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Chris Hill 09-03-2009 09:01 AM

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I believe what has happened is this. An account can only have XXX (don't know how many) amount of views, and it appears Mom's account has exceeded this number.

I'll talk to her and see if I can get them posted again.

91trunk 09-03-2009 09:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris1529 (Post 138102)
91Trunk...why isn't is at the track?

Leaving tonight for Columbus, OH. I run in the NMRA.

Floyd Staggs 09-03-2009 09:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hill (Post 138104)
I believe what has happened is this. An account can only have XXX (don't know how many) amount of views, and it appears Mom's account has exceeded this number.

I'll talk to her and see if I can get them posted again.

Thanks Chris, those pictures are awesome for us out here on the left coast.

Larry Hill 09-03-2009 09:53 AM

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I am going to try to figure out what happened on the pics.

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...bucket/035.jpg

Floyd Staggs 09-03-2009 10:07 AM

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The pics are back now ??????????????????????????????????/

MFR440 09-03-2009 10:27 AM

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Is there another round of Stock qualifying, or is 1st round of class the last one?

Isaac Zane 09-03-2009 10:28 AM

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Done! Pending Tech....

roseracing 09-03-2009 10:30 AM

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Big matchup in first round of A/SA class eliminations.

1781 Dan Fletcher ****WINNER**** 0.010 10.332 127.39

250 Don Garlits 0.007 10.489 127.92

Looks like Garlits got him on the tree, slightly. The old man still has it.

Awesome race between 2 great racers. Wish I could've seen it.

Brad

bill dedman 09-03-2009 11:36 AM

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I hope Fletch can cut a light like that when he's 77 years old... LOL!

It's no accident Garlits is called "BIG DADDY!!!

Tony Janes 09-03-2009 12:08 PM

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2 Attachment(s)
This is a picture of Mary Ann Method, Fred Burris and Cal Method behind Fred. Fred Burris is the former owner of James Perone 69 Nova.

Ellis V. Buth 09-03-2009 12:57 PM

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How about the bump spot (pending teardown) of 1.016 under the index. Since I have been going to Indy (1997-present) I have never seen anything like this! Dad ran 1.002 under and has to wait and see who shows up first round...133 cars 1 second or more under...UNBELIEVABLE!!!

Ed Wright 09-03-2009 01:02 PM

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Johns A/SA 10.14, 119, Duell A/SA 10.13, 117.


Don't run a lot of MPH for those ETs, do they? :D

treessavoy 09-03-2009 03:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 138156)
Johns A/SA 10.14, 119, Duell A/SA 10.13, 117.


Don't run a lot of MPH for those ETs, do they? :D

The far end of the track is running a little slow, maybe with a little prep it will pick up....ha!

JimR

Larry Hill 09-03-2009 04:37 PM

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I have got some pictures, but first about teardown. All of Hajek's cars have to teardown. NHRA is allowing them to take all non-essential stuff off tonight. I have a picture I will post later.

Others in teardown: John Livingston, Phil Pierce, another Mustang. I will know more later.

We went by and took our bottle of Kentucky's finest to Jim Waldo, the winner of the A/S challenge. It is a bottle of Woodford Reserve in a 2009 Ky. Derby bottle. I have a pic I will post later.

A story about the big wheelstand Gary Emmons did this morning. His brother Terry was supposed to tighten down the shocks and he asked which way to turn them. Gary told him clockwise. Terry turned them and said I think that is wrong. Gary said No that's right, close the hood. But he in fact loosened them all the way up. It was the best wheelstand of the weekend! And Gary said it was his fault, he just told him wrong.

More later.

Patsy

Larry Hill 09-03-2009 04:42 PM

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/001-4.jpg
Tim Gillespie and Julie

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Jim Beaudrou B/SA winner

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Paul Boster B/SA

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Bill and Grace Howell B/SA

Larry Hill 09-03-2009 04:49 PM

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/005-4.jpg
Bohannon's SS corvette

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Brian, Katie & TJ VanPoppel, and Daddy Don Kennedy
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Katie and Stocker

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Redman

Larry Hill 09-03-2009 04:55 PM

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/010-3.jpg
Gene Bichlmeier GT/I btw he had to do a drug test today.

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Paul Hellenburg

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Dan Kyle

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Jim Boburka SS

Larry Hill 09-03-2009 05:00 PM

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/013-3.jpg
Nick Morris's car and his Dad, the owner

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Todd Franz

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Mike and Corkie Welfel F/SA and Sadie

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Nitro Joe

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Matt Alvey

keith ohanesian 09-03-2009 05:11 PM

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Good times!

Ronnie Hamlin 09-03-2009 06:35 PM

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[QUOTE=Larry Hill;138208]I have got some pictures, but first about teardown. All of Hajek's cars have to teardown. NHRA is allowing them to take all non-essential stuff off tonight. I have a picture I will post later.

Others in teardown: John Livingston, Phil Pierce, another Mustang. I will know more later.

I spoke with Johnny Fisher (K/SA winner) and he said he was invited to the barn.....as usual.

Michael Beard 09-03-2009 07:02 PM

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Oh good grief... how many times do they have to have that car apart? I think Fisher told me that a few years ago, he had gotten torn down three races in a row. Congrats on your class win, though, Johnny!

Larry Hill 09-03-2009 07:28 PM

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We were going to have a picture of Beaudrou and Jimmy Defrank in staging before B/SA semi-finals, but Jimmy declined to have his picture made for reasons unknown. But it was really "COOL" to see Darrel Wikle and another crewmember with gloves on to remove the dry ice from the intake manifold and to carefully place the carb base plate (which appeared to be non-stock) that had been frozen in dry ice in the trunk. Evidently the "left coast rulebook" is different from the "right coast rulebook".

And on the winning hand (Jim Beaudro) used 10 # of ice in zip lock bags to cool the engine and cool water running thru the radiator. The good old fashioned way (and legal).

Congratulations Jim Beaudro for your class win and maybe tomorrow Jimmy will take time to read the "East of the Mississippi rulebook", which is the one everyone gets in the mail.

Larry

p.s. I know what I saw.

ChevyII 09-03-2009 07:30 PM

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Michael,

Fisher's win in class was impressive to say the least. He took out some really good cars in K!

A few observations;

Emmons wheelstand was awesome but very scary. The car just kept going up and we all know the real story thanks to Larry.

Boudreau's class win in B automatic over DeFrank was a great race. The orange Camaro certainly makes some good power.

The final in A/SA was an all Mustang affair and was no surprise.These cars are certainly not showing their hand and the new Dodge drag paks will be the car which will finally push them to show their full potential. Having said that Barton's performance with the Carp machine was impressive!

Fletch made his appearance today and showed everyone he certainly has the "game" figured out! The race with Garlits was icing on the cake and his single run in Comp in the second session proved that.

A ton of cars were running some impressive ETs in the worst air of the weekend but runs to the 1,000 ft. mark were a common theme.

Looking forward to the Hemi Challenge and Super Stock class eliminations in the morning.

Mike

Dave Ficacci 09-03-2009 07:36 PM

Re: Live from Indy!!! US Nationals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 138230)
We were going to have a picture of Beaudrou and Jimmy Defrank in staging before B/SA semi-finals, but Jimmy declined to have his picture made for reasons unknown. But it was really "COOL" to see Darrel Wikle and another crewmember with gloves on to remove the dry ice from the intake manifold and to carefully place the carb base plate (which appeared to be non-stock) that had been frozen in dry ice in the trunk. Evidently the "left coast rulebook" is different from the "right coast rulebook".

And on the winning hand (Jim Beaudro) used 10 # of ice in zip lock bags to cool the engine and cool water running thru the radiator. The good old fashioned way (and legal).

Congratulations Jim Beaudro for your class win and maybe tomorrow Jimmy will take time to read the "East of the Mississippi rulebook", which is the one everyone gets in the mail.

Larry

p.s. I know what I saw.

Since you took the time to post about all the infractions on Jimmy DeFranks car, I assume you also took the time to point this out to an NHRA official as it was going on?

And for the second time... Jim's last name is Boudreau

Larry Hill 09-03-2009 07:41 PM

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/025-2.jpg
The Mustang guys getting ready for teardown.

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Under Bobby Warren's hood getting ready for the C/SA final.

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Beaudro getting ready for the B/SA final.

Larry Hill 09-03-2009 07:45 PM

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http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/o...cket/020-2.jpg
Bill Hawk's broken block and oil pump.

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Jim Waldo with his A/S trophy and bottle of Kentucky's finest.

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Gary Emmons in the Lucas Oil/Emmons compound (with fans)!

AC 09-03-2009 07:46 PM

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tearing down that mustang motor must be a bitch.

Great pictures!!!

Ed Wright 09-03-2009 07:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 138139)
I hope Fletch can cut a light like that when he's 77 years old... LOL!

It's no accident Garlits is called "BIG DADDY!!!

Wish I could cut one like that when I'm 65. Which will be like right now.

Tom P 09-03-2009 09:07 PM

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Looks like Hawk had a heck of a landing. Richie Pauley did that at Mission a couple years ago, landing on the oil pump busted the block. Maybe a more collapsible stock aluminum pump is the answer?

Sure are lots of guys that look close to Garlits age in these pictures !

Andys dad 09-03-2009 09:52 PM

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Larry I think you meant the air cleaner base not the carb base plate.

Just what rule do you think they broke?

Scott Loge 09-03-2009 11:57 PM

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Last i checked NHRA was'nt smart enough to send out different rulebooks Larry. They can't even factor these cars correctly which would be why your Cuda is at what 395 or 405 and our GTX is at 417 with the same motor?!?! Sorry but we choose to run our cars 1320 feet not 1,000. We also work on them, run them, travel to race them, we were born out here and continue to live here due to our circumstances. If the grass is so green out here come on out. Same stupid factor as the 340 duster at 289 and the Cuda at 299 1972. Why? Air, Weight, FUN. Don't you build em to go fast?!?! We tried like hell to be the first G car to go 10's, at an NHRA race, not in testing or at some super combo on a Wednesday that your uncle saw. Congrats to all those at Indy that ran as fast as you could and you proved why my dog could'nt ever hunt in your world.

Jamie Loge 09-04-2009 12:33 AM

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Thanks Mrs Hill for the nice picture of my husband. We are not able to go to Indy every year and I wish I were there too. We have two little boys at home 2 yrs and 4 months. I hope to go in a few years. It would be nice to meet your family.

Jamie Loge

Larry Hill 09-04-2009 06:13 AM

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It is another beautiful day here in Indy. Super gas has been warming up outside our bedroom window for hours now. They should be running first round in a few minutes. Super Stock should be running class by 9.

Dave,
It was pointed out to an Nhra official.
Sorry I keep spelling Boudreau's name wrong. I guess I am using the southern version.

Andy's Dad,
It was the air cleaner base, sorry.
The rule that was broken is the one about no dry ice! Oh, I forgot, that rule shows up in the "West Coast rulebook".

Oh, in A/SA yesterday, they ran like they showed up in the lanes. They all agreed they had to beat everyone there, so what did it matter.

Well we are going down to watch super stock run class in a bit, so we will wander by the barn and let you know who all is there.

Patsy

keith ohanesian 09-04-2009 06:20 AM

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You tell em!

Bryan Worner 09-04-2009 07:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 138241)
Wish I could cut one like that when I'm 65. Which will be like right now.

Come on now! Do you think Big Daddy will cut .00 lights everytime out?? Don't take this as a bust on Big, but did you ever hear the saying "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then!"

This was probably his first, and last race in this car anyway!!!!

Michael Beard 09-04-2009 07:44 AM

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Quote:

4 Jimmy DeFrank 1499 Jim Boudreau
C5 0.055 10.284 109.55 ****WINNER**** 0.013 10.234 126.71
B/SA Index: 11.55 (+/-): -1.266 B/SA Index: 11.55 (+/-): -1.316
Prior rounds:
Qualified: #24 10.342 117.99 #47 10.407 124.45

Jimmy DeFrank's incremental times: 60ft-1.363 sec., 330ft-4.053, 660ft-6.386/104.76 mph, 1,000ft-8.430.
Jim Boudreau's incremental times: 60ft-1.336 sec., 330ft-4.067, 660ft-6.415/104.00 mph, 1,000ft-8.470.
According to my figures, DeFrank was only .002 behind at 1000', and had mph on Boudreau. It looks like DeFrank was heading for a 10.187-10.189, and would've gotten there by .00x....?

Another Friendly Racer 09-04-2009 07:57 AM

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I'm guessing Defrank gave up the win in fear of running -1.40 under, unless he broke past 1000 ft?

Ed Wright 09-04-2009 07:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 138296)
Come on now! Do you think Big Daddy will cut .00 lights everytime out?? Don't take this as a bust on Big, but did you ever hear the saying "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then!"

This was probably his first, and last race in this car anyway!!!!

Your right Bryan, just another of my lame attempts at humor.

Sorry if I offended you.

keith ohanesian 09-04-2009 08:00 AM

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Mike WHO CARES!

Chuck Norton 09-04-2009 08:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Loge (Post 138276)
Last i checked NHRA was'nt smart enough to send out different rulebooks Larry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 138288)
The rule that was broken is the one about no dry ice! Oh, I forgot, that rule shows up in the "West Coast rulebook".Patsy

Being old really sucks!! First, I'm not at Indy and that's enough of a frustration in itself but now, I can't tell if I've got an "east coast" or a "west coast" rulebook. I missed most of both football games on TV last night because I was trying to determine which book I really have. I know that none of the contributors to this critical discussion would deliberately mislead any of the loyal readers so I'm becoming even more confused than usual.

I can't find any reference to dry ice in my book. I've looked on page 250 where it talks about cool cans, Freon, wet rags, etc. and it doesn't mention dry ice. I've looked on page 105 where the fuel system limitations for Stock Eliminator are described, right down to where we can't put the (legal) cool can and it doesn't mention dry ice. All I can find is the paragraph on page 250 where it says that we can't artificially cool or heat the fuel. Putting ice (dry or wet) on the intake manifold seems to me to not be cooling the fuel, but cooling a piece of metal. I'm thinking that putting dry ice in the fuel cell would be considering cooling the fuel? Running an intercooler to cool the incoming air would be illegal since it involves changing the ambient temperature of the air that enters the induction system and that's specifically banned. The next sentence says that all towels and ice (type not specified) must be removed before leaving the staging "area" and I interpret that to mean the staging lanes. Larry/Patsy, where am I going wrong? Putting a cold substance (not Freon, but ice of any type) on the manifold must be accomplishing the same thing (cooling a piece of metal). As long as everything is removed before pulling out of the staging lanes, it seems to be OK according to the book they sent me?

So, Scott, was I sent an "east" or "west" coast book? Or, am I completely off base and looking in the wrong place? Assuming that I have a "west" coast book since I drive by NHRA offices almost every day, could someone please e-mail me the wording of an "east" coast book so that i can compare and contract the differences?

Since I have to pay extra for a book for 2010 anyway, I want to be sure to get them both.

Keep having fun. At least some of you are there!!

c


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