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Race Clean 02-11-2020 03:34 AM

Re: AA/sa heads up final
 
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Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 608027)
That was 2010 - Jason McCormack vs John Calvert; arguably the best side by side race ever. I go to Indy every year, so

Defrank vs Shaul at Pomona is just as good IMHO,9.7's side by side 11 years ago is pretty awesome to me.
Lucky enough to witness both these races at the scene.

https://classracer.com/classforum/sh...t=21778&page=3

Floyd Staggs 02-11-2020 09:57 AM

Re: AA/sa heads up final
 
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Originally Posted by Dan Bennett (Post 608001)
I'm surprised that big wheelstand didn't hurt the Camaro. Interesting that the race was essentially even at 60, but the Camaro made a much quicker move to 330. Gearing? Horsepower? Hard to tell from here, but this was one of the most enjoyable videos I've watched in a long time.

Congratulations to both racers - that was a display of how it's supposed to work.

I was with Brian once at Pomona and he tightened up the shocks 1 click to calm it down. After the run Mandella came over and said what did you. That 1 click cost almost a tenth. Phil took it out and the tenth came back. The Cobalt will wheelstand the same way. So does Kirbys Duster. All Mandella cars stand up.

340Cuda 02-11-2020 10:01 AM

Re: AA/sa heads up final
 
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Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 607989)
Thanks for posting video

Reminds me of A/S final at Indy a few years back, McCormick (?) vs Calvert

I think that was the race of the century!

Mark Yacavone 02-11-2020 12:09 PM

Re: AA/sa heads up final
 
Alright..Here we go...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj0tazghjpY

Nick Heath 02-11-2020 12:53 PM

Re: AA/sa heads up final
 
And here's Shaul vs. DeFrank in 2009 (start at 0:29):

https://youtu.be/e1_Q66R29Dc?t=29

Dan Bennett 02-11-2020 04:50 PM

Re: AA/sa heads up final
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs (Post 608054)
I was with Brian once at Pomona and he tightened up the shocks 1 click to calm it down. After the run Mandella came over and said what did you. That 1 click cost almost a tenth. Phil took it out and the tenth came back. The Cobalt will wheelstand the same way. So does Kirbys Duster. All Mandella cars stand up.


That's some interesting stuff. There's no doubt that the force used to lift a couple thousand pounds of car could be used better in moving the car forward. But maybe it serves to plant the slicks better and there would be a loss because of slight tire spin. Looking at both Brian's and Mandella's records I would never question what they say.


My experience is mainly in Comp and Pro Stock, where it always is quicker to keep the front close to the ground. Maybe it's the difference in the suspension and/or chassis stiffness each eliminator allows.


I'll shut up now, since I may be embarrassing myself with a lack of knowledge about Stock and Super Stock. :D

Dan Fahey 02-11-2020 05:43 PM

Re: AA/sa heads up final
 
Any other Videos of Heads up Finals?
Not necessarily A/SA

Troy Henderson 02-12-2020 02:59 PM

Re: AA/sa heads up final
 
I got the great A/S final in 2010 too.

A/S 2010 Indy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsis4EQeDCE
AA/S 2010 Indy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw1-Qte6_jU

Jeff Stout 02-12-2020 04:28 PM

Re: AA/sa heads up final
 
Drove a friends S/S Camaro and if it hit the wheelie bars it was faster. The thought was it spun the tires to get RPM's in a happier place sooner. Lots of gear changes in trans and rear end. Same result.

Randall Klein 02-12-2020 07:19 PM

Re: AA/sa heads up final
 
The Hemi’s have gone to tied down fronts & going faster
In my opinion they have lost some of the appeal of watching them
I like a wheels up launch, part of the fun


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