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00SSCamaroZ 10-04-2019 09:43 PM

Re: Engine diapers on S/SS?
 
Well I don't think I've ever seen a stocker oil the track. However at the Dutch on Friday afternoon a blue 69 camaro did a moonshot wheelstand and upon landing pitched out what appeared to be the trans blanket. That was something new in my world.:eek:


Mike Z

Dinsdale 10-04-2019 10:33 PM

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We had a Jr. Dragster oil the track this year. Last weekend it was a Stick car that split the trans case. Numerous rear end explosions, auto trans blowups, oil line leaks and rad hose failures. I'd think engine failures are becoming a lot less with improved and accepted parts.

I'm all for safety but how many Diapers should be on a race car anyway. If you want to run one then fine, but I don't, probably can't fit one and don't think making them mandatory is a good move.

Doug Walker 10-05-2019 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 00SSCamaroZ (Post 599163)
Well I don't think I've ever seen a stocker oil the track. However at the Dutch on Friday afternoon a blue 69 camaro did a moonshot wheelstand and upon landing pitched out what appeared to be the trans blanket. That was something new in my world.:eek:


Mike Z

Are you referring to this ?? Blue Camaro was in the left lane. Debris was in the right lane, but may have originated from either car.
Does not look like 1969 Camaro to me, but maybe more than one car pitched its safety gear off mid track.
First time I'd ever seen this happen.

Mike Jones 10-06-2019 06:02 AM

Re: Engine diapers on S/SS?
 
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Originally Posted by Bill Grubbs (Post 599121)
Depends?

He said Depends:D

00SSCamaroZ 10-06-2019 08:17 AM

Re: Engine diapers on S/SS?
 
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Originally Posted by Doug Walker (Post 599217)
Are you referring to this ?? Blue Camaro was in the left lane. Debris was in the right lane, but may have originated from either car.
Does not look like 1969 Camaro to me, but maybe more than one car pitched its safety gear off mid track.
First time I'd ever seen this happen.

That looks like it. Thought it was a 69. Obviously not. Guess I am not a good eye witness.:confused:

Mike Z

rboyle 10-06-2019 09:38 AM

Re: Engine diapers on S/SS?
 
We had a D1 race where 3 Stockers oiled the track during the first Qualifying shot. I myself have oiled it twice. First when I bought the car I was the first car down the track at No Problem and spit a rod out at bat mid track broke the trans driveshaft and pinion yoke too. Shut the track down for almost 2 hours. So yes it does happen.

Larry Hill 10-07-2019 07:07 AM

Re: Engine diapers on S/SS?
 
After looking at the B-E body engine, steering, and headers on my stocker, it would be a lot of work and expense. The drag link runs real close to the sump and the bottom of pan, this could be a potential crash if the Kevlar blanket jams the steering. A motor plate would not help the steering situation. A tray might work until a big wheel stand. When that happens on my car it bends the oil pan against the pickup, and bends the transmission pan. The oil pan I have to fix before I make the next run. If new ss headers are needed to complete the ORD I will be done.
All of a sudden cutting bait doesn't look so bad.

Pat6868 10-07-2019 09:37 AM

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Stock eliminator- entry level. Mandatory belts every 2 years, mandatory approved collector tethers, now mandatory diapers? Sad to see the so-called evolution of this class.

Dyno 10-07-2019 10:14 AM

Re: Engine diapers on S/SS?
 
On a Hemi car with the drag link going through the oil pan (some Chevy ll’s also), I do not know how you could fit a diaper effectively. If NHRA allowed an aftermarket K frame, it might be possible.

Steve Stasko 10-07-2019 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 599307)
After looking at the B-E body engine, steering, and headers on my stocker, it would be a lot of work and expense. The drag link runs real close to the sump and the bottom of pan, this could be a potential crash if the Kevlar blanket jams the steering. A motor plate would not help the steering situation. A tray might work until a big wheel stand. When that happens on my car it bends the oil pan against the pickup, and bends the transmission pan. The oil pan I have to fix before I make the next run. If new ss headers are needed to complete the ORD I will be done.
All of a sudden cutting bait doesn't look so bad.

I must have done something wrong on my '64 Dodge when I put the engine diaper on it. I have the factory K-frame, steering, and torsion bars. Using 1 3/4" Hooker S/C headers (one tube through fenderwell). I fit a universal Jeg's diaper on the car without issue, though I did have to get creative with some of the mounting points for the support straps to hold it up.

I wasn't real fond of putting it on, but when the rules require it (I ran the car in S/ST a few times...ex-SS car), you find a way to make it work if you want to race.

While the Jeg's diaper doesn't provide the best fit, I can only imagine how much better the job would have been had I used something that was designed for the car.


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