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Dawson and I had a conversation yesterday about this. he said that it came up on his FB feed. i said that i did not see it on face book. he said, Dad you dont have face book. i said, ding ding ding we have a winner.

i am still trying to figure out how this affects him in any way. live and let live man.

ep- great insight Alecia.

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Originally Posted by goinbroke2 (Post 706927)

Everyone has focused on the sex side of it. Here's a different prospective that I learned.
I was going to open a micro distillery, I built my first still when I was 14 and have ran a still up until a few years ago as I pretty much gave up drinking. However, when I made it and people tasted it and said I should go into business so I did research. Very long and expensive journey later I learned "it's not about your product, it's about marketing".

An instructor (master distiller) asked a guy in class "you sell this?" when the answer was yes he asked "ever sell someone a second bottle"?

In other words, if you have good marketing, you product (liquor or racing or roofing) isn't as important, stuff will sell with the right marketing.

Thank you goinbroke, you get it

Mark, Alicia

You guys completely overlooked the point of my post. While yes, I do believe selling yourself and having a pornography site as you main sources of income is, at the very least, unbecoming, that's not the point I was trying to make. I only mentioned the porn because I found it interesting and trashy.

The point I was trying to make, which is the second to last paragraph before the "FYI" is that I'm sick of seeing all the talent that exists in class racing overlooked in favor of a pretty face. I race against the best racers in the country week in and week out, folks that deserve to have the spotlight, that are talented and have dedicated there lives to the craft. People that have not created a fake internet following by paying meta to boost their social media posts. That's why I added her draginsights data for reference. At the end of the day, everybodies got to make a living, do what you have to do, but don't sponsor posts that show up in my FB feed and pretend your some great racer because you have a lot of sponsorships. You aren't, and I have the receipts.

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Originally Posted by Alicia (Post 706924)

Dawson, you know I love your online presence and super appreciate the DragInsights shout-out as well as your ongoing support.

The days when racers could only make money in the sport by leveraging their race success are over. Hell I turned a completely mediocre and short racing career into a business. :)

Hugs!

You are absolutely right, and that devastates me. That's all this thread was about from the beginning. I could give a **** how she gets her money, but I do care about how she represents the sport I'm so passionate about.

[QUOTE=JP1738;70693] I'm sick of seeing all the talent that exists in class racing overlooked in favor of a pretty face.

Ya know Dawson, about a million years ago when Jeff Gordon was just coming up he had an interview (you could probably find it) in which he said something to the effect of "I'm not the best driver out there, the best drivers never get found. I was just lucky."

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Originally Posted by SpeierRacing (Post 706896)

OK, update to my opinion.

I was telling my wife about it and she said I better do some research because they changed the platform.. As of Oct 2021, they do not allow sexual explicit material.

"OnlyFans remains committed to the highest levels of safety and content moderation of any social platform. All creators are verified prior to being able to upload any content to OnlyFans, and all uploaded content is checked by automated systems and human moderators."

BTW. My original opinion came from a situation we had about 5 years ago with a friend of my oldest daughter. She had a page and it was full of nudes. She was 18. We as parents were a little alarmed about it. Glad to see the platform has changed!

BTW2. She also told me she was thinking about selling sexy photos to buy a Benz. I said do it but you will be using that money for rent. :) :)

I?m not sure how you came to this conclusion with your research. Onlyfans certainly does allow nudes. Your original opinion was spot on

Marketing Partners in all of Motorsports today, care about social media presence first and foremost and anything else a distant second.

I say good for her, use whatever advantage you have to get sponsors.

Sponsors do not necessarily revolve around winning race. It's all about exposure for the sponsor. Kenny Bernstein once said about his Budweiser King FC, I may or may not win the race but the fans and sponsors will definitely will remember that we were here. It all about presence. jmho
Dan Foley
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She’s also not the first class racer to bring sex and pornography as a sponsor.

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Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 70693)

I'm sick of seeing all the talent that exists in class racing overlooked in favor of a pretty face.

Ya know Dawson, about a million years ago when Jeff Gordon was just coming up he had an interview (you could probably find it) in which he said something to the effect of "I'm not the best driver out there, the best drivers never get found. I was just lucky."

During the time I was active, I looked at hundreds - maybe thousands - of computer graphs. I could instantly see who was never going to be a winner and who had skills above all. One amazing graph I saw back in the 4 speed days was a driver who was over/under the shift points for all 3 changes by less than 20 rpm. Yes, that's adding them all together.

I can think of at least 3 drivers who were at the very top in skill but things never fell into place for them to truly fund their program. And a larger number than that with stout sponsorship deals that made me wonder how that happened.

Going back years, it's been that way even though you're noticing it now. I'm not going to spend the time to give a lot of thought to it, but offhand I'm having a problem thinking of many drivers/teams who made it to the big time simply by being really good at racing. Sad but true.

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 706939)

She?s also not the first class racer to bring sex and pornography as a sponsor.

Paul Cambria comes immediately to mind. Had Hustler Magazine in pink on the quarter of his wife's black COPO. Didn't he represent Flynt at one point?