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Mickey Whaley 11-24-2011 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by monte howard (Post 295115)
wow, parked the stocker for 3 years and it's amazing how far behind i am now. I have been gathering up to date parts to put it back together and the list keeps growing.
Now i need a aftermarket block,and roller rockers, enough already.

jegs

Tom Goldman 11-24-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 295187)
Too bad the clowns in Glendora don't have an expiration date.

Ed's best post EVER!

dennis dunlap 11-24-2011 12:25 PM

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:cool::cool:, Don,t worry about it,,,,,,More over-time at the OLE GAS CO. and less recreational time at ROYAL-VILLE !!!! Go for it... HAPPY THANKSGIVING

fredjohnston 11-24-2011 02:42 PM

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Apparently, one of the 2012 enhancements will be that "all" window nets will expire after 2 years. 2011 rules had an two year expiration term for the "mesh" type nets only; "ribbon" type nets did not expire.

I do not see anything about an expiration date.

"A SFI-27.1 ribbon-type or mesh-type window net is mandatory on any full-bodied car required by the rules to have a roll cage."

The only thing changed here is the placing of "SFI-27.1" in front of the wording "ribbon-type" and the deleting of the "SFI-27.1" in front of the words Mesh-Type. So now both "ribbon-type and "mesh-type" window nets must meet SFI-17.1 specs.

Robbie H 11-24-2011 04:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 294798)
So what class will Bill Hawk's new car "Fit"?

What a Joke

Dont worry Larry it's not goin anywhere... A B C . Last week at 500ft it went 9.48 141way heavy for A/SA with a slipping trans and a mild tune up. Goin tuesday with a new trans and I think if all goes right its easily gonna go .30's and if we take the weight out 9.20's are possible. We are gonna do what they call "slip trhough the cracks" as far as the new class structure so get to work on that Mopar lord knows Billy and the Cook Brothers did their homework....oh and its not the 1st time (Shelby) ! By the way I too have a 69 Camaro C/SA / B/SA car with a brand new Tilburg motor and its exactly 1 second slower...unreal. Just tryin to give these guys a little credit for building a class piece that hauls ### !

boster 11-24-2011 07:06 PM

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Hudlow , tell them what you really think (LMAO) .See you next week for a cocktail or two

Bo

Robbie , BB or CC not A, B or C

Robbie H 11-24-2011 08:30 PM

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[QUOTE=boster;295326]Hudlow , tell them what you really think (LMAO) .See you next week for a cocktail or two

Bo

Robbie , BB or CC not A, B or C[/QUOTE

Always up for holiday cocktails Anthony you and I need to get together for a few days in AC. But Bo you better put your glasses back on this combo like Charley said previously can run A B OR C remember we don't have a blower dual overhead cams etc just a fuel injected 428. Heck they can go SS/GA OR FA and kill the record with less hp than stock lol ! 141mph and there is more.... less than 10 runs on a brand new car that actually works like a new Mustang should thanks to Ken Keir it looks like Rock Haas' SS car leavin. How many new STOCKERS do you see leave with both wheels 4ft in the air and have a 1.25 60 ft ? Just trying to point out that these guys picked a good combo and made it work thats what its all about....I am not saying some of these new combos aren't underfactored but its not like the Hawk/Cook car is the only combo like that running either. Look at Bob Shaw Bob Dennis Monteith etc. they race smart and know how to pick a combo and make it fast. Thats what its all about......

fredjohnston 11-24-2011 09:18 PM

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[QUOTE=Robbie H;295334]
Quote:

Originally Posted by boster (Post 295326)
Hudlow , tell them what you really think (LMAO) .See you next week for a cocktail or two

Bo

Robbie , BB or CC not A, B or C[/QUOTE

Always up for holiday cocktails Anthony you and I need to get together for a few days in AC. But Bo you better puy your glasses back on this combo like Charley said previously can run A B OR C remember we don't have a blower dual overhead cams etc just a fuel injected 428. Heck we can go SS/GA OR FA and kill the record with less hp than stock lol ! Everybody put that in your pipe and smoke it.....Whoa that might noy be legal next year but you get the message. 141mph and we aint even close.... less than 10 runs on a brand new car that actually works like a new Mustang should thanks to Ken Keir it looks like Rock Haas' SS car leavin. How many new STOCKERS do you see leave with both wheels 4ft in the air and have a 1.25 60 ft ?

It's not hard to make an underfactored combo run fast. Stop bragging. If the Camaro you say you have ran that fast, then you would have a reason to spout off.

Mark Markow 11-24-2011 09:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fredjohnston (Post 295294)
Apparently, one of the 2012 enhancements will be that "all" window nets will expire after 2 years. 2011 rules had an two year expiration term for the "mesh" type nets only; "ribbon" type nets did not expire.

I do not see anything about an expiration date.

"A SFI-27.1 ribbon-type or mesh-type window net is mandatory on any full-bodied car required by the rules to have a roll cage."

The only thing changed here is the placing of "SFI-27.1" in front of the wording "ribbon-type" and the deleting of the "SFI-27.1" in front of the words Mesh-Type. So now both "ribbon-type and "mesh-type" window nets must meet SFI-17.1 specs.

look at the last page that list the expiration dates on all safety equipment. it shows 2 years on nets.

SS Engine Guy 11-24-2011 09:26 PM

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xxx I'll just stay out of the pencil records until need be.

Robbie H 11-24-2011 11:43 PM

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[QUOTE=clutch man;295351]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie H (Post 295334)

always a bs combo and most of the time ILLEGAL!

Get your wallet out clutch boy...Torn down many times don't remeber them getting thrown out ...maybe I am wrong. But you my friend who probably never even drove one of these cars are a STROKE. I have never been throwed out personally. Come on out anytime and if you have a race car (doubt it) and let your **** do the talkin on the track otherwise buzz off ...As I said before these guys picked the right combo hired the right people built a beautiful race car that could be best apprearing or engineered anywhere. They worked as hard as anyone with an old combo to make sure everything was perfect and they had plenty of hp. Its not the only one out there either but it is the fastest by several tenths....thats a great accomplishment for anyone. They are all great guys too and eat and sleep this stuff. If you can't keep your negative comments to yourself do like I said get your wallet out and tear them down or stfu !

Robbie H 11-25-2011 12:09 AM

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[QUOTE=fredjohnston;295340]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie H (Post 295334)

It's not hard to make an underfactored combo run fast. Stop bragging. If the Camaro you say you have ran that fast, then you would have a reason to spout off.

What do you have Fred ? your computer hauls *** I know that. don't remember your name class or #. As we all know the new combos need some factoring but why cry about it ? it is what it is.... don't get your panties in a bunch roll with it .....NOBODY is gonna change it. Just like the old LT1 FI combos everybody cried about all the new cars and the old combos couldn't compete. and this is not much different. Dam enough holiday spirits time to go to bed had fun usually don't post and probably never will. Nothing like airing out... now back to the bat cave gotta get the Camaro runnin for my match race with Fast Freddy lol. Happy Holidays Everyone

Duane Eiskant II 11-25-2011 09:38 AM

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I say Robbie match races (bracket style) Fred Johnston....Best two outta three. But in all fairness to Fred, Robbie has to 1. Cover one eye 2. Tie one hand behind his back and 3. Let someone else dial the car in. I got a hundred on Double "O", been there with him when he was more handicapped then that and still helped him for the win. A awesome driver, and a fast car if they go to enough races the top 10 in points better watch out. Just sayin...............

Greg Hill 11-25-2011 10:28 AM

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Bill has always had fast cars and whatever he built would be fast. It just happens that his last two combinations were never made by Ford and this new one is basically a crate motor. Let me have a 427 small block with 230 cc Dart heads,13 to 1 compression, a 1000cfm throttle body, and a 600 lift solid roller cam and either one of our cars can go that fast. This is what that new 428 is. When you start bragging about how fast you are take into consideration what you have to work with.

boster 11-25-2011 12:06 PM

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Everybody has Honda , Toyota or BMW rods these days . There is no stock in NHRA stock racing and never has been . When the big block fords , chevys and Mopars came out back in the day they were underated too . Quit with all the complaining and race . Last I checked the new cars have not won all the races and they did not make us lose the round . The driver still counts for something .

But, good driver (Double O Hudlow) and a real fast car ( 2010 CJ 428ci) will be dangerous. Dont get Hudlow mad he will make you pay. Your better off to offer him a cocktail (LOL)


Bo Kenney
Hudlow's Buddy

Jeff Teuton 11-25-2011 12:17 PM

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How about this; a 68 Hemi Dart @ 3200 lbs @ 425 hp is an A,B, & C car also. Complete specs in book, fix the tubs, cal tracs, and lets try that for a while. Whatcha think.

Wade_Owens 11-25-2011 12:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 295128)
Monte you do not need a after market block or roller rockers. You need 3 speed transmission.

Tony, that'll be next year when the sticks and autos are combined. You know a PG car cant run with a stick!!!!

Wade O

ken robinson 11-25-2011 12:37 PM

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All I need is a winning lottery ticket .....Wow with all the new classes from AAA/S all the way to A/S the newer LS7 & LS9 corvettes are legal along with alota other newer cars ... I would like to be the first to welcome back Don Frezel to stock (hope I spelled your name correcty) . Ever year the rule change is a poke in the eye for some , more than others . The 3 tenths index wack was mine . Guess the roller rocker rule makes the older cars alittle more bullet proof and the newer cars aready had them . So much for a heads up win or loss due to a broken rocker. Add that to things I use to say list . LOL.

Mickey Whaley 11-25-2011 01:11 PM

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Dwa!

Phillip marvetz 11-25-2011 01:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 295401)
How about this; a 68 Hemi Dart @ 3200 lbs @ 425 hp is an A,B, & C car also. Complete specs in book, fix the tubs, cal tracs, and lets try that for a while. Whatcha think.

So does this mean I can run the crossram on the stocker now? The class guide only shows HP for the S/S engine.

boster 11-25-2011 01:49 PM

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I say give everybody everthing and get the party started . Take weight off old combo's give them heads , cams, carb's, blocks , lifter , roller rockers , blowers and superchargers .

Only thing get rid of u stock and v stock and anything slower then 12 second in the quater

Bo kenney
Bo Stock

ALMACK 11-25-2011 02:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boster (Post 295418)
...Only thing get rid of u stock and v stock and anything slower then 12 second in the quater

Bo kenney
Bo Stock


Huh ??

goinbroke2 11-25-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 295422)
Huh ??

I think he was joking/sarcastic by the smiley in his title.

Mickey Whaley 11-25-2011 03:29 PM

Re: 2012 Rules Are Posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boster (Post 295418)
I say give everybody everthing and get the party started . Take weight off old combo's give them heads , cams, carb's, blocks , lifter , roller rockers , blowers and superchargers .

Only thing get rid of u stock and v stock and anything slower then 12 second in the quater

Bo kenney
Bo Stock

Just remember where the scales are next year! I will put a keg and hooter girls there to remind.

Bryan Worner 11-25-2011 03:45 PM

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Hey Mick, these new stockers go much faster, we'll have 'em all tangled up down there!!!

jimi 11-25-2011 04:04 PM

Re: 2012 Rules Are Posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 295416)
So does this mean I can run the crossram on the stocker now? The class guide only shows HP for the S/S engine.

we can only hope so phil, i am already planning to put my dads a990 back to "stock" if they add the combo to the guide for stock

Mickey Whaley 11-25-2011 05:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 295431)
Hey Mick, these new stockers go much faster, we'll have 'em all tangled up down there!!!

They got tangled up in shutdown at vegas, who will be first to ask?

Phillip marvetz 11-25-2011 07:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jimi (Post 295432)
we can only hope so phil, i am already planning to put my dads a990 back to "stock" if they add the combo to the guide for stock

Sweet.
I already have the crossram on my Dodge, Getting ready for some IHRA racing next season. I just need to figure out these holleys now, lol.
Whats the scoop on the bellhousing adapters? Can we use them now also?

Dick Butler 11-25-2011 07:21 PM

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For some reason I cannot get the NHRA class data to download. What is the A-990 stick classification wt break?
Also with all the changes over the past few years is a motor legal in any body style same year for stock now? At one time they were sticky on being "available from the factory" then it got blurred in my memory.

ALMACK 11-25-2011 07:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goinbroke2 (Post 295426)
I think he was joking/sarcastic by the smiley in his title.

Thanks.
Didn't see that.
I was waiting for the " j.k. " or a winky after that statement.

Jeff Teuton 11-25-2011 09:37 PM

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Dick, the 65 is 3400 @ 425 hp. But I think they at least got to start the same as the single 4 bbl which is 440. But then again

Larry Hill 11-26-2011 10:04 AM

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Bo a slow roller is a lot of fun. You get a lot more track time. Slow rollers are usually a very hands on type of race car.

boster 11-26-2011 10:16 AM

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Thank you Mickey I need all the help I can get, Im going to hold you to that . Yes I was joking around , but could not get anyone to bite . Larry you could be right I might win more in a slower car


Going thru racing withdraw

Jim Wahl 11-26-2011 11:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 295485)
Bo a slow roller is a lot of fun. You get a lot more track time. Slow rollers are usually a very hands on type of race car.

Here here! I couldn't agree more! Jim


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Hudlow66 11-29-2011 02:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boster (Post 295400)
Dont get Hudlow mad he will make you pay. Your better off to offer him a cocktail (LOL)


Bo Kenney
Hudlow's Buddy

With this comment, I would sware to everything holy, that you're talking about this Hudlow :D


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