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6130 08-13-2021 03:59 PM
Re: Time For A Transmission Rule Change?
 
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Originally Posted by Chris1529 (Post 645422)
I have a 2004 Dodge 2500 diesel and an 83 Mustang GT with a T-5 that I can shift without the clutch, neither at WOT, but I'm pretty sure just about any aftermarket stick shift can be shifted w/o clutch.
The rule defines how the transmission is to be used, regardless of what it is capable of.

Ralph A Powell 08-13-2021 05:02 PM
Re: Time For A Transmission Rule Change?
 
YES!

Quote:
Originally Posted by my69396 (Post 645407)
Wasn't the rule originally that 500 had to be built to run stock and 50 to run super stock?

james schaechter 08-13-2021 05:15 PM
Re: Time For A Transmission Rule Change?
 
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Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 645406)
No in high gear ..


Ron
Ron, a stick car could and probably will be faster in high gear,not quicker. Remember that we race the entire track and part of that track is the beginning of tthe track.

Good automatic cars will own the front half of the track vs a similar car with a stick in many classes.

I am not saying they all would work, but there are many that do.

I can’t imagine an automatic FS Car Being afraid of a stick car unless they beat their hp to death already compared to the same car with a stick.

Bill Bogues 08-13-2021 11:04 PM
Re: Time For A Transmission Rule Change?
 
I think that the way automatic and manual transmissions are ran today that they should just go ahead and put them all in one class. ....... or either go back to the way it used to be: what ever came from factory is what should be used.

Rory McNeil 08-13-2021 11:38 PM
Re: Time For A Transmission Rule Change?
 
Personally, I think the modern "factory" PURPOSE BUILT race cars have made enough of a mockery of Stock Eliminator rules already, without kicking the door wide open to even more liberal allowances of non OE components.

jmantle 08-14-2021 09:29 PM
Re: Time For A Transmission Rule Change?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 645460)
Personally, I think the modern "factory" PURPOSE BUILT race cars have made enough of a mockery of Stock Eliminator rules already, without kicking the door wide open to even more liberal allowances of non OE components.
Not only have they made a mockery of it but they don't put most of the stock builds in the guide anymore.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

GUMP 08-14-2021 11:06 PM
Re: Time For A Transmission Rule Change?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 645460)
Personally, I think the modern "factory" PURPOSE BUILT race cars have made enough of a mockery of Stock Eliminator rules already, without kicking the door wide open to even more liberal allowances of non OE components.
May I ask what transmission you run?

Jack Matyas 08-15-2021 07:28 PM
Re: Time For A Transmission Rule Change?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 645460)
Personally, I think the modern "factory" PURPOSE BUILT race cars have made enough of a mockery of Stock Eliminator rules already, without kicking the door wide open to even more liberal allowances of non OE components.
Well better take me off your Christmas card list as many of the cars i've raced will fall into that category - like my '57 Fuel Injected Bel Air in the sixties or my '60 Sedan Delivery 348/320 hp with Hydra-matic transmission in the seventies or better yet my Cutlass factory racer in the eighties - then it really gets good in the 90's when I started with the Firebirds and Camaros with the 350/275 LT1's and later L S series engines and finally lets look at my 04 GTO 350/340 HP ...........And then came the COPO'S --don't you get it - there will always be the next great thing -- it's progress - get used to it !!!!!!!

Jason 08-15-2021 08:55 PM
Re: Time For A Transmission Rule Change?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 645369)
So, I am just thinking out loud on this.

Since all the new Factory Cars all run aftermarket SFI versions of Chevrolet transmissions, is it time to allow them for all combinations?

Daren Poole-Adams
Stock/SS 2007
They are already allowed. Since the Cobra Jet Mustang and the Dodge Drag Pak use a Powerglide or a Turbo 400, that means any Ford or Chrysler can use a Chevy transmissions.

6130 08-15-2021 08:57 PM
Re: Time For A Transmission Rule Change?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 645556)
Well better take me off your Christmas card list as many of the cars i've raced will fall into that category - like my '57 Fuel Injected Bel Air in the sixties or my '60 Sedan Delivery 348/320 hp with Hydra-matic transmission in the seventies or better yet my Cutlass factory racer in the eighties - then it really gets good in the 90's when I started with the Firebirds and Camaros with the 350/275 LT1's and later L S series engines and finally lets look at my 04 GTO 350/340 HP ...........And then came the COPO'S --don't you get it - there will always be the next great thing -- it's progress - get used to it !!!!!!!
All of the vehicles you mentioned were available as street cars with VIN numbers, except for the COPO...


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