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Mike Gray 12-27-2022 01:58 AM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
No, no and no!
I left super gas racing to get away from delay boxes and throttle stops slowing everyone down to 9.90. Pro Tree and Instant Green would be a mess using handicap starts. At least in the .90 category the cars leave together on the tree. I hated sitting against the converter when we had a slow tree. From the drivers seat waiting for a little over a second seems like an eternity. Imagine running your A or B stock car against a 14 or 15 second car, what are you going to do sit against the converter that long or try to anticipate the difference? The fans in the stands aren’t going to like it either. I like watching the countdown from the stands it gives you the perspective of the difference between the cars, something that you will lose with a pro tree style handicap start.

dartman 12-27-2022 02:34 AM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Albert Lee (Post 672983)
There's a difference between instant green and a pro tree.

Al Corda

There is no yellow lights. You stage your car and the next light you see is green

tavirace 12-27-2022 07:55 AM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
Seattle in the early eighties was .5 pro light with no deep staging but you had to roll in some.The best I could cut with a 12 second car averaged about .620. You need to have the front end tight with no lift, the car has to go straight ahead immediately. Most cars will wind up with as small a front tires as possible, 13 " is legal, they'll be there. The lightest cars will dominate some combinations will become extinct when in comes to dial in racing and forget about stick shifts, there's a reason there are virtually none in .90 classes.But for heads up runs where both cars are similiar and no dial ins it might be O.K.

Larry Hill 12-27-2022 08:03 AM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
What is the opposite of a delay box, ‘cause that’s what I will need.

Billy Nees 12-27-2022 08:41 AM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 673021)
What is the opposite of a delay box, ‘cause that’s what I will need.

Cattle prod?

tstickff 12-27-2022 09:04 AM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 673017)
Complaining about “3 full pages” on the second page? Ha!

How many pages is it at? Ha!

Rory McNeil 12-27-2022 10:59 AM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tavirace (Post 673020)
Seattle in the early eighties was .5 pro light with no deep staging but you had to roll in some.The best I could cut with a 12 second car averaged about .620. You need to have the front end tight with no lift, the car has to go straight ahead immediately. Most cars will wind up with as small a front tires as possible, 13 " is legal, they'll be there. The lightest cars will dominate some combinations will become extinct when in comes to dial in racing and forget about stick shifts, there's a reason there are virtually none in .90 classes.But for heads up runs where both cars are similiar and no dial ins it might be O.K.

I remember that instant green fiasco at Seattle, having a heavy 12 second 4 speed street/strip car, I absolutely hated it, and I seem to recall they used it for only a short period of time, less than a year, I believe. I am not positive, back I think that may have been when a full tree was still using 5 amber lights on the tree. Quite a change, that I doubt anybody liked.

Dale Hulquist 12-27-2022 11:21 AM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
What exactly is this instant green supposed to accomplish, If your blocking it's instant yellow now. Just pick a bulb and leave on it ?

tstickff 12-27-2022 11:38 AM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
Maybe we can get the guy from Pinks all out to do arm drops for stock and super stock!

Ernie Neal 12-27-2022 12:17 PM

Re: A Instant Green for Super Stock
 
I could see an experienced blinder driver, that is already tough, being just as tough at night now. There would be no amber light bleed over. The guys not doing this would be even further behind, ie. the learning curve to get your car moving as quick as possible. I agree, that the lighter cars will have an advantage as well.

Ernie Neal
SS 354

PS; I kinda liked the idea at first until I thought about the outcome


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