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I figured that's who he was talking about, but I wasn't 100% sure. I remember the first time I saw their car many years ago I thought the same thing until I looked under the hood. They went Comp racing, didn't they?

As for Big Block vs. Small Block / High MPH vs. Low MPH, yes, you CAN be competitive with a slow car. But please, I wasn't born yesterday. Everyone in the .90 categories haven't gone faster and faster over the years just because they like to spend more money and run a 90 at a higher speed. Every good driver knows that it's easier to chase, and that there's an advantage to being the faster car at the top end (to a point - obviously that advantage goes out the window to a certain extent if its a close race and you're running against somebody that's 30+ mph slower than you).

If that's not the case then I challenge all of you to either move up to the fastest class that your car can currently run (I should be running S/G at 138 mph), or better yet, sell your expensive big power motors and build a near stock 454, pocket the extra cash, and go out and be competitive.

I don't think I'll get many takers...

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Super Street 130mph????? some of you just need to get your shyt boxs to run faster or shut up.

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Okay, so maybe I won't be the only one out there under 160 mph. I assume the DRAW sheet mentioned is a full list of everyone's 1st round, or qualifying passes, available for purchase? Is this only at Nationals, or also at divisional events? Sorry for the simple questions, but I haven't run a national since 1993 or a divisional since early 1994!

Thanks,

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Take it easy Junior....not all of us can afford a dry sumped 600 inch Ford.....

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Now 600 cid dry-sumped Chevys are another story!

Who the hell is this Jr. guy anyway, and what the hell does he know???

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Trust us Jason - he knows!!
Every seen the car sponsored by Rug Doctor? That's him!!
But really Jeff - a Ford?? I could see my BB Chevy stuffed under that car - I do so love those mustangs!!

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Lynn....We all have our down falls....lol


CBSsr....come on 600inchs

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Nope, never heard of him. Another loser hiding behind a screen name...

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Jason,

RELAX!!! He is a good dude, he likes to break balls and has more Wallys then i have hair on my head (that's not saying much) O.K> hair on my back! (Now that's saying something).

Your a little off base on this one!


Do I need to remind you about the conversation about not being so tense?

p.s. my small block goes 141!

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Jason,

If my memory serves me correctly you could probaly look back in your stack of National Dragsters & find a picture of his car on the cover.

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I'll save others some time. Hey Jason, Bill Hanes builds some pretty stout "big" small blocks. I think his Vette was a 454?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...r/DSC_0393.jpg

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HEY .... thats my dad in that picture CBSsr.......


Dad... thats the picture i sent you..lol

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Jeff,
Is your number 643 or 6143 (or something else I can't quite make out in the picture)? Mine is 643! I inherited the number from Don Cliver, who I bought my original rolling chassis from. We're practically neighbors (I live in Happy Valley). I think I was just getting out of the divisional/national scene when you were getting going in it (I remember the name and car). I ran the "Student Driver" Vega in S/G.

Jason,
IIRC, Jeff is the poster child for high mph, running around 150 mph in S/ST (and winning lots of races doing it).

Regards,

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Yawn. Next you're going to tell me that his dad broke a limb right before the last race, and that he's such an outlaw that he got banned from his home track.

Wow. I'm impressed.

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Must be an inside joke? Sorry, I'm new here (or slow, or both)!

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I still think that for the spectator we just need to do away with the timer thats all. But that will never happen because there is to many engine builders that would no longer be building 1000 hp engines that support nhra, nobody would need them. It would be heads up racing again where it started and got out of hand. Thats just what i think and always have. The throttle stops would still work with no problems just no mph
thanks...........clarence woodham
2783s/st 2783s/g 2783stk AND BY THE WAY I HAVE A TIMER

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I posted a poll in this forum, asking what you would do if NHRA banned timers in .90 racing. I'll be curious to see what the results are.

Regards,

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Everyone keeps talking about changing the class to make it easier for the spectator to understand. What ever happened to the class being for the racer? I don't know about you, but I can't see much of the spectator's $10 entry fee going much farther than into the track owners' pocket. At least I know that a percentage of my entry fee will be paid back to the racers. And the racer is who the classes should satisfy.
If the number of spectators is dwindling, it's not because they can't understand the .90 classes. It's because they've finally realized that drag racing is relatively inexpensive and they're on the other side of the staging lanes now racing their own cars.
I've always said that in stock car racing there are a bunch of people in the stands watching a few cars on the track. In drag racing, there's a few people in the stands watching a bunch of cars race.

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I,m just glad I can race, period. Hate to be the kid looking thru the window.

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This may not be politically correct, but I couldn't care less about the spectator in the stands understanding what it takes to go .900 and win. Comp is the same way. When you've spent the last 2 hours watching the pros, a bunch of 9 second dragsters doesn't exactly hold the average spectator's attention. There are too many super class racers for NHRA to just abandon them, although it wouldn't surprise me if they did. I would rather see TD be a 6.80 to 7.20 open bracket race which gets rid of the throttle stops (ban them in the class) and still have fast enough cars handicapped somewhat closely together. I think a lot of .90 racers would be interested in that format. Just my .02 cents.

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if you don't want to run a timer....change classes......

we are going to super stock this year....to see if we like it....although we will still run super gas....

CBS

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Way to tell them CBSsr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For you CHALLENGED racers that dont like super class racing for what it is go find a class that fits your idea of racing and DONT try to change it for the thousands that LIKE it.

Its real EASY for you challenged people WEIGHT and ET ( 8.90-9.90- 10.90 ).

Like I said before if some people had there own rules and class they still couldn't win. Then what else would they like to change.

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I love the way you sugarcoat things. Glad you dont say what you really mean.

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Lol! :d

Hey! How come my smiley faces don't work anymore??? And every time I try to capitalize LOL it uncapitalizes the O and the second L...Bastages...

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You are such a FRUIT CUP...........oh look it stayed capitalized.

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Im not trying to change anything. I think i can race fine just like it is . Im just saying that the timer took the heads up racing out. NoT the throttle stop maby its just me. Sorry

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One thing about Forums you can tell the ones that road the short bus to school.

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That's some funny stuff!

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the moderator limited your keyboard Jason........

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lmao...

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How do you identify them? By whether they spell rode correctly? ;)

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Mike.... I'll let my racing record speak for its self thats more then you can say. lol

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Sure, hide behind your wall of Wallys ;)

I won a few rounds in my days of .90 racing, and I've got a Wally from the days when you only got one for winning a divisional championship or a national. Out of 5 years of part-time racing on a college kid's budget, I could have done much worse.

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No need to hide. Just having some fun.

It's funny how some people like thing to change but their not willing to change with the times.

Mike ...DONT forget your diaper.

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I just want to race my old class without spending a bunch of money! I don't mind shelling out a few hundred for the diaper (one of those would have saved me a bunch of money back in 1988), but I know I can't afford a big inch motor right now. I know the class isn't going to change, I just wanted to see how people felt about the "old way" versus the way most people race now. Honestly I thought it was kind of cool when Terry Sullivan started running high mph in S/G, but I never thought it would get to the 175+ mph scene we have today.

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At my age a diaper isn't a laughing matter

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Join the club!! Image the thoughts when they said they were checking for diapers!!!!!

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Mike....I don't know where you get your score card.....but the amount of competitive 175 mph super gas cars in the country is less than 5 I bet....most cars run 155 to 165....

CBS

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You're going to limit it to COMPETITIVE cars? ;)

I've seen at least one competitive 170+ mph car around here (Mike Ferderer), and several more who were faster but maybe less than competitive ;)

Just having watched without keeping specific track, I would guess that most of the cars around here are slightly slower (145-155 mph) with a few more in the 160-165 mph range. But there is always the possibility of drawing one of those 175 mph cars!

Regards,

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You plan on making it to 2 round??