Re: What's New for 1968
 

Steve thanks for that info...never knew some early models had the 427 side-oiler motor, any idea on how many made it out the door before they went to the 428.

http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/...eGTad_1000.jpg

Re: What's New for 1968
 

http://bangshift.com/assets/gallerie..._comet_48_.jpg

http://bangshift.com/assets/gallerie..._comet_01_.jpg

http://bangshift.com/assets/gallerie..._comet_30_.jpg

http://bangshift.com/assets/gallerie..._comet_13_.jpg

http://bangshift.com/assets/gallerie..._comet_45_.jpg

http://bangshift.com/assets/gallerie..._comet_53_.jpg

http://bangshift.com/assets/gallerie..._comet_39_.jpg

http://bangshift.com/assets/gallerie..._comet_26_.jpg

http://bangshift.com/assets/gallerie..._comet_22_.jpg

http://bangshift.com/assets/gallerie..._comet_24_.jpg

http://www.streetlegaltv.com/news/th...race-survivor/

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Moose,,,,,,,,,

The 1968 Mercury Cyclone GT,,,,,,

What is the NHRA weight of that car with the 428...

Did that car fall into the 10.50 - 10.99 weight/horsepower factor.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Per NHRA Guide,

428 428 428
** ** **
C D E
335hp 335hp 335hp
COMET
Sedan 2 Dr Hdtp 10.47 10.03 9.76
MONTEGO
Sedan 4 Dr 10.19 9.77 9.51
Sedan 2 Dr Hdtp 10.41 9.98 9.71
MONTEGO MX
Sedan 4 Dr 10.28 9.85 9.58
Sedan 2 Dr Hdtp 10.49 10.05 9.78
Convertible 2 Dr 11.10 10.64 10.35
Sta Wag 11.95 11.45 11.14
CYCLONE
Sedan 2 Dr Hdtp 10.27 9.84 9.58
Sedan 2 Dr Fsbk 10.52 10.08 9.81
GT
Sedan 2 Dr Hdtp 10.38 9.95 9.68
Sedan 2 Dr Fsbk 10.59 10.15 9.88

Sorry the cut & paste from the guide doesn't work so well.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Steve, what size motor does your car have and what does it weight...is your Cyclone a '68 or '69 model.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Mine is a 68. Lance Line prepared my motor and he called it a 320hp 428 motor. I have not been able to weigh it because I have been unable for finish it. I plan to bracket race for a while to dial in the car and learn all about it before I jump into class. I have owned the car for 27 years. I like it. No other reason to race, just personal satisfation and gratification. Thank you for asking.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Steve,,,,,,,,

Thanks,,,,,,,,,,I have to lock on the NHRA Classification Guide,,,,,,,,

From what I gather,,,,,,,going back to 1968.

In 1968, the Cyclone GT 'fastback' with the 428, was classed in;

E/Stock (10.00 to 10.49 Wt/Hp) with the standard 428/335 HP
D/Stock (9.50 to 9.99 Wt/Hp) with the 428/335 HP Ram-Air 'option'

Of course the NHRA re-factored the 428/335 HP Ram-Air to 355 HP.

The 1968 Cyclone GT 'fastback' with the 390/325 HP was classed in;

F/Stock (10.50 to 10.99 Wt/Hp).

This was based upon a shipping weight of #3487 lbs.
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The very rare 1968 Cyclone GT, with the 427/390 HP 'Wedge', with a single 4-barrel was classed in;

C/Stock (9.00 to 9.49 Wt/Hp)

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Steve,,,,,,,,

Any production numbers for the 1968 Mercury Cyclone with the '427 Wedge'

http://www.mustangtek.com/Library3/C..._68-07_001.jpg

Re: What's New for 1968
 

I wonder how many other 427 side-oiler motors were installed in some other '68 Ford/Mercury models...they probably would have been built for a executive or employee, or a special order by a dealership for a promotional sale.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

From everything I've read the only model to get a 427 in '68 was the GTE Cougars.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

That's correct. The 427 was shown in some sales brochures but never made it into any production vehicle. The GTE Cougar got a 427 but it wasn't a Side Oiler. This debate comes up frequently on the FE forum but there is very good documentation to support what was and wasn't built.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

The answer would be ZERO.. The Cougar on the mag cover is a GTE and would have come with a hyd cam, center oiler 427.

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http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/atta...e-100_0039.jpg

http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/atta...ite-gte427.jpg

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Um I see two 4 bbls. in that pic of a very stock looking Cougar. Dealer installed?

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Can anyone here explain this factory photo...look at date stamped on it.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/5...l/68-427-e.jpg

Re: What's New for 1968
 

From the look of the exhaust manifold it is the 427 hyd lifter 390 hp it was to be a option in the Mustang but someone figured out the rating was to high and they didn't make much more power than the 428 CJ's so the option was killed the CJ's were used. You can see its a 427 by the cross bolt mains. Look at the row of 3 bolts above the pan rail.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

I'm not a historical expert but as i understand it, Ford had plans for a 427 Mustang (W Code) and some even claim they built them as early as 67 but no one was has provided any proof. A 427 was more expensive to build than a 428 and didn't make any more power so the idea was dropped in favor of the 428. 1969 also got the Boss 429 as it's eye candy.

I'll post this on the FE Forum for some more informed answers.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Some early literature printed before the switch perhaps...

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3584/3...c41fc064_z.jpg

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Exactly..... It was a bean counter decision!

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Here's another '68 Cougar XR7 GTE...with dual quad carburetors.

http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/9...enger_Side.jpg

http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/9...+Front_End.jpg

http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/9...Engine_Bay.jpg

http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/9...e_Interior.jpg

http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/9...GTE+Emblem.jpg

http://www.mustangandfords.com/featu...gte/index.html

Re: What's New for 1968
 

According to the GTE registry, there were 357 427 cars built and only 37 late production 428's. All were automatics except for 3 pre-production 4 speeds. All were single 4's but it wouldn't be unusual for someone to switch to a 2x4 setup for the bling factor. Ford had a lot of good over the counter manifolds.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Car Craft also reports those same production numbers as well...so there were more 427's than 428 Cougars built in '68 then...and yes the 2x4 dual carb setup was an dealer option.

http://image.carcraft.com/f/featured...ront_angle.jpg

http://image.carcraft.com/f/featured...t-e+engine.jpg

http://image.carcraft.com/f/featured...e+interior.jpg

http://image.carcraft.com/f/featured..._gt-e+gt_e.jpg

http://www.carcraft.com/featuredvehi...t_e/index.html

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Re: What's New for 1968
 

Love these and the fender stripe was "just right".

http://glorene.com/auto/main/rocketrides/mscott68aa.jpg

http://glorene.com/auto/main/rocketr...cott68hood.jpg

http://glorene.com/auto/main/rocketr...68interior.jpg

http://glorene.com/auto/main/rocketrides/mscott68a.jpg

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Good work 'Gentleman' on the 1968 FoMoCo 427 Wedge.

I think all will agree,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they just didn't perform that well with the
Hydraulic Camshaft and 'too friggin heavy' connecting rods.

The 428 Cobra-Jet was the way to go,,,,,,,,,,,,and for less money too...

Re: What's New for 1968
 

When I took my 428scj to Lance to start on my motor, he shocked me by saying I would need some different rods. I said those were LeMans rods, he said they were too heavy. My block had a crack in the webbing, so I found a 64 T-Bird with a 428, bought it pulled the motor and sold the car. Sold the rods on EBay, came out pretty good.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

http://www.russoandsteele.com/vehicl...9211-large.jpg

SS427

http://www.russoandsteele.com/vehicl...7/29161/lg.jpg

Not the same one but a cool car anyway. Make mine a 4 speed.

http://www.plateshack.com/y2k/Florid...headlights.jpg

Re: What's New for 1968
 

1968 ad...

http://www.motionperformance.com/mot-ads/68m427-8.jpg

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Lemans rods aren't a whole lot heavier than most similar aftermarket. I know Eagles weigh almost the same and I'd rather have FoMoCo engineering inside than offshore unknown. Regular 428 rods would be lighter and work fine with aftermarket bolts. Both my 390 and 427 have stock rods and see a fair bit of RPM (7400). Lance knows what he's doing so I'm just stating my opinion.

There were no 428's in 64 or in T-birds until 66 so either you posted the wrong year or someone put that motor in.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Another '68 ad...

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3623/5...8bc3e9f6_z.jpg

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Yup... Very Cool and I'm a Ford guy!

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Here ya' are...428-4speed!!!
Hidden headlights and Magnum wheels

Cool Factor...10.

http://www.fordmuscle.com/pics/Mister68_DSC00409.JPG

Re: What's New for 1968
 

1968 Plymouth Sport Satellite

The 383 was available with 330 Horsepower,,,,,,,not 335 HP like the Road Runner.

Same engine block, cylinder heads, intake and Carter AVS carburetor, but with a 'milder hydraulic camshaft' and 'standard pressure valve springs'. The Road Runner engine had the 440 'Super Commando' camshaft, valve springs and exhaust manifolds.

Also, the Sport Satellite was about 150+ lbs. heavier than the 'bare bones' Road Runner.

In 1968, the 383/335 HP 'Road Runner' was classed in E/Stock, and the 383/330 HP' Sport Satellite' was classed in F/Stock.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2555/3...fa62f513_z.jpg

Re: What's New for 1968
 

You are correct. Memory fades when you own a car for 2 weeks just to pull the motor out. I had never met Lance and only spoken on the phone before my arrival. In the short time I spent with him I knew he would be more than capable of what he said and he did know the FE motor very well. This was what I needed.

Nice cars Charlie!! I think I remember seeing only one of those Chevies in my lifetime, the Ford, well I have seen a few more now.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

http://myoldadz.com/images/chevrolet19680329-2.jpg

http://www.seekcheaper.net/vintagema...s/DSC05954.jpg

Re: What's New for 1968
 

There were lots of big car muscles back in 68.
It didn't have to be a mid size to have stump pullin' torque!
Still lookin for a 68 Buick Wildcat (there is NO better name) GS picture if anyone can find it.
That was a large barge!
Lots of pics on google but can't find a GS.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

I have a muscle car, daily calender in my office. (doesn't everyone?)
Today's picture...68 Plymouth Hemi GTX convertible.

As a high school kid I worked in the body shop of a Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge dealer after school and saturday.
When the owner was gone.... we all took a test drive or two in what was on the lot. Satellites, Charger SE's and Coronets were some fast cars with the right engines.
Then there was this one 4 speed Hemi Super Bee ... we could NEVER find the key to it.
Somehow I think the owner knew.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

The trick on the LeMans rods was to use the special rod bols for the 427 NASCAR rods there is a Service bulletin on doing this change seem to remember it involved running a tap through the rod I know I have a copy of just GOTA find it. A lot of guys ran the PI rods with the 11/32 bolts.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

1968 Dodge Coronet 500

Same engine combination as its Mopar brother, the Plymouth Sport Satellite,,,,,,,,,,,,383/330 HP

1968 Dodge Coronet; Performance Engine Options;
Coronet (base model)...............383/330 HP
Coronet Deluxe..........................383/330 HP
Coronet Model 440...................383/330 HP
Coronet 500...............................383/330 HP
Coronet R/T...............................440/375 HP or 426 HEMI
Super Bee.................................383/335 HP or 426 HEMI

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODUzWDYyNg...(4w~~60_57.JPG

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Giambino,,,,,,,,

1968 Plymouth B-Body Engine Applications,,,,,,,,,

Belvedere..............383/330 HP
Satellite..................383/330 HP
Sport Satellite.......383/330 HP
GTX.......................440/375 HP or 426 HEMI
Road Runner........383/335 HP or 426 HEMI

The 383/335 HP, 440/375 HP or 426 HEMI were not available in the 'base' model Belvedere or Satellite's.

Re: What's New for 1968
 

Paul, but they were available in a few '68 base Dodge models that snuck out of the factory...