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4543 07-25-2019 01:48 PM

Re: Indy Quota
 
I think that the Gainesville class race should be all out also. Sometimes crazy fast air. Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

Todd Bailey 07-25-2019 01:51 PM

Re: Indy Quota
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by B Parker (Post 593152)
James Perrone Indy 2014 you went 95 under and qualified # 87. Now 5 years later I'm sure you are a little faster. But even if you have been lazy and haven't worked on your car that 95 under will still get you in. Stop complaining and come to Indy. You know you want to. Great place for you to get a sun tan. I will be there with my brother. We will cook you a cheeseburger!!!! And teach you the English language. BP

Update - Sorry James my brother says no cheeseburger for you.

Barry, bring Joe D. with you this year.

Mark Yacavone 07-25-2019 02:25 PM

Re: Indy Quota
 
Bobby x 2,
Indy is The Big Go. The original and the best. Right in the middle of the country.It's always been about going fast!

The current system is all we have but leaves a lot to be desired.
Look at it this way. Every year we get more go-fast goodies.NHRA can't seem to leave their hands off Stock.
Cars go faster every year, but the indexes stay the same for decades.
Everyone here knows the AHFS is being manipulated.

Back to Indy:
They let in 160 cars, so it takes almost a second under to get in, which is an AHFS trigger. 1.20 under is an instant hit...So, you would have 128 or more, trying to qualify or win class at the biggest race of the year, yet trying to work the system at the same time , inside a two tenths window.

I agree with NHRA on this one, (which may sound strange to some of you).
I believe it's a great idea to suspend the charade and the joke for Indy

X-TECH MAN 07-25-2019 02:31 PM

Re: Indy Quota
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 593183)
Bobby x 2,
Indy is The Big Go. The original and the best. Right in the middle of the country.It's always been about going fast!

The current system is all we have but leaves a lot to be desired.
Look at it this way. Every year we get more go-fast goodies.NHRA can't seem to leave their hands off Stock.
Cars go faster every year, but the indexes stay the same for decades.
Everyone here knows the AHFS is being manipulated.

Back to Indy:
They let in 160 cars, so it takes almost a second under to get in, which is an AHFS trigger. 1.20 under is an instant hit...So, you would have 128 or more, trying to qualify or win class at the biggest race of the year, yet trying to work the system at the same time , inside a two tenths window.

I agree with NHRA on this one, (which may sound strange to some of you).
I believe it's a great idea to suspend the charade and the joke for Indy

You are correct about ONE thing. Its a JOKE !

james schaechter 07-25-2019 02:51 PM

Re: Indy Quota
 
I think Indy still has the “hall pass” rule in effect, so no HP hits. Last big hit was Larry Hill with the Big Red Truck a few years ago.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 593183)
Bobby x 2,
Indy is The Big Go. The original and the best. Right in the middle of the country.It's always been about going fast!

The current system is all we have but leaves a lot to be desired.
Look at it this way. Every year we get more go-fast goodies.NHRA can't seem to leave their hands off Stock.
Cars go faster every year, but the indexes stay the same for decades.
Everyone here knows the AHFS is being manipulated.

Back to Indy:
They let in 160 cars, so it takes almost a second under to get in, which is an AHFS trigger. 1.20 under is an instant hit...So, you would have 128 or more, trying to qualify or win class at the biggest race of the year, yet trying to work the system at the same time , inside a two tenths window.

I agree with NHRA on this one, (which may sound strange to some of you).
I believe it's a great idea to suspend the charade and the joke for Indy


Hacksaw 07-25-2019 03:31 PM

Re: Indy Quota
 
So the guys that have an " easy " combo can let it all hang out at Indy. No repercussion, no change in AHFS. Everyone else..... all well.... now they know how far behind they are and nothing will be done to close that gap. IMHA call it bs

Nick Heath 07-25-2019 04:25 PM

Re: Indy Quota
 
What was it that Captain Jack said years ago about the AHFS - an automatic system will never, ever work?

Put another way - if AHFS actually worked at Indy, would we still have 20+ cars at -1.20+ under and another 60+ at -1.00+ every year? The "mineshaft" rule didn't help either, because Indy always became a "mineshaft" even in 95+ degree air. So, everybody could already go -1.00+ without flagging their combo for more HP. What's the point?

The AHFS is almost worthless when there are so few reasons for someone to run it out the back door. Especially now, when NHRA publishes the "Slow Averages" every 3 months so everybody knows exactly how much to sandbag to avoid getting hit with HP.

Paul Wong 07-25-2019 04:26 PM

Re: Indy Quota
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 593187)
I think Indy still has the “hall pass” rule in effect, so no HP hits. Last big hit was Larry Hill with the Big Red Truck a few years ago.

I took a big hit in 2012 too

B Parker 07-25-2019 05:57 PM

Re: Indy Quota
 
Bobby and the rest of you that think Indy should have the AHFS count. Stock and Super Stock used to be a performance based class. So the one National Event that you get to let it rip you want everyone to still play the AHFS game. We all know how to turn the distributor add more weight and oil. Why turn Indy back into that. You don't get the money we did at one time for a class win. So how many of us would run fast enough to set ourselves up for HP? Not I. The system needs work I think we can all agree on that.

Painter I was hoping to hear back from James. I haven't looked outside he probably has towed my truck.

Chuck we have no problem cooking for you. Love your entrance. Even my wife gave it a thumbs up.

Todd I called Joe twice looks like we will be holding the sign for Joe again this year. BP

Frank Castros 07-25-2019 06:15 PM

Re: Indy Quota
 
James Perrone,
Please go to Indy, you will be the man of the week and should report Live with your own eloquent take of the event.
Sincerely,
Your washed up keyboard whatever you call me friend,
Frank


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