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Ed Fernandez 02-28-2011 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean Kennedy (Post 242987)
The only reason Ed thinks you should use your real name is because it's harder to take cheap shots at anonymous people.
Boo hoo hoo hoo.Oh my self esteem.Boo hoo hoo.

Ed Wright 02-28-2011 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean Kennedy (Post 242987)
The only reason Ed thinks you should use your real name is because it's harder to take cheap shots at anonymous people.
Wrong Ed here, but it's just harder to respect people that hide behind childish made up names.

Bunkster 02-28-2011 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason (Post 242899)
Bunkster, you have hit on something. Us no names cannot use the real name forum so why are the real names complaining about us on the forum we ARE allowed to use?

Maybe its because people seldom ever use the real name forum and the multi-posters with real names would only be preaching to a very limited audience.

And if the *HRA's bigwigs only read the real name forum to get opinions of real racers, they would think everything with racing is fine.
Jason, it is a mystery why some complain about anonymity, when there was a section constructed just for them, so that they could stay away from cowards and Pecksnifs that, for some odd reason, do not want their existence on the internet to be known.

I mean, what rational person would wish to protect their identity?

Ed Fernandez 02-28-2011 10:13 PM
Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed
 
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Originally Posted by Bunkster (Post 243029)
Jason, it is a mystery why some complain about anonymity, when there was a section constructed just for them, so that they could stay away from cowards and Pecksnifs that, for some odd reason, do not want their existence on the internet to be known.

I mean, what rational person would wish to protect their identity?
Pecksnif seems to fit you well.Buy a car,call it Pecksnif and go out there and try not to red light.

Pedigo Perf 02-28-2011 10:37 PM
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Hope that Pecksnif isn't a CJ or DP, that would take a whole new thread!

Pedigo Perf 02-28-2011 10:54 PM
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That's Pecksniffs with two f's when you order the graphics. Damn Ed I'm still laughing.

voltdr 02-28-2011 11:23 PM
Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed
 
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Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 242285)
No free rides on red lights, you don't know who goes red untill both drivers leave the tree.
Since this isn't such a good topic, lets add no reaction times or increments down track.
Casey Miles
248H Stock?
One time you want to update racing and then the next time you want to go back to the 70s. Which way is it? Or do you just want to make things best for you?
Dan Foley

danny waters sr 03-01-2011 09:21 AM
Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed
 
If it ain't broke ,Don't fix it !!!!!!!Even PINKS had (red lites ) and it was always the 1st that lost.

Casey Miles 03-01-2011 09:29 AM
Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed
 
One time you want to update racing and then the next time you want to go back to the 70s. Which way is it? Or do you just want to make things best for you?
Dan Foley
Today 02:54 AM

First let me say that I have nothing to gain if the tree's software changes, it's a change to make each racer have to take the chance at the tree. No free rides on either side of the tree. The change would have to have true win lights so that neither racers knows if the other fouled, making it a race to the finish line. The other part is take the technology, like the incrementations out of the race information and put all back into the racers hands to figure it out for themselfs. I think that there are some of the racers, that without the time increments, they wouldn't have a clue on what to dial from one round to another. Technology is great, but too much technology can spoil the sportsmanship in racing.
On Long Island we used to race with one dial for the day, I'm not suggesting that, that would be going backwards.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

Bobby DiDomenico 03-01-2011 09:40 AM
Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed
 
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Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson (Post 242274)
I had to laugh when i seen this, if i'm the faster car and the other guy red lights i'm counting to 3 after the my green comes on if thats the rule, lol

Joe,
If it was a close red light you wouldn't see it, it would just show the green until the second car got their chance to lose.

Pedigo Perf 03-01-2011 09:44 AM
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Ok, what do you suggest to make it fair for the faster car who has the distraction of having another car launch and go down the track right beside him while having to concentrate on his light? Maybe it is a give and take situation and you build your car to suit the rules that are in place.

Ed Wright 03-01-2011 11:38 AM
Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed
 
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Originally Posted by Pedigo Perf (Post 243100)
Ok, what do you suggest to make it fair for the faster car who has the distraction of having another car launch and go down the track right beside him while having to concentrate on his light? Maybe it is a give and take situation and you build your car to suit the rules that are in place.
The slow guys that don't have to deal with it think that is all B.S.

Mark Yacavone 03-01-2011 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedigo Perf (Post 243100)
Ok, what do you suggest to make it fair for the faster car who has the distraction of having another car launch and go down the track right beside him while having to concentrate on his light? Maybe it is a give and take situation and you build your car to suit the rules that are in place.
I would say that perceived disadvantage is easily offset by you having a continuous and unrestricted view of your opponent near the finish line.

Pedigo Perf 03-01-2011 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 243131)
I would say that perceived disadvantage is easily offset by you having a continuous and unrestricted view of your opponent near the finish line.
It's all a matter of perspective. We had the faster car and redlit more than enough last year. I think some of these people think only the slow car can loose that way!

Pvt Parts 03-01-2011 12:48 PM
Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedigo Perf (Post 243100)
Ok, what do you suggest to make it fair for the faster car who has the distraction of having another car launch and go down the track right beside him while having to concentrate on his light? Maybe it is a give and take situation and you build your car to suit the rules that are in place.


Concentrate on the job you're there to do. You can't make any real decisions until you get the car into high gear anyway. Contrary to popular belief, you're not racing the guy in the other lane, you're trying to put together a 100% perfect pass in your lane. The person who gets closest to it will turn on the win light. If that is you.... great, if it's your opponent, he's earned it.

Mark Yacavone 03-01-2011 12:58 PM
Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed
 
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Originally Posted by Pedigo Perf (Post 243141)
It's all a matter of perspective. We had the faster car and redlit more than enough last year. I think some of these people think only the slow car can loose that way!
I didn't think slow cars could get loose?? Or did you mean lose?

Ed Fernandez 03-01-2011 01:27 PM
Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 243095)
One time you want to update racing and then the next time you want to go back to the 70s. Which way is it? Or do you just want to make things best for you?
Dan Foley
Today 02:54 AM

First let me say that I have nothing to gain if the tree's software changes, it's a change to make each racer have to take the chance at the tree. No free rides on either side of the tree. The change would have to have true win lights so that neither racers knows if the other fouled, making it a race to the finish line. The other part is take the technology, like the incrementations out of the race information and put all back into the racers hands to figure it out for themselfs. I think that there are some of the racers, that without the time increments, they wouldn't have a clue on what to dial from one round to another. Technology is great, but too much technology can spoil the sportsmanship in racing.
On Long Island we used to race with one dial for the day, I'm not suggesting that, that would be going backwards.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?
So a race that is over on the starting line is still run to the finish line.OK.When they get to the stripe neither guy knows it's a done deal already and one of the knuckleheads locks
the brakes up to make it close.Now you have a bad situation for no good reason.
Run a few scenarios through your head before you post suggestions for change.

Casey Miles 03-01-2011 02:01 PM
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So a race that is over on the starting line is still run to the finish line.OK.When they get to the stripe neither guy knows it's a done deal already and one of the knuckleheads locks
the brakes up to make it close.Now you have a bad situation for no good reason.
Run a few scenarios through your head before you post suggestions for change.

As a bracket and class racer, I'm on my brakes almost every round bringing the other car in closer, if you aren't, you are not doing your job. So what's your point?

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

John Kelley 03-01-2011 02:17 PM
Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 243148)
So a race that is over on the starting line is still run to the finish line.OK.When they get to the stripe neither guy knows it's a done deal already and one of the knuckleheads locks the brakes up to make it close.Now you have a bad situation for no good reason.
Run a few scenarios through your head before you post suggestions for change.
I see now......you don't understand how it would work.
Both cars would know the winner before they got to half track !! No need to jump on the brakes at the finish line......... geez Eddie Boy get a grip !!!

Ed Wright 03-01-2011 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pvt Parts (Post 243143)
Concentrate on the job you're there to do. You can't make any real decisions until you get the car into high gear anyway. Contrary to popular belief, you're not racing the guy in the other lane, you're trying to put together a 100% perfect pass in your lane. The person who gets closest to it will turn on the win light. If that is you.... great, if it's your opponent, he's earned it.
If you do that you won't red light, and the whole discussion is mute.

Pvt Parts 03-01-2011 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 243161)
If you do that you won't red light, and the whole discussion is mute.

Correct. Too many people worry about what's going on in the other lane instead of concentrating on improving their own performance. The last few feet mean nothing if you haven't done your job to that point.

Ed Fernandez 03-01-2011 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by John Kelley (Post 243160)
I see now......you don't understand how it would work.
Both cars would know the winner before they got to half track !! No need to jump on the brakes at the finish line......... geez Eddie Boy get a grip !!!
First let me say that I have nothing to gain if the tree's software changes, it's a change to make each racer have to take the chance at the tree. No free rides on either side of the tree. The change would have to have true win lights so that neither racers knows if the other fouled, making it a race to the finish line.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

So tell me what did I miss?

John Kelley 03-01-2011 10:13 PM
Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 243217)
The change would have to have true win lights so that neither racers knows if the other fouled, making it a race to the finish line.
So tell me what did I miss?
You still don't have it figured out..........sad !!
The INSTANT the second car leaves the line THE WIN LIGHT COMES on ....in the lane with the least infraction on the redlight.....
A CAVEMAN could figure that out.....I guess you're not up to that level yet !!! No GEICO commercials for you Dude !! :-)

Ed Fernandez 03-01-2011 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by John Kelley (Post 243265)
You still don't have it figured out..........sad !!
The INSTANT the second car leaves the line THE WIN LIGHT COMES on ....in the lane with the least infraction on the redlight.....
A CAVEMAN could figure that out.....I guess you're not up to that level yet !!! No GEICO commercials for you Dude !! :-)
Uhh Mr. Doesn't Race At All,No where in this thread ,except in your post,has the scenario come up that the win light would come up after the second car leaves the line.In Casey's
world he said BOTH cars would race to the finish line and they would only know who won when they crossed the stripe.
So go out your back door and shoot a couple of crows,cook them and eat them.
It must be terrible to grow old and need the feeling to be included in the gang at any cost.

Mark Yacavone 03-01-2011 11:45 PM
Re: perfect reason to get tree fixed
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 243291)
Uhh Mr. Doesn't Race At All,No where in this thread ,except in your post,has the scenario come up that the win light would come up after the second car leaves the line.In Casey's
world he said BOTH cars would race to the finish line and they would only know who won when they crossed the stripe.
So go out your back door and shoot a couple of crows,cook them and eat them.
It must be terrible to grow old and need the feeling to be included in the gang at any cost.

Hmmm, Makes you wonder who's voting on what, doesn't it, Ed ?

Ed Fernandez 03-02-2011 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 243294)
Hmmm, Makes you wonder who's voting on what, doesn't it, Ed ?
Mr Tightwad always kicks in after his buddy Mr Bill comes on here to change rules he has no stake in.What can you do.I hope Mr Tightwad has enjoyed his serving of crow,
featherless hopefully.

Bob Bender 03-02-2011 12:29 AM
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Cant we all just get along .........................lmfao.......

Ed Wright 03-02-2011 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Bender (Post 243305)
Cant we all just get along .........................lmfao.......
But, Bob, it's so hard to not stir the pot a little, then sit back and watch this same joke play out over and over again. I'd like no taxes, no gov, and free ice cream for all, but that ain't gonna happen either. LMAO!!

X-TECH MAN 03-02-2011 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 243337)
But, Bob, it's so hard to not stir the pot a little, then sit back and watch this same joke play out over and over again. I'd like no taxes, no gov, and free ice cream for all, but that ain't gonna happen either. LMAO!!
You forgot free entry to an NHRA race....LOL.

Ed Wright 03-02-2011 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 243340)
You forgot free entry to an NHRA race....LOL.
Oh, right. I guess I should add free entry to all NHRA races. Oh, and if we have to keep the gov I vote for Pam Anderson for president. Yeah, that's the ticket! LOL

Harry 6674 03-02-2011 04:35 PM
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What an excellent chance for IHRA to step up and institute this worse red light rule to help the little guy. I keep hearing some of you guys have some pull with them so lets git er done. Maybe NHRA will follow suit then all the biotching about this subject will be over.

Ed Wright 03-02-2011 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Harry 6674 (Post 243447)
What an excellent chance for IHRA to step up and institute this worse red light rule to help the little guy. I keep hearing some of you guys have some pull with them so lets git er done. Maybe NHRA will follow suit then all the biotching about this subject will be over.
Or drive more guys away. Did you notice the voting? If more would face reality this would go away. It's not going to change.

Chad Rhodes 03-02-2011 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 243456)
Or drive more guys away. Did you notice the voting? If more would face reality this would go away. It's not going to change.
sometimes i really wonder what color the sky is in some people's world, don't you Ed?

danny waters sr 03-02-2011 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 243459)
sometimes i really wonder what color the sky is in some people's world, don't you Ed?
It sure ain't RED is it (or is it ) lol


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