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mopar68 05-20-2013 06:39 PM

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http://imageshack.us/a/img585/8985/d...cuda69indy.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/4154/dongrotheer.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img18/7995/dongrotheer2.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img46/8421/kenmontgomery.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img801/116/checkmated.jpg

M68

Liteweight 05-21-2013 12:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Emiro (Post 381949)
I just joined this forum. I still have the Barracuda and planning to go to the reunion in August in Ohio. See Jeff Johnson Motorsports for details.

Excellant
we'll see you there. Hey, maybe we can get a drive into town with our 2 "street cars" for some icecream.They'll shake some dust off of the buildings downtown & make for some very interesting pictures & conversation

liteweight

GRAPE 05-22-2013 08:58 AM

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Here is a link to info on Clayton Wright's Slo Motion
http://freerevs.com/car/286315

blakkmaxx 05-22-2013 09:47 AM

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The car in question in post #73 the jerrys automotive barracuda is the David Heath driven car owned by Dr. William Pearson of Owensboro ky. . David died of cancer in the early 70's. The car was sold to Paul Lance of Boonville indiana. Since then i have no idea where it ended up. The car was painted purple at the time of purchase and i thin it came out of Georgia and it was an original factory car.

Charlie A 05-22-2013 05:20 PM

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ps7ac1bb80.jpg

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...8&d=1333936208

Charlie A 05-22-2013 05:31 PM

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Because this picture belongs in this topic:

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2183/pa200187.jpg

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/6059/pa260015.jpg

Charlie A 05-22-2013 05:39 PM

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A lot of these buried in the Hemi Dart topic.
This one I don't believe was ever identified-who's-real or garage built?

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...n/IMG_0015.jpg

Skypower 05-22-2013 08:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 382680)
Because this picture belongs in this topic:

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2183/pa200187.jpg

Does anyone know if this was the result of a fire. Looks like it but the cars look like the were placed there after fire. Kind of confusing.

bigsixman 05-22-2013 09:23 PM

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I would sure like to know the details of the picture showing the vette and the dart. It appears to be a shame that this happened to these two cars.

Charlie A 05-22-2013 09:30 PM

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Concerning the BO29 in the falling down garage. From post #506 in the Hemi Dart topic:

From an email I received from then new owner of Dave's 'Cuda:

Saturday, February 5, 2005 9:52 PM

Just got back from NJ yesterday -- left on Monday from Ne. and got
back Fri. 8:00 AM.

While we were picking-up a 68 Cuda that I purchased, I took some pics of a 1968 AMX and a 69 Charger -- both ol' race cars. Thought I'd post them in case anyone recognized them. They've been there a LONG time. I'll post the Charger next -- Reed in Ne.

Here's a shot of what happens when the owner doesn't take care of building maintenance !!

The 67 Vette was a 427 tri-power/ 4-speed // the 68 SS Cuda is now here in my shop in Nebraska. It was Dave Wren's FIRST SS Cuda - been in this building since late 1969 after the owner bought the body from Sox & Martin. If you look in the S&M book at the picture inside their shop of the SuperBird, the Wren Cuda is right next to the Bird -- the original fenders and hood are still the that orange paint scheme and match the the Cuda in the picture.

Its a ruff car in some ways but has a lot of good points such as 90% of the TUFF to find parts are with the car. I have most of the engine parts here already incl. NOS carbs, etc. I already bought another body to chop so we can reskin the roof and quarters.
I'll post more later -- Thanks, Reed in Ne.

Back on page 59(Hemi Dart topic) I think is where you will find some of the story.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9277/p1270074.jpg
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9069/p1270075.jpg

Charlie A 05-22-2013 09:50 PM

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A "Razorback" Hemi.....

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...20747_hale.jpg

bob george 05-23-2013 07:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 382681)
A lot of these buried in the Hemi Dart topic.
This one I don't believe was ever identified-who's-real or garage built?

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...n/IMG_0015.jpg

That's the original Scooten Cuda,then Paul Lance,then Bob Stape now owned by a BGR member and is in our stable at the "Bat Cave" with my LO Dart.

Charlie A 05-23-2013 07:51 AM

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Thank you sir. Another "mystery" solved.

bob george 05-23-2013 10:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 382744)
Thank you sir. Another "mystery" solved.

Jerry McClure was the original owner of the Scootin Cuda.

Skypower 05-23-2013 12:43 PM

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Thanks Bob
Its great to see some of you guys in the know about these cars comming here and posting. I think the word is getting out about this thread, Hopefully we will be able to sort out the truth and real history from the myths.

Thanks again for your help and by all means keep posting.:)

Bob
skypower

Paul Ceasrine 05-23-2013 01:33 PM

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Wiley Cossey (California, 1968 Photo)

http://dragnut.smugmug.com/Magazine-...20Cossey-M.jpg

Charlie A 05-23-2013 10:52 PM

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http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...ddin2/br-1.jpg

Charlie A 05-24-2013 07:46 AM

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http://www.firebirdonline.com/blast_...TP11_17_11.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 05-24-2013 09:42 AM

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Terry Moore and Larry Fors........ (Port Orchard, Washington)

http://www.firebirdonline.com/blast_...TP11_17_11.jpg

mopar68 06-06-2013 01:07 AM

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Ex-Billy The KId 'Cuda.

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6...thekidcuda.jpg

M68

ss wannabee 06-06-2013 09:10 AM

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M68,

The black car in #79...(#1609-SS/A)...might be Centolanza..BUT it looks an
AWFUL lot like George Baptiste's car..out of the NY area....

Think he's had it a long time...and I saw it run just a few years back...is he still
running it?

mopar68 06-06-2013 06:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ss wannabee (Post 384969)
M68,

The black car in #79...(#1609-SS/A)...might be Centolanza..BUT it looks an
AWFUL lot like George Baptiste's car..out of the NY area....

Think he's had it a long time...and I saw it run just a few years back...is he still
running it?

It does look like George's car but it's not. Yes, he has had it a long time. I spoke with him circa 1991 at Mopars at Englistown show and he told me (and a buddy of mine) he was in the process of building a SS/A Barracuda. It's a damn shame he decided to modify an uncut original car. It was so original that Chrysler (Chrysler Historical Society?) wanted to buy it from him but he declined. Bad move, in my opinion, for Chrysler would'be paid top dollar for the car and with that money George could've built a clone and bought several Ray Barton Hemi engines for what he would have gotten money-wise from the sale. More important than that, an uncut original car, a rare piece of automotive history, would've been preserved.

Here's a photo I took of George in the pits at Raceway Park in the mid-1990s along with similar comments in a post I made in the Hemi Dart thread back in 2009:

http://www.classracer.com/classforum...4&postcount=89

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopar68 (Post 142594)
George Baptiste bought an original UNCUT '68 Hurst Hemi Barracuda from some street racer-type who ran afoul of the law and (unfortunately) cut it up into a race car back in the very early 1990s.

The car was purchased from someone in the northern New Jersey area. It saw very limited strip action (and possibly street?) and sat for years until George found out about it and purchased it sometime in the 1980s. From what I was told, the 'Cuda was so original Chrysler Corp. offered to purchase the car back but George declined.

I am only relating what I was told about 18 years ago and cannot verify this story's accuracy.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/465...gebaptiste.jpg

Btw, is George still around? I'd like to hear the story from him!

M68

I haven't seen or spoke to George since the 1990s. I have no idea if he's still racing or not.

M68

James Perrone 06-06-2013 07:17 PM

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Saw George at Shakedown at Etown 2 years ago said he still has the car and it is gonna be his nephews.Still a sharp guy .

mopar68 06-06-2013 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 385082)
Saw George at Shakedown at Etown 2 years ago said he still has the car and it is gonna be his nephews.Still a sharp guy .

Nice to know George is still around. Thanks for the update. Btw, his nephew is the guy in the turqoise t-shirt leaning over the engine compartment. This same nephew used to drive his uncle's similar black and 4-speed 1969 440 Six Barrel Road Runner that George bought brand new in 1969.

M68

ss wannabee 06-07-2013 09:47 AM

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Wow...that's an interesting story on George and his car(s)! I last saw him run the
Cuda in SS maybe 6-8-10 yrs ago...I dunno?

Got a couple questions relating to BO29's...they were probably discussed some-
where on here...but I don't have time to dig them out...and these are probably
well-known by the MOPAR NATION.....

1.) If the original plan by Chrysler Corp. was 50 Cudas/ 50 Darts sent to Hurst...
just how many BO29's ended up being built by Hurst? Is the exact number
UNKNOWN?

I see your research...on the original owners...in that post a while back...could
the number of REAL Hurst-produced BO29's be possibly close to 80?


2.) Any guess on how many UNCUT Hurst BO29's exist TODAY?


3.) There was no other company involved in building BO29's...right?

Liteweight 06-07-2013 10:05 AM

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ss wannabe
1) There were 2 runs made of the LO & BO cars. The first runs were 50 each to meet NHRA's mandate. Then Chrysler had a strike, but the orders kept coming in for them. Once Chrysler got back on line they closed the orders & completed the orders they had on hand. The general acceppted total numbers were 70 barracuda's & 80 darts

2) Uncut Barracuda's----very few. I know of only 2,but I'm sure there are a few more.

3) You are correct. Hurst was the only company that was commission by Chrysler to build these race cars.

liteweight

Paul Ceasrine 06-07-2013 01:02 PM

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Daryl and SS Wannabe,

I think I posted the Original Chrysler Press Release, where the
original plan was to build a few more LO23 Dart's than BO29 Barracuda's.

I believe it was 60 Darts and 50 Barracuda's.

The NHRA originally accepted that number to qualify for
Super Stock, providing that all the cars were in the hands of Drag Racers, and not sitting at Hurst.

Once the Magazine's hit the stands in April 1968 with
photo's of the Test Mule {Barracuda}, and next Sox & Martin, and
followed by Dick Landy -

All hell broke loose........:D

bigcam 06-07-2013 03:47 PM

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I believe there is an uncut car in South Central Pa. Possibly in the care and custody of the original owner.

Paul Ceasrine 06-07-2013 06:27 PM

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Read Post #896 in the Original Hemi Dart thread

January 15, 1968 Chrysler Press Release

Plans to build '60' Hemi Darts. { '35' Automatic and '25' Manual }

And '50' Barracuda's { '30' Automatic and '20' Manual }

john oliverio 06-08-2013 10:13 AM

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How about the Carpinett brothers car

Paul Ceasrine 06-10-2013 10:13 PM

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Ed Miller {Rochester, New York}

http://www.supercar1.com/catalog/images/50927real4.jpg

64 B-body 06-20-2013 09:05 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
A friend of mine just bought Rich Thomas's Hemi cuda

Paul Ceasrine 06-21-2013 05:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 385202)
Read Post #896 in the Original Hemi Dart thread

January 15, 1968 Chrysler Press Release

Plans to build '60' Hemi Darts. { '35' Automatic and '25' Manual }

And '50' Barracuda's { '30' Automatic and '20' Manual }

Original Plan from January 1968

Charlie A 06-21-2013 08:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 64 B-body (Post 387396)
A friend of mine just bought Rich Thomas's Hemi cuda

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...2&d=1371776557

mopar68 06-21-2013 03:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 64 B-body (Post 387396)
A friend of mine just bought Rich Thomas's Hemi cuda

Lucky friend. :)

http://www.quartermilestones.com/pho...2/RMAA6903.jpg

M68

Super Wedge Joe 06-21-2013 05:27 PM

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Just spoke to Bob Carpinet. He's in the process of restoring the cuda back to as last raced in I believe late 70's. I gave him this site info & told him he should register & log on. He is going to e/m me some current pics, and I'll attempt to post them when received.

Paul Precht 06-21-2013 09:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Wedge Joe (Post 387506)
Just spoke to Bob Carpinet. He's in the process of restoring the cuda back to as last raced in I believe late 70's. I gave him this site info & told him he should register & log on. He is going to e/m me some current pics, and I'll attempt to post them when received.

A friend of one of my employees has this car in his shop, he told me about it last winter and I didn't believe him until he showed me some pics he took of it.

duster 06-21-2013 11:40 PM

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4 Attachment(s)
Rich Thomas's cuda as it sits today. I don't believe he owned two cars, but I could be wrong..

ssaahemifan 06-22-2013 08:06 PM

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I was fortunate to catch this car at the mopar nats years ago... by far the most uncut barracuda I have ever seen

Never wanted to buy a car so bad in my life !!!

Skypower 06-22-2013 10:35 PM

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Very cool would be great to get another owner posting here.


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