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JGrossijr 05-01-2025 01:39 PM

Re: ATTN SRAC members- Beam Breakers in STK & SS - Legal or
 
In my opinion and experience there are often different dimensions to rules.

For example
  • Rules as written
  • Rules as interpreted
  • Rules as enforced
I think this particular rule needs some added clarity for Stock and Super Stock. Most importantly I'd like to know how the ruling will be enforced, and that it will be enforced the same for everyone everywhere. That's why I posted the request here in a public forum rather than making a private call to any individual NHRA representative.
We have a Sportsman Racer Advisory Council (SRAC) comprised of 1 Stock or Super Stock rep from each division, plus an NHRA Division Director and technical representative. The stated purpose of the SRAC is to provide a means for discussing and evaluating rules and regulations pertaining to Sportsman racing at NHRA events. IMO This request is perfectly suited for their scope of work.
I don't know that we need to fight for anything, but think it's a good idea to express opinions to our reps so they can best represent our collective interests.

James Perrone 05-01-2025 02:22 PM

Re: ATTN SRAC members- Beam Breakers in STK & SS - Legal or
 
This is legal WtF.
This ain?t bracket racing or street outlaws
If you want this, you need to buy a third generation or fourth generation, Camaro or Firebird
And hit the brakes real hard
I mean, the poor guys only got four cylinders. Go get four more spark plugs.
IF MY COMPITION HAS THIS IM TRASHING IT IN THE STAGING LANES
TRY ME PLEASE

B Parker 05-01-2025 04:19 PM

Re: ATTN SRAC members- Beam Breakers in STK & SS - Legal or
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 712006)
This is legal WtF.
This ain?t bracket racing or street outlaws
If you want this, you need to buy a third generation or fourth generation, Camaro or Firebird
And hit the brakes real hard
I mean, the poor guys only got four cylinders. Go get four more spark plugs.
IF MY COMPITION HAS THIS IM TRASHING IT IN THE STAGING LANES
TRY ME PLEASE

Coming to a track near you!!!! Have to love yah James

1700camaro 05-01-2025 04:53 PM

Re: ATTN SRAC members- Beam Breakers in STK & SS - Legal or
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 711944)
I guess my good friend Toby Lang was correct when he told me 25 years ago that we are ( ) Racing 99 percent of the time ?..

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 712006)
This is legal WtF.
This ain?t bracket racing or street outlaws
If you want this, you need to buy a third generation or fourth generation, Camaro or Firebird
And hit the brakes real hard
I mean, the poor guys only got four cylinders. Go get four more spark plugs.
IF MY COMPITION HAS THIS IM TRASHING IT IN THE STAGING LANES
TRY ME PLEASE

Like it or not, you're bracket racing the majority of time!

As for your last capitalized sentence. If acted on, would be Staging Lane Rage!

This whole Beam Breaker Topic(s) have been entertaining till James last comment. There's a proper way to handle the situation & Staging Lane Rage is unacceptable to a 4-cylinder guy or any other racer!

1700/STY/781L :)

Marty Rinehart Jr 05-02-2025 03:12 PM

Re: ATTN SRAC members- Beam Breakers in STK & SS - Legal or
 
They are ILLEGAL!

Larry Hill 05-03-2025 09:13 AM

Re: ATTN SRAC members- Beam Breakers in STK & SS - Legal or
 
It would be kool if the strip taker was spring loaded in the up position and was deployed to the locked position on the automatic 1-2 shift.
I really think a race car is like a spouse, look all you want just do not touch.

1700camaro 05-03-2025 09:59 AM

Re: ATTN SRAC members- Beam Breakers in STK & SS - Legal or
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 712062)
It would be kool if the strip taker was spring loaded in the up position and was deployed to the locked position on the automatic 1-2 shift.
I really think a race car is like a spouse, look all you want just do not touch.

I alluded to something similar in another thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1700camaro (Post 712003)
We had one on our bracket Camaro & need to put it on the new front-end. It was there for a couple reasons & maybe more.

The way I had the car set-up I had the option of tripping the finish line with the beam breaker or the front tires.

I need to get another one made for the car. This time I will have it electronically controlled to stow it away for loading or other options.

As you can somewhat see both cars were equipped with one in the pic.

1700/STY/781L :)

https://i.imgur.com/sh8Mqkv.jpeg


Joseph Lily 05-03-2025 03:57 PM

Re: ATTN SRAC members- Beam Breakers in STK & SS - Legal or
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JGrossijr (Post 712005)
In my opinion and experience there are often different dimensions to rules.

For example
  • Rules as written
  • Rules as interpreted
  • Rules as enforced

This thread is certainly the pot calling the kettle black.

The rules as written:
Body: Alterations or customizing prohibited; extent of customizing
is limited to paint only

Rules as interpreted:
I have a 1970 and up corvette body, I think I'll stick a '69 nose on it and call it a 1969. Close enough

Rules as enforced:
Tech not only turns there head but Joe Costello does a segment and no one said a word.

I'll give you its a nice SS/GT car but according to the rules, illegal. The rear fenders need to be for the year claimed. You could say you flared the rear wheel wells but according to the rules that is illegal.

https://www.speednik.com/files/2025/...-48_864321.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4a/8b/42/4...287d3e7628.jpg

For the non corvette affficianados, '68 and '69 have no rear fender flares, 1970-'73 have the flares and chrome bumper in rear still. Take note as very easy to decipher looking behind the rear tire. No mudflaps needed on a 70 up vette. Orange corvette is a '70-'73 body with '68-'69 nose hung on it.

Stripe taker is a misdeamenor compared to this blatant violation attempt. And nobody says a word. Clearly a bracket race at this point. BTW, where is Ed?????

JP1738 05-05-2025 04:18 PM

Re: ATTN SRAC members- Beam Breakers in STK & SS - Legal or
 
Just so everyone is aware, my pecker extender was quickly and unequivocally disqualified and I was asked to remove it upon investigation. I had a rules official come by my pit area at Carolina Dragway this past weekend before I ever made a pass to see it for himself. He asked to remain nameless but said that my modification or any of it's kind, for its purpose, mounted to anything (bumper, radiator support, K-member) would not be legal. He said that he would convene with other rules officials to get a more clear ruling. Since then, I have received an email from SRAC member Mike Crutchfield asking for votes and opinions on beam breakers legality.

I would consider my hack job a success and this matter should be concluded shortly.

1700camaro 05-06-2025 06:42 PM

Re: ATTN SRAC members- Beam Breakers in STK & SS - Legal or
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph Lily (Post 712071)
BTW, where is Ed?????

https://i.imgur.com/wExeJt1.png

1700/STY/781L :)


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