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Randall Klein 02-14-2017 01:51 PM
Re: Excessive braking
 
That takes an official at the line, ain't happening. Tower call? Oil, dust, which car, and then the fight began

Hacksaw 02-14-2017 02:41 PM
Re: Excessive braking
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 526994)
That takes an official at the line, ain't happening. Tower call? Oil, dust, which car, and then the fight began
There is almost always an official at or past the finish line. They are watching for drivers :- taking down window nets, loosening belts, removing helmets and such before you reach the end of the track, you know safety issues. The trouble is it comes down to a Human making a judgement call. If a had a whisper or small puff of smoke come off one of my front tires and they came to my pit and said your Dnq'd for excessive braking, well it would not be a good ending and probably I would appear to be a bad sport. Sorry to say.

Lenny5160 02-14-2017 02:49 PM
Re: Excessive braking
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Hanig (Post 526988)
You would not have this if they enforced the rules. Smoke the ft tires at the line your out.!!! Simple.
Which page is this rule on?

Hacksaw 02-14-2017 06:00 PM
Re: Excessive braking
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Hanig (Post 526988)
You would not have this if they enforced the rules. Smoke the ft tires at the line your out.!!! Simple.
I think it was written excessive braking are grounds for Dsq. in the NHRA rule book. Can't find anything now.

Tom Meyer 02-14-2017 06:26 PM
Re: Excessive braking
 
It's in the west coast rule book, Tom

Lenny5160 02-14-2017 06:32 PM
Re: Excessive braking
 
Section 2, page 8 says:

Anytime it has been judged that excessive braking has resulted in loss of control that results in contact with the guardwall and/or light fixtures or crossing the center boundary lines, INCLUDING PAST THE FINISH LINE, the contestant will be disqualified.

Nothing about tire smoke being an automatic DQ, or even about excessive braking alone being grounds for a DQ.

Ron Ortiz 02-14-2017 06:56 PM
Re: Excessive braking
 
Section 2, page 8 says:

Anytime it has been judged that excessive braking has resulted in loss of control that results in contact with the guardwall and/or light fixtures or crossing the center boundary lines, INCLUDING PAST THE FINISH LINE, the contestant will be disqualified.

What a joke. If you make contact with the guardrail, light fixtures or cross the center line you get DQ'd anyway. Doesn't matter what the cause was. They just added past the finish line.

They used to have a rule but that is gone now, many brake slammers just were told to take it easier and I do not recall any one getting DQ'd for it.

Of course this has nothing to do with safety.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA just a late decision

The Hawk 02-14-2017 07:42 PM
Re: Excessive braking
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Meyer (Post 527028)
It's in the west coast rule book, Tom
I don't think so. The only racers I`ve had come by me with the front tires locked up and smoking like a freight train were from California. At least three different occasions and never even a warning.

Ed Fernandez 02-14-2017 08:24 PM
Re: Excessive braking
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 526997)
There is almost always an official at or past the finish line. They are watching for drivers :- taking down window nets, loosening belts, removing helmets and such before you reach the end of the track, you know safety issues. The trouble is it comes down to a Human making a judgement call. If a had a whisper or small puff of smoke come off one of my front tires and they came to my pit and said your Dnq'd for excessive braking, well it would not be a good ending and probably I would appear to be a bad sport. Sorry to say.
I guess that's why they call you Hacksaw.

ALMACK 02-14-2017 09:51 PM
Re: Excessive braking
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 526863)
This doesn't concern the suits at NHRA until someone loses their life at the stripe. Someday a 8.50 second mustang will get all tangled up (thanks Mickey) with a poor ,defenseless FWD with no roll bar and that will be all she wrote. The suits will then look at each other in disbelief and wonder how the heck did this happen. My only hope is that the FWD racer is not Gary Hampton. I like that guy !!! Furthermore, if you think this will never happen...well....the CUBS did win the World Series........
Those 8.50 second Stockers are part of the motivation for me to install a roll bar right now into my Q/SA Thunderbird.

I am only trapping 106 mph, but if I were to get rear ended by one of the 160 + mph missiles...


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