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RonP 08-04-2024 05:09 PM

Re: Header building
 
Try KromerKraft in Girard, OH,...a suburb of Youngstown. Kromer has been building headers since the early 1990's for all sorts of NHRA class racecars.

Signman 08-05-2024 10:20 AM

Re: Header building
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 700892)
equal length in our cars, cars with the firewall in the stock location, stock frame rails, etc. means sacrificing fit, ease of installation, spark plug access, ground clearance and in some cars, having to remove and or cutting the inner fender wells all for nothing on the time slip.




There are many who will repeat this concept that headers don't mean anything on the time slip. It depends as always.

Had a decent set of headers we made then had a custom set made for the engine combo picked up several MPH and decent amount of ET back to back.

Friend of mine went from a set of box headers to burns stainless design and set of their collectors picked up good amount of ET and a few MPH.
They were told clocking the primary tubes was more important than equal length plus avoiding sharp/tight turns was also.



Depending on how far out to lunch your present set is you could pick up a lot!

1320racer 08-05-2024 10:55 AM

Re: Header building
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Signman (Post 700997)
There are many who will repeat this concept that headers don't mean anything on the time slip.

Not my words, YOURS! Further, the right size primary tubes is EVERYTHING and many have tubes that are too big for optimum performance.

Billy Nees 08-05-2024 11:31 AM

Re: Header building
 
Just in case anybody is wondering why I don't post much anymore!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKKdTlvZ5kI&t=45s

L.Fite 08-05-2024 05:25 PM

Re: Header building
 
Bizaar....

Frank Castros 08-05-2024 07:37 PM

Re: Header building
 
Billy, This forum will always be great as long as Ken is in charge. However with that being said, without you it will never be the same. Who's going to keep everyone in line?
You're kind of like the Sargent at Arms.

Signman 08-06-2024 09:41 AM

Re: Header building
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 700999)
Not my words, YOURS! Further, the right size primary tubes is EVERYTHING and many have tubes that are too big for optimum performance.


Getting defensive????

Think we should call you ground strap you're always negative.... :D

The statement has been made to me by racers who are way more knowledgeable and talented in the shop and on track. When offering my experience they listen simply because there is also the theory behind the result. If all you have done is try box headers your experiences are limited extremely.


Your talking like the 90s here with the "bigger the tube the better". LOL!
That was disproven 20 years ago. Everyone knows this.


With all your criticism here of everyone how abut some theory behind the poorly presented comments that contribute nothing. You just shout this is how you do it "I know everything" nothing more no reasoning theory science or engineering. Many of us know "you've always been a trick of the week racer". Just like a blind squirrel.....


What is your theory on header design? Please expand professor..... LOL!

1320racer 08-06-2024 09:43 AM

Re: Header building
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Signman (Post 701053)
The statement has been made to me by racers who are way more knowledgeable and talented in the shop and on track.

everyone is more knowledgeable and talented than you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Signman (Post 701053)
Your talking like the 90s here with the "bigger the tube the better". LOL!
That was disproven 20 years ago. Everyone knows this.

Jere Stahl didn't know that 20 years ago. We had a 1 hour conversation one night about my car and he couldn't wrap his head around the fact that my 468 in my 3900 lb. Chevelle made the power it did and ran the ET/MPH it did with 1 3/4" primary tubes! :p

Andy Friar 08-06-2024 02:04 PM

Re: Header building
 
Good looking headers, thanks Chad

littlemanjoe 08-06-2024 03:24 PM

Re: Header building
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 700878)
Kromer Kraft Headers

I will check with him.
Thanks,
Mike


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