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Sry I wrote a book, but my prior post was what I would like to see, then read the rule as it was during Indy 2023, and looked at prior posts in the thread, and just based that latest on the rule as it exists, and it seems people just did what they were required to do by the rule.

Just my thought. If I am posting the money, I am saying you are illegal. I want to watch everything and verify up close.

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Originally Posted by Capri (Post 686149)

Just my thought. If I am posting the money, I am saying you are illegal. I want to watch everything and verify up close.

That's not the way it works. Posting the money and saying that a Racer is illegal doesn't buy you the right to look at his stuff. The Tech inspectors are supposed to be arbitrary.

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Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 686053)

I agree. I do think some of the protests are just to aggravate the other racer. As a person that has gone through numerous teardowns for free, I would be happy to get paid.

One thing of note here. NHRA is not supporting their own governance when it comes to teardown.

This lands squarely on the non racer bean counter mentality of NHRA leadership.

It is possible that we see a few more protests only because some competitors know NHRA will not impose teardown and the incentive to set records is greatly reduced.

I predict that NHRA won’t want to do protest teardowns either so they will suppress this with a rule change.

Soon, the only tech allowed by leadership will be akin to handing out parking tickets and fines In the staging lanes.

There is no succession planning for the tech crews at a divisional level when it comes to stock and Superstock. The capable crews they have are stifled by poor management at NHRA. On top of that, at some point they will retire with no trained replacements.

If we at least had the significant teardowns at Indy and some random teardown light events, there would be more compliance overall.

Once again, Mr. Schaechter absolutely nails it, to the point where the "Like" button doesn't do it justice.

I have been taken apart myself with nothing more than hand tools. My fastest tool was my spinner, now with electric impact tools taking a head off a car is a snap. I'm surprised that there aren't more tear downs since the process is so much faster with the improved tooling.
Just my look at it.
Casey Miles
248H Stock

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Originally Posted by Capri (Post 686149)

Just my thought. If I am posting the money, I am saying you are illegal. I want to watch everything and verify up close.

Yeah let the competition review all that you have, not…besides having money to protest doesn’t qualify a person to know anything about another’s legality

When Mike Rice became Div. Dir. (Now has been promote) we had
a Drivers meet (About 10 years ago or so) where he told us he did not
want to entertain any protests from fellow racers.

I was surprised = I believe that now that has changed for the better
as I believe it is important.

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Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 686164)

Yeah let the competition review all that you have, not…besides having money to protest doesn’t qualify a person to know anything about another’s legality

So then someone shouldnt have been camped out looking at our stuff after protesting then. And yes, it does. If I put up the dough, and you are bounced, I absolutely should know, and know why.

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 686150)

That's not the way it works. Posting the money and saying that a Racer is illegal doesn't buy you the right to look at his stuff. The Tech inspectors are supposed to be arbitrary.

SUPPOSED to be is correct.

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Originally Posted by Capri (Post 686171)

So then someone shouldnt have been camped out looking at our stuff after protesting then. And yes, it does. If I put up the dough, and you are bounced, I absolutely should know, and know why.

Tony,

No one should have been camped out on your space for sure.

You might be qualified, but having money doesn’t give the qualification to determine legality. Maybe you mean the right to view but I don’t agree that anyone but the tech team should see the protested Racecar.

If you really just want to know the outcome, that is a different ask altogether. I don’t know if tech says what the infraction is if there is one. Maybe the protester gets that on the spot? Of course they publish it at their leisure.