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David Lee 09-13-2017 12:21 AM

Re: S/SS Brake safety
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOverFist (Post 544954)


I am using the mopar 4 to 2 adapter, can i still use this?

J&S Racing 09-14-2017 07:26 AM

Re: S/SS Brake safety
 
Well this was good timing. Car just came back from the chassis shop and first order of business is brakes.

I will be using the mopar master with the 4 to 2 adapter like David and I'm wondering the same thing. Can the bickle piece be used with the adaptor or will a stop need to be made?

Strawboss 09-14-2017 03:46 PM

Re: S/SS Brake safety
 
We did this on a Camaro back in the late 80's. We bent a u shaped bracket about 1" wide thin metal with a hole in the center and placed it behind the MS and the push rod thru the hole. You had to slot the firewall to clear the bracket and drill holes to bolt on the MS bolts but this way there is no way for the rod to fall out. It is still that way today. This is cheap an easy to do.

B Aceves 09-14-2017 07:42 PM

Re: S/SS Brake safety
 
So for the guys or gals that buy the Lamb brake conversion don't pass up the master cylinder option.
All the master cylinders come with the life saving bracket as well from Lamb.

Kevin Panzino 09-14-2017 09:00 PM

Re: S/SS Brake safety
 
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Yep, very big deal. I remember when this came up several years ago, someone wrecked from this and posted about it on here. I immediately went downstairs and 'enlisted' my young son who was far more flexible than me to go under there and check it out. No problem, the bolt and nut arrangement was already in place limiting the back travel of the pedal ('ol Joe Scott knew what he was doing )

CMcAllister 09-15-2017 11:01 PM

Re: S/SS Brake safety
 
I've seen a number of cars torn up over the years and some guys who were lucky to not get badly hurt. On anything I'm involved with I use a positive pushrod retainer of some sort at the master cylinder. In a pinch, I've used the strap across the back of the MC or I've made a piece similar to the Bickel piece out of thin wall tubing with an end cap and a flange to capture it under the MC. I also use some sort of a positive stop on the brake pedal. Plastic brake light switches are not very secure and are often missing. Also verify the hardware, clips, pins or whatever that attaches the rod to the pedal.

Dave Gantz 09-16-2017 12:14 PM

Re: S/SS Brake safety
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 544877)
Why isn't it mandatory like a seat belt or helmet?

It could be covered in the tech inspections.

Ron

This^^

CMcAllister 09-16-2017 12:57 PM

Re: S/SS Brake safety
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 544877)
Why isn't it mandatory like a seat belt or helmet?

It could be covered in the tech inspections.

Ron

Long ago when I did tech at a local track for a few years, it was not unusual for me to reach in and give the brake pedal a jerk up and then a push down on the Mopars. Kind of surprising that some folks are unaware of the issue and how to prevent it.

Tom P 09-17-2017 10:38 PM

Re: S/SS Brake safety
 
As a Ford guy this is quite a foreign problem. Every pushrod i've tried to remove from a master cylinder required tools and sometimes naughty words. The manual brake ones have a groove in the pushrod and a clip

Here's an aftermarket adjustable one that shows it.
http://www.cjponyparts.com/media/cat...161_1.1113.jpg


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