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GUMP 04-17-2019 12:47 PM

Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St
 
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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 587069)
You do know the difference between 600 and 820 don't you??? With rare exception all the old cars have the correct shipping weight as well. But I guess all this parity stuff is still too much for you to grasp.

Yep. Seems like the rules have changed just a tad since 1971 too. Surely you wouldn't want me to add 400 lbs of lead just to replace all the Federally mandated stuff that I get to remove?

GUMP 04-17-2019 03:00 PM

Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St
 
I see that they fixed the HP to .85 today.

Bruce Noland 04-17-2019 03:16 PM

Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 587071)
Yep. Seems like the rules have changed just a tad since 1971 too. Surely you wouldn't want me to add 400 lbs of lead just to replace all the Federally mandated stuff that I get to remove?

Gump, you sure have a selective memory. Shipping weight and Horsepower continue to be the standard unless you are a member of the chosen few. You don't get to remove one pound from the shipping weight until after the car has been classified. Nice try though.

CMcAllister 04-17-2019 04:44 PM

Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St
 
The easy thing for NHRA to do would be to make the transbrakes legal like they did with the Heavy/Pro/Footbrake cars in D1. But they wouldn't go there, would they?

GUMP 04-17-2019 04:55 PM

Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 587076)
Gump, you sure have a selective memory. Shipping weight and Horsepower continue to be the standard unless you are a member of the chosen few. You don't get to remove one pound from the shipping weight until after the car has been classified. Nice try though.

Uh...the car was classified without all that stuff in it.....That's what the factories have been submitting for quite a while now....

ALMACK 04-18-2019 07:17 AM

Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 587073)
I see that they fixed the HP to .85 today.

Yep.

It's now 413 fact. h.p. for the 1320 Challenger

@ 3400 lbs. I believe that now makes the car a natural A car ( 8.23 lbs./hp )

David Hakim 04-18-2019 08:22 AM

Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 587102)
Yep.

It's now 413 fact. h.p. for the 1320 Challenger

@ 3400 lbs. I believe that now makes the car a natural A car ( 8.23 lbs./hp )

Yes, you are correct.

stock1080 04-18-2019 09:07 AM

Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St
 
don't care what brand you like, that's cool

Larry Hill 04-18-2019 11:11 AM

Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St
 
Thanks Dave. Please keep it up!

Eric Merryfield 04-18-2019 11:32 AM

Re: 2019 Challenger 1320 is now legal for Stock and Super St
 
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Originally Posted by stock1080 (Post 587110)
don't care what brand you like, that's cool

Always good to see cars put in the guide.

I think it could possibly be a interesting bracket car, with a warranty, and might lead new blood into the stock and superstock arena. Especially if Ford and GM, put out their own like minded models. Then and only then would the subject matter of a car like this competing as is in stock be something to talk about. Own class, etc. Could it happen, who knows.

Now the economics of currently building one of these for stock and superstock, aren't that compelling, as a 45K entry point or so is just the beginning. 100K done would likely be reasonable.

Someone might do it, a wrecked car would be more $ reasonable. @ 413 HP I don't think it looks like a good package. I leave it up to those in the know on the delta between this motor and the Indy motors from last year in the Camaro, etc.

A original E-Body 70 like mine or Jerry in Texas would be a better use of $ to go run at the windmills of A-Stock and A-Stick. If you want to play, be prepared to pay.

Its a bonfire of the cash, of that all must agree, whether its a 69 big block camaro, a new Camaro, a new challenger, a new mustang, or even a old challenger or cuda......

Eric


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