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SDT1DYI 12-17-2022 06:26 PM

Re: NHRA hp updates
 
Nothing more disharting than doing the work and one did not slow the car down to what one was looking for.
Seriously, theres got to be a better way to have a level playing field for fast and not so fast cars.
Making fast cars run Slow is not the answer.

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620

Billy Nees 12-17-2022 06:55 PM

Re: NHRA hp updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SDT1DYI (Post 672463)
Nothing more disharting than doing the work and one did not slow the car down to what one was looking for.
Seriously, theres got to be a better way to have a level playing field for fast and not so fast cars.
Making fast cars run Slow is not the answer.

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620

Well, let's see; NHRA could hire some new Techs that know what a "stock" cylinder head is supposed to look like kinda like the old, retired Techs did. They could stop manipulating the engine specs that now allow Edelbrock and other aftermarket heads and camshafts and intake manifolds that were "originally available on cars only sold to unicorns in La-La Land" and they could stop gluing the starting lines.
That would work!

B Parker 12-17-2022 10:21 PM

Re: NHRA hp updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 672439)
Not financially. It will just push/keep more out.

Billy can you find me a cheap 1970/ 402 that I can run only .65 under to help get my average down. Thanks BP

Mike Gray 12-17-2022 11:55 PM

Re: NHRA hp updates
 
If I can’t run more than .65 under when I get my first stocker finished do you think I could get the fast cars to put up my entry fees to keep the average down? Lol

Larry Hill 12-18-2022 08:57 AM

Re: NHRA hp updates
 
If you can’t run at least -.650 under at a race it will have zero affect on the average. It will be like you were never at the race according to the AHFS.

SDT1DYI 12-18-2022 10:42 AM

Re: NHRA hp updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 672484)
If you can’t run at least -.650 under at a race it will have zero affect on the average. It will be like you were never at the race according to the AHFS.


Exactly. I may stop on the BB car and throw in the slow parts on the refresh SB to run .750
Sounds fun.

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620

Mike Gray 12-18-2022 11:05 AM

Re: NHRA hp updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 672484)
If you can’t run at least -.650 under at a race it will have zero affect on the average. It will be like you were never at the race according to the AHFS.

Oh, okay I’m catching on to the new AHFS if I run BETWEEN .650 - .850 under they will like me and over .850 under and they will send me hate mail. Do I understand this correctly that my combo in B can affect other cars from AA - C because it’s in the same engine family even though the engine specs may be different, like different heads and valve sizes? I must have skimmed over the paragraph below too quickly.

“1st screening: The average for all vehicles running the particular engine family combination being reviewed is included in this screening. The review process will average runs in ALL classes TOGETHER with the same transmission type & the same body platform.”

Tom Meyer 12-18-2022 01:45 PM

Re: NHRA hp updates
 
Assuming transmission means auto or manual? I was going to sort out my SS combo with my trusty PG vers a three speed that some say are 15 quicker. But I still could take the hp hit. Now what about wagons, is a chevy II wagon going to be the same platform as a 2dr ht? Is the malibu wagon the same as 2 door car. Tom

Billy Nees 12-18-2022 01:50 PM

Re: NHRA hp updates
 
Tom, I'm pretty sure that they go by wheelbase. If the hardtop and wagon have the same wheelbase then they're considered the same.

mnmaxwedge 12-18-2022 07:02 PM

Re: NHRA hp updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 672464)
Well, let's see; NHRA could hire some new Techs that know what a "stock" cylinder head is supposed to look like kinda like the old, retired Techs did. They could stop manipulating the engine specs that now allow Edelbrock and other aftermarket heads and camshafts and intake manifolds that were "originally available on cars only sold to unicorns in La-La Land" and they could stop gluing the starting lines.
That would work!

That would require them to find qualified people which they surely won't do. A better solution on their part is to run Stock and Super Stock like Super Gas cars. You could only run your published index, any faster you lose. No dial unders or heads up! Wouldn't it be fun to see Stock and Super Stock cars with timers and throttle stops. It would save NHRA the trouble of switching back to a full tree after the SG/SC cars run.


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