

FORD 5/35 14.3%
5x Bob Glidden

MOPAR 5/35 14.3%
3x Darrell Alderman
1x Allen Johnson
1x Jeg Coughlin Jr. (2013 only)

FORD + MOPAR combined
9/35 25.7%

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NHRA Pro Stock Championships during the weight-break era
(1970-1981)

FORD 7/12 58.3%
5x Bob Glidden
1x Wayne Gapp
1x Don Nicholson

GM 3/12 25.0%
1x Bill Jenkins
1x Larry Lombardo
1x Lee Shepherd

MOPAR 2/12 16.7%
1x Mike Fons
1x Ronnie Sox

Fireofficer5 11-19-2016 09:15 AM

Re: Pro Stock weight
 
I miss the days when a canted valve Ford engine had a .5 lb. penality
just because......


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