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Riverrat 11-15-2019 07:29 PM

Re: Change the Way the National Championship ?
 
Isn't everyone going to Pomona to decide the champion the way it used to be? Top 10 in each division got to go if they had time or could afford to go. Seems a step back and would tilt the odds to the other coast. There is a gentleman there who lives 100 miles from me who is competing this weekend at Pomona who wouldn't be allowed to live his dream. Its one long haul from Moncton New Brunswick to Pomona California.

BKSG1198 11-15-2019 08:12 PM

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Also from what I was told the bracket final contestants get the same amount of cash no matter where you live. So Joe Blow who might live an hour from Pomona gets the same amount of cash as Tom Goldman who’s traveling from Pennsylvania to California. Like Tom said the cash given for travel doesn’t cover it all.

gsa612 11-15-2019 08:42 PM

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Never been a contender for a Nat.champ.(not even close..lol).But FWIW the format now seems alright.If it ain't broke,don't fix it!...gsa612

The Hawk 11-15-2019 08:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BKSG1198 (Post 601898)
Also from what I was told the bracket final contestants get the same amount of cash no matter where you live. So Joe Blow who might live an hour from Pomona gets the same amount of cash as Tom Goldman who’s traveling from Pennsylvania to California. Like Tom said the cash given for travel doesn’t cover it all.

That is correct. Everyone that qualifies (is their Division Champion or a wild card) and runs in Pomona receives $3500 and races for the Summit Nat`l ET Championship regardless of travel. The race on Sunday is a winner take all event for $5000 and a shiny NHRA National Event Wally in each class.

Don Kennedy 11-16-2019 12:14 AM

Re: Change the Way the National Championship ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverrat (Post 601893)
Isn't everyone going to Pomona to decide the champion the way it used to be? Top 10 in each division got to go if they had time or could afford to go. Seems a step back and would tilt the odds to the other coast. There is a gentleman there who lives 100 miles from me who is competing this weekend at Pomona who wouldn't be allowed to live his dream. Its one long haul from Moncton New Brunswick to Pomona California.

I am just wondering a couple of things > The playoffs could be anywhere? and why is it that every major sport has a playoff to decide the champions? And just maybe Racer who does not chase points or travel a lot or may not have the budget could stand the chance of being the Champion? Just how much money does it take to win the championship every year is a question also ? Just maybe a major sponsor could be found to sponsor the playoff race . Also just maybe a racer would not have to travel as much to get into the playoff just stay in his own division?

Ed Fernandez 11-16-2019 12:42 AM

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Just something who bailed out 9 years ago due to NHRA bull****. I ran Stock for 9 years on a poor mans budget. Had a few good years. On my budget if I hit the divisionals hard all Ineeded to do was do well at 3 Nat'ls near Div. 1 without breaking the bank. I don't begrudge guys with deep pockets, but this playoff crap takes out any chance of low buck guys from competing for the championship. I hope Billy (that crusty old millionaire) comes on here with his take on it.

Darrel Goheen 11-16-2019 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Hawk (Post 601901)
That is correct. Everyone that qualifies (is their Division Champion or a wild card) and runs in Pomona receives $3500

Actually when they added the wild card to make an 8 car field they reduced it to $3000.00.

Andy Friar 11-16-2019 07:47 AM

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Sports-ball does do the playoff, they also do player substitutions mid match/game and except for tennis and golf are team sports. Apples to pineapples comparisons. NHRA sportsman are individuals with support volunteers (at times).The current system seems ok. The nascar & NHRA playoff systems make it less fun to watch as everyone just drives around for a top 5 with no urgency to push the car, not to win or go home like we all want to watch.



One thing I don't understand is how if win the Denver NE with ~20 or less cars, you get the same points as Gainesville or Vegas with ~80 or more cars in your class. Maybe a base points system then each 10 cars qualified over 60 cars or whatever number, everyone gets 5 more points?Just a thought

Floyd Staggs 11-16-2019 08:47 AM

Re: Change the Way the National Championship ?
 
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Originally Posted by Darrel Goheen (Post 601910)
Actually when they added the wild card to make an 8 car field they reduced it to $3000.00.

Division champions in Super Pro, Pro, Sportsman, and Motorcycle receive a division champion's trophy, jacket, and purse. They then advance to the NHRA Summit Racing Series National Championship at the season-ending Auto Club NHRA Finals in Pomona, where they receive $3,000 travel money for attending the event in California and compete for a lucrative Summit prize fund, the national championship trophy, and jacket and contingency awards.

This is the check for Div 7 Sportsman champ given in Vegas to Kevin Cox.
https://i.imgur.com/c9y7ur6.jpg

The Hawk 11-16-2019 08:55 AM

Re: Change the Way the National Championship ?
 
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Originally Posted by Darrel Goheen (Post 601910)
Actually when they added the wild card to make an 8 car field they reduced it to $3000.00.

Thanks for the heads up Darrel! I haven't run the ET Finals in a while but still run my local program.


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