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Charlie Yannetti 10-18-2022 01:41 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
While I get the jist of the conversation, that started on the Monday after the race, I'm confused as to what Huntzberry was supposed to do after the fact??..

If Casey had a win ticket, how does the loser of the previous round appear for the next round, unless an indication was made that Casey was broke.. that would give his next opponent a competition bye..

My confusion comes in with, did Huntzberry get reinstated??.. I'm thinking that Casey had Huntzberry, and Casey got the win slip, sending him to the next round.. OOOOORRR, did I miss something..

All that said, it appears that D2 failed, and let the race continue, SOME HOW!!

Larry Hill 10-18-2022 02:27 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
Jamie2370,

I'm always willing to learn new things, but I can't find where it's a disqualification for a racer to be pushed off the track by NHRA.
Would you mind sharing where in the rule book you found those rules for disqualification.

Thanks in advance.

Larry Hill 10-18-2022 02:38 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
To add to what Mr. Zimmerman knows about the dial and prestaging

After the colon the Rule Book states "No reruns will be granted due to incorrect dial-ins after prestaging"

James Perrone 10-18-2022 05:29 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
I was not there
But as Casey stated both cars were dialed on index
If there ever was a good reason for a rerun it’s that situation
I agree with you live with the dial I on your car
But both are dialing INDEX.
You guys are telling me your ok losing when it’s the same for both drivers?
Unfortunate for Casey braking his car.
Someone told Troy to go back up as the winner.
So figure who made the call

I believe the division director is the last word

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Jim Wahl 10-18-2022 06:42 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Yannetti (Post 669376)
While I get the jist of the conversation, that started on the Monday after the race, I'm confused as to what Huntzberry was supposed to do after the fact??..

If Casey had a win ticket, how does the loser of the previous round appear for the next round, unless an indication was made that Casey was broke.. that would give his next opponent a competition bye..

My confusion comes in with, did Huntzberry get reinstated??.. I'm thinking that Casey had Huntzberry, and Casey got the win slip, sending him to the next round.. OOOOORRR, did I miss something..

All that said, it appears that D2 failed, and let the race continue, SOME HOW!!

Huntzberry was reinstated by the DD because he said the tower made the mistake. Apparently the tower couldn't read the dial in on Huntzberry's car. Could be because there was no dial in on the tower side of the car and the person putting the dials on the board was inexperienced at the job and didn't know what else to do but use their indexes. Don't believe me? Go look at the video of the run. Casey got the win light and the win on the E.T. slip at the scales. Casey won pure and simple. The D2 DD is extremely inexperienced at his job also. Everyone in D2 knows this. Jim

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Jim Wahl 10-18-2022 06:55 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 669391)
I was not there
But as Casey stated both cars were dialed on index
If there ever was a good reason for a rerun it’s that situation
I agree with you live with the dial I on your car
But both are dialing INDEX.
You guys are telling me your ok losing when it’s the same for both drivers?
Unfortunate for Casey braking his car.
Someone told Troy to go back up as the winner.
So figure who made the call

I believe the division director is the last word

I

No James, the rule book and California has the last word. If this was you, YOU would be screaming bloody murder and you know it. The bottom line is the drivers bare the responsibility of checking their dial on the board. That is the rule, period. It doesn't matter who screwed up. The driver has one job before staging Neither driver did that job. The DD didn't do his job either, he didn't enforce the rules in the book! Rules are rules. That's why they charge you $10 to buy a rule book and tell you to go by them. He can not make the rules up on a whim. Jim

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Tom Meyer 10-18-2022 06:59 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
No pup in this fight, just need info. What about going up staging, break the beam and getting pushed back for the win, is this still legal? Do you still have to go down weigh and fuel check. Did his opponents time slip say looser? Did his opponent go over the scale before going to his pit, this used to be a automatic DQ. Lots of questions few answers. Maybe Bobby needs to have the Div Director on Tech Tuesday pod cast .As long as the dial in is the index or below should be legal. If the other guy would have looked up at the score board and seen that his win light was not on he should have lifted, that's twice on 1 run. Most of usually get only one chance at screwing up and still winning. Its going to be a long winter.. Tom

Jim Wahl 10-18-2022 07:11 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Meyer (Post 669399)
No pup in this fight, just need info. What about going up staging break the beam and getting pushed back for the win, is this still legal? Do you still have to go down weigh and fuel check. Did his opponents time slip say looser? Did his opponent go over the scale before going to his pit, this used to be a automatic DQ. Lots of questions few answers. Maybe Bobby needs to have the Div Director on Tech Tuesday pod cast. Its going to be a long winter.. Tom

Yes, you must stage and take the green, which Casey did. He also went down the track and scaled. The time slip (both drivers got the same one) gave Casey the win. The video shows the win light in Casey's lane after Troy broke out. This was not a bye run just because Casey broke on the run. Troy was making a run in competition. I have no knowledge if Troy scaled after the run or not. I have to assume he did. It used to be in the old days you had to make the run under your own power, great for the spectators, watching the driver push his car down the track, but that took too much time and that was abolished and the broken car can be towed. Jim


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G Schenck 10-18-2022 07:21 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 669381)
Jamie2370,

I'm always willing to learn new things, but I can't find where it's a disqualification for a racer to be pushed off the track by NHRA.
Would you mind sharing where in the rule book you found those rules for disqualification.

Thanks in advance.

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
5049 Michael Chitty 1 Jimmy Lewis
E1 0.008 6.706 206.37 ****WINNER**** 0.012 64.999 NS
TS Dial: 6.72 (+/-): -0.014 TS Dial: 6.24 (+/-): 58.759
Qualified: #21 6.729 205.60 #5 6.247 226.42

Jimmy went on to win the the event after being pushed off the track by NHRA first round in Dallas

Casey Miles 10-18-2022 09:30 PM

Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!
 
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This is the time slip.


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