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Maybe for you...everyone has their own way of staying sharp......to each his own.....I see nothing wrong with it.

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Well I guess we disagree on the fact that it is ok to cheat if it is only a little cheat. As far as the blockers go I think if they are going to allow them Jeggies type would be better than the perminent ones as far as safety in the pits.

I drive or drove (been awhile) A 1970 NOVA Stocker #5970 That I hope to have back out soon.

John Kristianson

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So basically Jeg is a cheater cuz he threw his blinder and his (approved) non wired practice button was seen on T.V.! Well to hell with this man...I quit!

"I ran 1.5 under legally (ahem) yet my .117 light cost me the round against the guy throwing his blinder!" FOUL!!!!!!

But hey, rules is rules!

Manny Sousa

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SO where's the video????????

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I've had it, im going to Summit from now on! At least the buttons in those cars are legally hooked up and activating something other than their mental situation.As for the blinder Jeggie should have rolled down his window and threw it at his opponent that would have done more for him. C,mon guys really.

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Get your tin foil hats on guys, I just saw a black helicoptor land on the grassy knoll! :D

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Yeah, we might see ignition interupters, boxes with little lights that tell you when to hit the gas and when to let off, crazy photo cells that release the trans brake, adjustable buttons, display batteries that hide NOS bottles in them, front engine plates drilled for nos, twin delay boxes one for the trans brake and the other for the 2 step, (traction control). all that crazy stuff that has never happened.

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SS Engine Guy,
Are you saying throwing the blinder down after launch gave Jeggie an advantage on the tree? That is what I meant by 'non advantageous'. I agree, a blinder that isn't permanently mounted is "against the rules" but you can't compare it to having a cam too big which does give a performance advantage (so be it a little one). The best I can compare having a blinder that's not permanently attached is to compare it to forgetting to put your window net up on a run and I bet if one of your friends did that you wouldn't make a big deal of it. An official would give you a warning to put the net up next time...

Anyway, like some said here... let's put this to rest and remember why we do this.... for the fun and friendly competition. If we saw someone leaving off the top yellow in super stock; that would be cause for an uproar, not this.

Scuba Steve,,, thanks for the props bud. This kind of stuff (people making something out of nothing) reminds me why I go bracket racing more often. Had a blast this weekend at Mikes race!

Peter Biondo
S/Pro 1136
SS1136
Stock 1136

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I think this forum was created to talk about the positive aspects of this sport. A place for racer's to post topics about what was going on around NHRA and IHRA Class Racing. A select few have turned this forum into something very negative with very little positive discussion. Some people on here have turned this thread into a " Jeg Coughlin" bashing session. And for what reason? He made a mistake. I'm sure everyone on here has made a mistake at some point. It is really great to see Jeg racing in the stock eliminator category. His racing in stock will also bring more exposure to the class because of it. Many on here I'm sure will disagree with me.....because they have nothing positive to say about anyone at any time. Keith brought up a good point. Sanctioning bodies aren't destroying Stock/Super Stock racing.....the racers are. Why would someone young want to get involved with these classes? After reading a few threads on here they would probobly lose interest very fast due to the negativity and "conspiracy theories" of some. Like Peter said, discussions like these are a reminder of why I go bracket racing more.

Ryan Horensky
C/SA 1273

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I have seen a lot of nutty threads on message boards, and this one has to be right at the top.

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One thing that has not been mentioned is Jeggie shifting the transmission to "safe neutral" after finishing the run. On those type of shifters, reverse/neutral are on the same detent. I have the same shifter that he has. To go into reverse on my transmission, you have to engage the trans brake to back up. I am not saying he has or uses one, just making a point. Dyno

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I've been burned by this stuff and I hate to see others get burned by it also. I'm nutty 'cause I care.

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What's gonna happen when he starts to win in this car? Man I guess you guys are Summit people. Yellow and black!! Don't talk back!!

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Were do you find the video??????
Bob Lasko
1134
SS/CS

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Come on Pete, you know as well as I do that throwing a blinder in the seat after the car has left wouldn't give you any advantage on the tree. Its a matter of what is a rule violation and what isn't. Too many rules not adhered to because of lack of enforcement is what has dilluted Stock and SS to what it is now. Whoever wrote the rule about permenant attachment of blinders must have thought it was somewhat important to include it in the rule book. If it is important enough to put it in writing then it is important enough to be enforced.

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Drooze, you need to come up with something new and break up all this crap. There has gotta be something better to talk about. How about the DP's going to fast, the Fords going to fast, the C/SA's going too fast last year at Indy and kicking my can (no 11 of 11). Bruce Noland being nice, the oil spill, Greg Hill being happy with the new cars (Greg, that was too easy), old time rock-n-roll, Larry Hill's pink car, not enough beer, too much beer, Monday HP, Tuesday HP, Grey Goose Pear Vodka with a touch of tonic, Redfish, children, grandchildren, good typers, bad typers, anything but this stuff. Gee

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Ok,
I didn't want to bring it up, but since SS guy did so here goes.
He is absolutely right about the importance of the blinder rule. Some may not, but NHRA did think it was important enough to enlist the help of 4 racers to help pen the blinder rule. They assigned one of their Tech people to guide and oversee what was written. Then it went to NHRA and was tossed around in committee. I am proud to say I was one of the 4 racers that had some input in the rule. I'm also proud to say NHRA took the highroad on that rule. It is all about safety. It is also my opinion there is no room for a minor rule infraction. Peter, if that was the case the 1/4 inch of my right side wheel base that was outside the limits should have been considered MINOR...
It wasn't so I lost # 1 qualifier and also lost a new SS/DS class record.
Rules are rules and we must abide by all of them.
Peter, Please don't make defending your friend make you look bad or look like you are compromising your integrity. I've always looked up to you and your family as leaders in this sport, as well as Jeg and his family. I still will...
Lets move on .. It is what it is....
By the way that wheelbase rule probably saved me some grief with my car. The problem was a rt front suspension about to fall apart...

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Parent's, children and grandkids are what me and my wife live for. I also perfer Bevidere on the rocks and Walleye fillet's deep fried with Shore Lunch beer batter. Drag racing, hunting and fishing all take the back burner compared to my family and friends. Out of 151 DP cars, theres only 9 built 5.7's and 3, 5.9's. Smart move Mr. Jeff.

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Mr. Adger, Your so correct. Rules are rules. What more can anyone say?

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Jeff I love the new cars. They just need to be in the right classes. That Grey Goose pear vodka thing sounds like a sissy drink to me. How about some Knob Creek on the rocks.

Greg

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Jeff,
Are you trying to change the subject again? I've stayed out of this thread on purpose but since you invited me, I am a little interested in what DYNO had to say about the shifters in these cars. I heard that some of the CJ's have trans-brakes as well. Supposedly they are not wired-up. You guys asked for this stuff by bringing crate motor cars into Stock. Just my 2 cents worth big dawg!

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Know of the Coan T350 which is supplied with the Precision shifter. Has clean neutral past high gear and does not have trans brake. It is all in the design of the valve body. as you all know.

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Not to worry Jeff...Sorensen will be uncorking his car at Woodburn tomorrow in good air...the stick in the eye folks will get one of their favorite targets back in the crosshairs! LOL

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The cars you are referring to are purpose-built factory race cars, not Crate Motor cars. NHRA is okay with purpose-built factory race cars; Crate Motor cars are anathema. (No, I'm not campaigning for NHRA to add crate motors, just pointing out the difference)

Another good one: You can have blinders in fast cars, but you can't deep stage a slow car.

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Greg, Knob Creek sounds like something yall made in Kentucky without taxes. But if it dripped out of a Mopar radiator, I will have to try it. You gotta come to my fish camp and try some of this stuff I got. Now back to the subject at hand. So far the 6.1 got 5 and 5 coming, 90 of them made, the 5.7 got 10, and could get more by adjustment time, 7 of them made, the system has had some effect. Won't take long. Bruce, what you want to know about a dyno? Absolute Vanilla and a touch of tonic ain't bad, better than sleeping pills.

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Michael,
I think anathema is too strong. Nobody has excommunicated your type of crate motor cars from nhra Stock because they were never in the guides. And I don't know of anybody who curses or detests them.

Jeff,
I don't want to know anything about dyno.

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Anathema? Excommunicated?

I had to Google Anathema.........


Words not commonly heard on Classracer....and I doubt I've ever heard the word Anathema before......

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me too Rich!

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Rich -- Someone's Catholic backround is beginning to catch-up ...........maybe more than one person .

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Jack...that was my impression on that one as well.

I grew up in a Presbyterian/Potestant houshold........and yes I went to Sunday School every week.

I was always kind of glad we were not Catholic due to the tales I heard about how strict Catholic school and religious upbringing was.


I am guessing you were rasied as a Catholic and turned out just fine.......

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That IS a good one, Michael.
But you know, to some , you shouldn't have to even race anyone that doesn't put 50 Grand in their car for openers....

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Fine - I guess .........Hmmmmm -- Altar Boy turned into a Used Car Jockey ........what would the Nuns say about that ...................but none of what they taught me was wrong !

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Maybe Jeggie just accomplished what he set out to do------gain an advantage by getting into your heads by way of ESPN. Great manipulation of the media. LOL

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I figured out the blinder deal. The rule said it has to be removable with tools. Isn't the hand the first known tool to man?


Mine are now removable with hand tools:)