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I have seen both Skillman's and Butner's engines at Alan Pattersons' shop.
They have been seriously "touched".

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Bill's new black car was running the 3.91 gear it came with and so far is untouched according to Bill. Maybe he's not telling everything but I don't believe he was just blowing smoke either. Maybe it was the beer and Lime-A-Ritas talking but I think Bill was being straight.

Dennis Breeden

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OK we are the fastest V10 Drag Pak Challenger - for now - back to back 9.24s with 1.27 60fts using a 2 spd @3600 lbs in BB/SA - but we did not win so it is not that important - still feels good to pound our chest - the East coast guys seem to do it - I am just saying - we have worked very hard and changed plenty - it s nice to be rewarded - thank you God
Special thanks to Phil Mandella (PMR Race Cars) what a chassis wizard - Matt Dean at GLENDORA DODGE CHRYSLER JEEP and G.E.M. and Robert at Hoosier Tire West for there support as well - we are blessed and thankful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hBSSH_JRmg

We will test the 3spd soon in SS in case we really are going to get it in JAN

Ron

Come on - you got to admit - it does not leave like a "school bus"

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Congratulations!! Hard work really does pay off in the end. It feels so much better when everything finally comes together!

Drop a 125# off that rocket and come to Indy. ;) I understand the drive that would be the killer.

Looking forward to seeing how the 3speed will work out after testing and tuning it it.

Once again congrats!

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Joseph,
What happened to the SCS?
Do you not like how your car fits those rules either?
Would a 3 speed help you attend those races that you were so passionate about earlier this year?

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well here we go again, hagen you dont know crap about the original arrangements that were made for scs. It was that all cars participating would be able to run a 3 speed. Well as im sure we all know the mustangs were and we were not. We ran the first race as is and we know the out come. We did send one of our cars to two more races after that just to support the class. After we were told that we would not be able to run the 3 speed there was no need to continue racing once none of the mopar's even made it to the semi much less a final round in 3 races. But i know you are smarter than me so im sure you would be still racing in it. But just like me, as you stated in an older post, you are spoiled and you dont own your car so if the owner pulls the plug on the operation then you dont go. Its funny how you ripped me in the last post only for me to find out that dont own the cars you drive and that you have gained everything from your father. But once again, i guess since you fought for this country thats ok. I am still passionate about racing scs but lets be real we can not run with the cj as we stand. Do i think a 3 speed would help....thats a stupid question.

And one last thing great race at no problem!

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I appologize for the bragging - I know there are others already spending money we can not but we will keep looking for the best things to change before doing a deep dive on the engine and what not

Being the fastest is always short lived

We are realizing in these new cars with the new classes - it is about absolute ET - not how far under we can run based on our AHFS horse power

It does seem to be sorting itself out

Soon it will be the same old game - the more you spend the faster you can go - been true as long as I can remember


Ron

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ok ok ok it all make's sense, now i understand where your delusion i mean confusion comes from..............just saying

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and what class do you run??

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All I did was ask the question so that I might be informed, and this is how you respond?
Believe it or not, everyone doesn’t live their lives through your eyes. I wanted to hear your reasoning for not participating anymore, not from hearsay. Your response is just as predicted in this thread.
http://www.classracer.com/classforum...highlight=adrl
But I got called all sorts of inflammatory names in it because of my opinion on the matter. Turns out I was right… so far.
Please reread the last thread slower. I didn't call or mean to imply that you were spoiled from your father, YOU did that. I said you are acting like a spoiled little boy because somebody didn't agree with your stance and you start bleeding and throwing names around. Do you see a common theme here? Yes, My Father funds the operation, so how can I call you spoiled in the manner you believe I did if I’m in the same boat? Only difference is, I win enough to break even most years. How about yourself? I explained this in the last thread.
When I met you in Belle Rose, you didn't offer your response to not participating in ADRL anymore when I prompted you to, so I just wanted to hear it now. You’re Way out of line here, and you might or might not be getting a 3 speed, but you’re definitely getting a tune up this year.

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I GUESS YOU JUST ASK QUESTIONS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN I WOULD.

"You, spoiled little boy" QUOTE HAGEN GARY
I GUESS I TOOK THAT THE WRONG WAY AS WELL.

IN BELLE ROSE I TOLD YOU THAT WE DID SEND OUR CARS UP THE COUNTRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE CARS THAT COULD ATTEND AND THAT WE WOULD TRY TO MAKE A COUPLE MORE EVENTS. THATS STILL THE PLANS!

YEA YOU THE MAN HAGEN YOU WON.........2 RACES I BELIEVE? YES THATS MORE THAN I HAVE! CONGRATS! I WORK AND MAKE ENOUGH MONEY SO THAT I CAN RACE AND THAT MY RACING DOESNT DEPEND ON MY WINNINGS. BUT HEY, YES SIR YOU HAVE ME ON THAT ONE! BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET INTO THAT, I HAVE BEAT YOU! SO I GUESS THATS ONE UP FOR ME.

HAGEN I REALLY HAVE NOT MUCH MORE TO SAY TO YOU. WE CAN JUST PROVE POINTS ON THE TRACK.

OH YEA JUST ONE MORE THING, SO IF WE DO OR DONT GET THE 3 SPEED; WHERE ARE AM I GETTING A TUNE UP FROM??

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I don't like the idea of blower cars in stock. Seems like NHRA just adds another letter and creates a new class for them instead of bumping them out of stock. Look for AAAAA/SA next year!

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Hey--Jeff ,I got in on this one a little late--we have been writing letters for years to be allowed to have a 3 speed and to DEAF ears--if these new cars get to run them it CLEARLY shows a there is nothing FAIR about NHRA or the way they treat racers--I have lived with what R J / Wesley said that you build a combination and you live with it ! And this silly childish attitude that all you have to do is ask and you shall recieve --like NHRA has nothing else on its plate and sets around waiting for the TUETONS to call to recieve their marching orders--it would be a little refreshing for the players to keep there political moves off the internet and then just plain racers would not know how much behind the closed doors really goes on-- and they wonder why some guys dont show up as much as they use to??--and as the title of this post ,should the mopars get a 3 speed--get in line behind the guys that have been asking for years ,when you turn comes up be thank full,--later--Emmett

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Should the Mopar V10 DragPak get a 3speed? YES!!

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You want some cheese with that whine? Get over it. There are all kinds of blower cars on the street. Turbo's too for that matter.
Chuck

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No. Unless every other S/SS car gets a non-OEM transmission of their choice as well.

And they already have a class for that. It's called "bracket racing".

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How dare you.

The voice of reason shall not be heard.






:D

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So as long as Mopar has a 3 speed in production with a part number it would be ok? Or is everyone not ok with the 2008-10 CJ's have a 3speed as well?

I'm just trying to figure out if it's Mopar people don't like or just the theory of the new cars having drivetrains they shouldn't.

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Ya know Joe, it seems to me that you all have gotten pretty much what you wanted from the beginning of this whole darned thing. So with that being said, who decided that the V10 cars didn't need a 3 speed to begin with? I think that you should go and ask him why he decided to NOT submit the right paperwork, fire him, and drag him behind a Ram truck. Oh and live with what you've been given.

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I have zero issue with it being a Mopar or Ford. I am not brand loyal other than we have a chitload of GM spare parts which makes it cheaper to run some form of GM product.

It is all centered around the unrealistic drive train that is being passed off as "stock eliminator" worthy, IMHO.

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You can bet that's exactly what will happen with the 2013 model. Simply update (maybe nothing to change) and drive away with a new car, new transmission and improved performance capabilities. (And maybe a new index as well.)

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Billy I guess you are right. Did I believe that it was such a sore subject, not really. On the reasoning behind the 3speed, if I had to guess, MOPAR went off of the original CJ's with the 2speed. So we were even, then the CJ's were avaliable with a 3speed and started really flying. So we went to our factory rep as well as NHRA and ask for a 3speed as well but were shut down. So hince that is why I was asking what fellow racers opinions were on the matter. Trust me I am living with what I've been giving. I've been luck enough to have been racing for 16 years now and I'm very happy where I am now. I have been racing the 2speed since it came out, with a BIG smile. I would just like to step up and play with the CJ's and I believe that a 3speed would help that step.

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The original CJs had 3 speeds. The only CJs that Ford put a 2 speed in were the big blower 4.0L SS only cars.

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Joseph, if you could buy the car, as is, with a three-speed, I would have no problem.

If the car came, as is, with a two-speed only, sorry, that's what your stuck with.

NHRA gave in, in S/S, a few years ago and allowed cars that came with only a two-speed automatic, to run a three-speed; also allowed cars that had three speed manuals only, to now run a four speed stick (wasn't in favor of either--you knew going in what you could/couldn't have).

Who knows...in a few years, maybe Stock will be that way too. "Any corporate transmission is accepted".

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I don't believe that is correct. I believe they were all sold with a 2speed but a 3speed was being "developed" so it superseded the 2speed from the beginning

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First of all , no one makes an aftermarket case for a C 4 ,as far as I know.
Therefore , the brand new factory ringer Mustangs must have come with a junkyard trans core from the 70's
Do you guys realize how ludicrous , or I guess I should say how even MORE ludicrous this is?

At least the PG/ Powerflite/ Fordomatic/ Dedenbear/Reid equipped cars came with all new parts.

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http://jalopnik.com/5075921/2008-cob...-noise-at-sema

"The Cobra Jet gets a beefed up 5.4-liter V8 with a cold air intake, A/C delete, 9-inch rear end, a six speed manual or three speed auto, a roll hoop and a specialized suspension."

Mark, I know, it is ridiculous, I do not think they should be in stock eliminator at all. I was in Columbus looking at the Skillmans' new 2013 CJ and it's a really, really cool car, but I don't think it's a stocker.

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I am use to being ignored on this forum but no matter - I am enjoying this thread

However - I actually said it in one of my previous posts in this thread

NHRA tech already told me last week we will get the 3spd just probbaly not until the end of the year

Now let the whining really start

Joesph we won

Ron

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Congrats on the win, now you can concentrate on getting the blower. Maybe you can have it by...say....Indy 2013?

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LMAO! Good one Ron!


And yes MOPAR already have a plan for supercharged/blown 392. It wil be in all SRT vehicles. So yes that mean the challenger.

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What the heck, sure.......... give them a three speed And a blower!!

David
The New Hemi Guy

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I meant for the existing Mopar combos in the guide so they can be more competitive. Isn't that the push behind the 3 speed transmission for an existing combo?

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maybe they will give the 396s a blower also?????

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Don't have a dog in the fight, but I do watch the cars and keep tabs on them. Personally, I don't like the superseded parts, but this would hardly be the first time it's happened.

Ron and Joe -- what do you think a 3-speed is actually worth to your cars? Watched Ron's car go 1.27 in 60' @ Sonoma this past weekend with the front wheels 2" in the air. Can't leave much harder or cleaner than that. Obviously the gain doesn't necessarily come in the first 60', but I'm not seeing whatever gain there is being worth enough to compete with the CJ's.

BTW, Joe, the Stock Eliminator CJ's have had 3-speeds in them since Day 1 -- the '08 model. In 2010, Ford debuted the Super CJ with the 2-speed. The 2-speed may now be available in the CJ, but they've always had 3-speeds.

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I think you meant 2' (feet) but no matter I posted the video

We don't know what it will do - we will be testing in SS until it is legal for STK

I think 4 or 5 hundredths and your assessment is right on about suddenly making us competitive with the CJs

The weight breaks will only work so long and then "Whoosh" there goes the CJs

Are we going to see you Friday?

Ron

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Yes Anthony, I'll have a 2004 Napa cab with some Monterrey Jack. 68 degrees on the cab please. IMHO

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Put a stick in it. Then the 2-speed vs. 3-speed issue goes away.

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X 1000...Luke SS 311

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Have to wonder what rocket scientist at Chrysler submitted it with a Powerglide in the first place. Fool.

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I did mean 2' and I wish I could be there tomorrow, but unfortunately duty calls. Good luck.