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Rusty Gillis 12-28-2016 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pistol Pete (Post 523241)
I remember in 1974-75 you ran off the National record with a tenth under breakout was allowed.
It was handicap racing, with the handicaps coming from the National record in your class

I think the index system came out in 1977 & if your car was faster than your given index
you were allowed to dial quicker, but not sure if you can dial different each round.
Don't think you were.

You could run a tenth under the record except there was no breakout in the final in 1971.

Ed Wright 12-28-2016 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty Gillis (Post 523252)
You could run a tenth under the record except there was no breakout in the final in 1971.

I liked that deal. In the heat, at slower tracks, not everybody could run the record. Mattered how fast you were. Kinda dumbed down now.

cmracing 12-30-2016 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 523277)
I liked that deal. In the heat, at slower tracks, not everybody could run the record. Mattered how fast you were. Kinda dumbed down now.

So, someone shows-up with their U/SA capable of going .09 under their National Index. Unless his opponent hits the tree better or can go .10 under their National Index with the same light, the guy can't lose?

Ed Wright 12-30-2016 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cmracing (Post 523377)
So, someone shows-up with their U/SA capable of going .09 under their National Index. Unless his opponent hits the tree better or can go .10 under their National Index with the same light, the guy can't lose?

Why would you think not? If he is the only car that can run that far under, and he is on time, how would he lose? Lower class cars won all the time. Very few could run so far under back then, at least around here, that there was not much "driving the stripe". A lot of the slow guys went bracket racing when that came along. Car counts went way down.
NHRA had to go to these slow indexes to draw the slow guys back. About any old thing will run under these indexes.

Hacksaw 12-30-2016 08:17 PM

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The trouble with running off the records was basically two things. There was always somebody with a soft record and he would have a big advantage, and the flip side was somebody setting the record in mineshaft conditions hurting everybody else in the same class.

Ed Wright 12-30-2016 09:59 PM

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Most were smart enough to not bomb the record, since they had to run off them. It was not that big a problem. Most I have talked to that raced back then, liked it better.

cmracing 12-31-2016 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 523379)
Why would you think not? If he is the only car that can run that far under, and he is on time, how would he lose? Lower class cars won all the time. Very few could run so far under back then, at least around here, that there was not much "driving the stripe". A lot of the slow guys went bracket racing when that came along. Car counts went way down.
NHRA had to go to these slow indexes to draw the slow guys back. About any old thing will run under these indexes.

Just wanted to make sure I understood how it was back then. I guess Class Racing was starting to die when too many people just felt uncompetitive and NHRA changed the way things ran. No more heads-up unless you were in the same class. Kept more people interested, otherwise Stock would look like Comp now, if it was even still around.....

Ed Wright 12-31-2016 02:54 PM

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Only heads ups were between cars in the same class. Had none at national events because only class winners ran eliminations. I won my first points race, at slow track, running a tenth off the record. Didn't have a real close race all day.

Ed Wright 12-31-2016 04:32 PM

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Do the guys not believing the vote was correct, expect it to be Yes by a large margin?
Is that why some believe it to be wrong? Or, just disappointed?

Jeff Stout 12-31-2016 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 523422)
Do the guys not believing the vote was correct, expect it to be Yes by a large margin?
Is that why some believe it to be wrong? Or, just disappointed?

For sure 4 people voted in multiple division once. That's 12 more votes that were counted towards the total. Don't know which way a couple of the 4 voted. I'm sure there are more that voted in multiple divisions then the 4 I know of. My disappointment was the lack of good faith in some. I didn't think I needed to write a rule book on voting.


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