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Tony Corley 06-08-2025 09:53 AM
Re: Rules Verification for a Newbie
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 713170)
Wesley Roberson is working more events and training some of the new tech officials.

Pretty refreshing to see some checks going on again.

I agree, I would not expect a full on teardown at a points meet, but check the obvious safety stuff.

4 cars were booted due to loose ballast at sgmp race 1. They all fixed it and raced in race 2

They later checked some carbs and head casting numbers and rocker arms for stockers.

They also checked me for a clutchless.

They checked wheelbase on some SS cars.

Great way to tighten things up and get some training done.

I would look for more of this.

I heard there were checks at the Earlville Iowa race as well
And anyone that knows me, knows that my luck is the type that I would show up at the 1st race, get checked and disqualified. I'll sleep better knowing what I have, lol

ken robinson 06-08-2025 11:55 AM
Re: Rules Verification for a Newbie
 
The only thing I learned from a friend who runs a Ford SB is you need a really good pin for the cam timing gear .

pmrphil 06-08-2025 12:12 PM
Re: Rules Verification for a Newbie
 
It needs to be a GOOD quality bolt, torqued correctly. Most of the good cams already have a larger (7/16) bolt requirement.
The dowel does not keep the gear from moving, clamp force does.

BRETV 06-08-2025 12:48 PM
Re: Rules Verification for a Newbie
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Corley (Post 713174)
I appreciate your opinion, and in different circumstances would be inclined to agree with you. I'm not spending much money to freshen it. Just the aforementioned parts, so a couple thousand at most. (cheaper than building a new engine if this one comes apart for something maintenance could have prevented) Labor and machine work are free. I already have all brand new suspension parts sitting here that I had bought for another project , so no wait time there. And I still have a few weeks down time anyway, waiting on my back to heal.
Tony, you don't owe anyone an explanation of what you wanna do to your race car. Do what you feel needs to be done. I would go thru a car I just bought too, just to see what I have. Sorry to hear about your cancer, my best friend was diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer 5 years ago, still going strong today. I will be praying for you. Good luck with car. I'm glad it's a Ford!! LOL




Bret Velde
2003 I/SA

Tony Corley 06-08-2025 12:50 PM
Re: Rules Verification for a Newbie
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pmrphil (Post 713181)
It needs to be a GOOD quality bolt, torqued correctly. Most of the good cams already have a larger (7/16) bolt requirement.
The dowel does not keep the gear from moving, clamp force does.
I?ve got a new Jesel belt drive sitting on the shelf from a past project. Should be fine😁

Sean Marconette 06-09-2025 01:04 AM
Re: Rules Verification for a Newbie
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 713170)
Wesley Roberson is working more events and training some of the new tech officials.

Pretty refreshing to see some checks going on again.

I agree, I would not expect a full on teardown at a points meet, but check the obvious safety stuff.

4 cars were booted due to loose ballast at sgmp race 1. They all fixed it and raced in race 2

They later checked some carbs and head casting numbers and rocker arms for stockers.

They also checked me for a clutchless.

They checked wheelbase on some SS cars.

Great way to tighten things up and get some training done.

I would look for more of this.

I heard there were checks at the Earlville Iowa race as well
I was one of the cars that was looked at at the National Open at Earlville, and I was #2 qualifier for both races that weekend. Anyone racing Stock or SS this is what we signed up for. If that means taking it apart to check its legal then you better make sure its legal, and be ready if asked. We need more checks that what we are racing is per the rules. Otherwise go bracket race. I agree with Jim, we need more tech checking cars.


Suggesting the guy that bought someone elses car is legal, and not checking it seems risky to me. The lack of a rear firewall would be one of the items I would take another look at on your car.

Sean

Tony Corley 06-09-2025 05:39 AM
Re: Rules Verification for a Newbie
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRETV (Post 713182)
Tony, you don't owe anyone an explanation of what you wanna do to your race car. Do what you feel needs to be done. I would go thru a car I just bought too, just to see what I have. Sorry to hear about your cancer, my best friend was diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer 5 years ago, still going strong today. I will be praying for you. Good luck with car. I'm glad it's a Ford!! LOL




Bret Velde
2003 I/SA
Thank you Brett. I appreciate the kind words of encouragement. And that’s great to hear that your friend is doing so well. That’s my goal, but either way , I’m going to enjoy the ride as long as I can��

Tony Corley 06-09-2025 05:49 AM
Re: Rules Verification for a Newbie
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Marconette (Post 713193)
I was one of the cars that was looked at at the National Open at Earlville, and I was #2 qualifier for both races that weekend. Anyone racing Stock or SS this is what we signed up for. If that means taking it apart to check its legal then you better make sure its legal, and be ready if asked. We need more checks that what we are racing is per the rules. Otherwise go bracket race. I agree with Jim, we need more tech checking cars.


Suggesting the guy that bought someone elses car is legal, and not checking it seems risky to me. The lack of a rear firewall would be one of the items I would take another look at on your car.

Sean
Sean, it actually does have a firewall. The cell is recessed into the spare tire area, and it has an aluminum cover that Dzus fastens over the top of the wheel well, covering it completely. So no issues there. But there are some things I see that I know are not legal. Like it has an electric vacuum pump connected to the valve covers. I also am not certain that the current rods are listed in the legal replacements. ( Because truthfully, I’m not certain what they are). The build sheet part numbers don’t match anything I know of. And I want to CC the heads and make certain they’re legal. I don’t think the car was built illegal, but there have been rules changes since 2014, and this car had been caught in a time warp. It’s been sitting for the most part. I have to learn how NHRA polices the Stock and Super Stock cars, but I will rest easier knowing that every thing is up to date and legal. Thanks for the observations.

Billy Nees 06-09-2025 07:30 AM
Re: Rules Verification for a Newbie
 
I hope that after you get it apart that you can find enough parts to get it back together in a timely fashion.

Tony Corley 06-09-2025 09:18 AM
Re: Rules Verification for a Newbie
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 713198)
I hope that after you get it apart that you can find enough parts to get it back together in a timely fashion.
I should have most of it already on the shelf. I?ve been messing with these sbf a long time. I have stacks of new coated bearings, gaskets, new (legal) rods, etc. I already have a set of the valve springs they have listed as being in it. The only thing I don?t have is piston rings, because I need to see what it has now. I also have a brand new ?68 based 302 shortblock sitting here that I was already building when I bought the car. New Boss block, Eagle crank(again the legal one, took me 2 years to find it lol). Good rods and pistons, just no heads yet. Looking for a set of the NHRA legal aluminum castings that aren?t made anymore. I was going to build a car, then this one showed up. So again, not really concerned about getting it back together. This thread got so far off track , lol. I just wanted to know if the carb had to have the exact casting number as listed, or as long as it was the same type, venture size and throttle size, would it be legal, lol


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