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Re: **Final decision on two-step usage**

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Originally Posted by herbjr (Post 44432)

If we cant allow any electronics then the 67-69 Camaro never came with electronic ignition. Oh well that has nothing to do with a 2 step or does it. I can only race a handful of races each year anyway but I agree with the earlier post the same winners will be winning.

Herb jr

Yea herb no wheelie bars or slicks either.

Re: **Final decision on two-step usage**

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Originally Posted by tgriffith (Post 44429)

Mike,,,slow cars are at a very big disadvantage to start with,,,you race one,,,you understand that there are big obsticles to overcome,,,,not that it cant be done, but doing it is tough.........when you consider all it takes to go rounds in a slow car,,,,,and top it off with a guy in the other lane sitting on a .010 lite nearly every round because of the style of racing the buttons and 2 steps have evolved most racers into,,,,makes for a grimm outlook for winning.....like I said,,,not that it cant be done,,,,,yes,,I got close,,,and if it wasnt for about 4 or 5 crybabys in Div 9,,,would have won it (another story),,,but alot of if was sheer luck,,,and didnt go hardly any rounds in the 1/4 mile,,,,,The run packages it took in 2002 wasnt nearly what it takes now....I was winning races with no better than .04 total package runs,,,,now??? I dont believe a .04 total run packge would get you past a couple of rounds,,,,,if any at all........time will tell I guess

lol...yes, I am very aware how tough a FWD/slow car can be to win with. Actually, cutting a light was never a problem with me, even dead shallow with old older stype bulbs. I was pretty killer most of the time on the tree. The twenty inch rollout sure helped with that. The biggest thing I had was keeping the car on the number when the wind and weather changed by the hour. But, you're right. The level of competition has increased quite a lot over just the past several seasons. I remember when Stock racers could average an .060 light through seven rounds, and win an event. Unless a racer was really lucky, I doubt that could be done nowadays.

I've never raced with a two-step, so I can't comment on the advantage/disadvantages of them from personal experience. I wouldn't mind trying it, to see what the hype is about. You still doing any Class Racing?

Re: **Final decision on two-step usage**

sold the stocker and sit out for a year so my son could race,,,If I traveled,,,he couldnt race his dragster,,,,too darn fast to turn him loose by hiself,,,,he was still in school and couldnt travel,,,,,he graduated and got a good job so we are back at it next year,,,so looking for a couple of cars,,,,probably run hotrod and stock next year,,,sure do mis traveling,,,it was fun !!!!

Re: **Final decision on two-step usage**

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Originally Posted by DustyLowell (Post 44375)

Posted Today on NHRA.com

10/19/2007

After reviewing nearly 500 responses from Stock-category racers regarding the usage of two-steps in Stock Eliminator, the NHRA Technical Department has rendered a final decision.

The voting results were nearly divided down the middle with 49 percent of the racers voting for two-steps to be removed from Stock eliminator while 51 percent voted for the continued use of two-steps.

Of the 51percent voting in favor of the continued use of two-steps, 61 percent voted for the application to be pedal-activated only.

?Along with their votes, most racers also included some very good opinions and suggestions,?, said Len Imbrogno, NHRA Director of Sportsman Racing and Member Tracks. "The added racer input was very beneficial to the tech department in making a decision, considering the voting was practically split down the middle."

Effective for the 2008 season, two-steps will continue to be allowed in Stock eliminator but must be either clutch- or break pedal-mounted and/or -activated. No remote button locations will be allowed.

Where exactly on NHRA.COM is this posted at cause i cant seem to find it anywhere???

Re: **Final decision on two-step usage**

look in the lucas oil division section---comp 387

Re: **Final decision on two-step usage**

Rumor has it that some of the stick shift racers have their two step hooked to the line lock button . The other rumor is ( again,..no names ) they are not about to change a thing for next year.

Re: **Final decision on two-step usage**

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Originally Posted by Mike Fuller (Post 44419)

If the majority voted this way then that is the way it will be.

A majority??? I wouldnt exactly called a slam dunk! the buttons are still here,no spec,they will just change a bit,and for the elec shifters..cant we drive cars anymore? stupid move if it happens!!

Re: **Final decision on two-step usage**

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Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 44435)

I've never raced with a two-step, so I can't comment on the advantage/disadvantages of them from personal experience. I wouldn't mind trying it, to see what the hype is about. You still doing any Class Racing?

Mikey, I'll give you some thoughts you can relate to since I used your former car for a year then stepped into a car with a two-step recently. Just like the Sunbird I can put the pedal to the metal, no stab & steer. The chip is set for 2,600 rpm. I dont need to worry about it creeping forward on me either.

BTW, I like the rule change because if they didn't make it I would have stopped using the two-step mounted on the dash because I ain't coordinated enough to make my finger and foot go at the same time. Now there is one less motion I have to worry about while going down track

Now as far as the two-steps being activated down-track when everyone starts scrubbing the brakes, maybe they could mandate some sort of switch that automatically disarms the two-step after you launch?
I'm gonna see if I can install something like that anyway because then I can run the car in Pro ET without having to uninstall everything.

Re: **Final decision on two-step usage**

Just dont step on the button.

Re: **Final decision on two-step usage**

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 44451)

Just dont step on the button.

Once your past the chip limit you can step on the brake and nothing will happen. As in 3500 chip, and your at 7000 in high gear it won't activate the 3500 side! At least not according to my MSD tester! John Lang