Originally Posted by Hudlow66 (Post 397873)

Im in the same boat as many. I heard the rule come up and figured Id be able to come up with something that would work really nice for my application, since Ive got two cars with slip-together style headers. Is the process to get something accepted on the NHRA site?

Originally Posted by chevy620 (Post 397909)

It is about NHRA-approved.
My feelings are clear on this whole deal:
If we have to tether headers collectors which evidently are flying off at an alarming rate (never seen it in 25 years of racing and 15 years owning tracks) they BETTER be adding -
Wheel tethers,
steering wheel tethers,
lug nut tethers,
Fuel cell tethers,
battery tethers,
hood and hood scoop tethers
rear end housing tethers,

WHERE would the TETHER RULE END? or should it ever end?

Never have I seen a more stupid rule.

Jok

Originally Posted by Dinsdale (Post 398066)

Agree 1000%.. and why does this non life saving piece of scrap need to be SFI?

Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 397517)

I'm just curious.....do you need tethers on an eight mile bracket car?

Originally Posted by A56 (Post 398185)

I have had a meeting with Danny Gracia this past week at Indy. We have talked a few times previously, and NHRA tech along with other header fabricators input have come up with some ideas and I believe have come up with a final solution which should be in writing very very soon.
To begin this rule is absolutly nessesary, there have been lots of incidents and people have been seriously hurt. NHRA has to cover there butts from further incidents, and keep racers from getting hurt in the future. I believe this is a good rule, and now that simple collector retention devises have been thought of, it will be simple and inexpensive for each one of us to install.
The Lokar Collector Tether and the Tether previously mentioned are not going to be the final requirement, im sure you can use that type of system, it will be very effective, but the cost will be to high. Believe it or not, NHRA does not want each of us racers to have to buy a tether system that costs that much. They also dont want us running to Home Depot and fabricating something out of low grade materials. Again, this tether system will work great, and it will be approved for those that have already purchased it.
What has been proposed and is pretty much is a simple wing tab kit with a nut and bolt. Originally I had proposed this with a lock nut, but it was rejected due to the fact that the lock nut could fall off. What has been decided on is to use the wing tabs and a nice aircraft bolt with possibly a castle style nut and a cotter key. This system will be in addition to our already existing spring tabs or A/B collector tabs. The actual Bolt / Nut / Cotter Key has not been decided on. I dont know if it will be a 1/4", if it will be a castle style, and what the clip or cotter key will have to look like. But what I do know is that it will be simple and inexpensive.
NHRA was actaully great to work with on this situation. They just want something simple, safe, and inexpensive for us racers. So dont go jump the gun on buying parts just yet. Give this all a little while till we see it in writing. I will be stocking all the parts needed for the fix, but not until its in writing. I think once its all said and done well have a solution to our problem for 30 to 40 bucks using stainless tabs and aircraft hardware.

Mark Lelchook
D/ED F/SA

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 396802)

Bottomline is collector tethers are required as of 2014 and until someone else comes up with an NHRA accepted solution as well cheaper solution, you will be buying these tethers or welding your collectors.

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 396849)

I have yet to read one post where a racer has stated he is going to invest his time and money to produce another solution, get it approved by the NHRA and sell it cheaper than the current solution.

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 398197)

Bravo! An informative post from a racer who is doing something other than complaining, speaking to the NHRA and trying to come up with a cost effective and approved solution.

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 398256)

why would turn my rocket into a turd to race on a junk track for peanuts and be treated like sh_t by the sanctioning body?

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 398261)

I'm at Numidia Dragway every weekend from April through October, anytime you're feeling luckly, show up and put a number on the window just like you do in super stock!:p

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 398261)

I'm at Numidia Dragway every weekend from April through October, anytime you're feeling luckly, show up and put a number on the window just like you do in super stock!:p

Originally Posted by A56 (Post 398185)

What has been proposed and is pretty much is a simple wing tab kit with a nut and bolt. Originally I had proposed this with a lock nut, but it was rejected due to the fact that the lock nut could fall off. What has been decided on is to use the wing tabs and a nice aircraft bolt with possibly a castle style nut and a cotter key. This system will be in addition to our already existing spring tabs or A/B collector tabs. The actual Bolt / Nut / Cotter Key has not been decided on. I dont know if it will be a 1/4", if it will be a castle style, and what the clip or cotter key will have to look like. But what I do know is that it will be simple and inexpensive.

Mark Lelchook
D/ED F/SA

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 398261)

I'm at Numidia Dragway every weekend from April through October, anytime you're feeling luckly, show up and put a number on the window just like you do in super stock!:p

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 398285)

I'm surprised steel self locking nuts aren't accepted. The recip airplanes (that's how old I am) that I used to work on used them to hold the exhaust on. Silver plated. I still have some. Our collectors don't get as hot, nor nearly as long as the header pipes did at the jugs on those engines (P&W 4360s). I have them on my car, have never had one loosen. Had castle nuts & keys a lot of places, but not at the jugs. I will probably just tig weld mine.

Originally Posted by A56 (Post 398185)

I have had a meeting with Danny Gracia this past week at Indy. We have talked a few times previously, and NHRA tech along with other header fabricators input have come up with some ideas and I believe have come up with a final solution which should be in writing very very soon.
To begin this rule is absolutly nessesary, there have been lots of incidents and people have been seriously hurt. NHRA has to cover there butts from further incidents, and keep racers from getting hurt in the future. I believe this is a good rule, and now that simple collector retention devises have been thought of, it will be simple and inexpensive for each one of us to install.
Mark Lelchook
D/ED F/SA

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 398236)

buzzinhalfdozen aka class racer's resident moron, I mean "master tech" continues to try and entertain us.

Originally Posted by cicero819 (Post 398294)

Joe Buchanan SS/BX 3117 has forgotten more about drag racing then you will possibly accumulate in your lifetimel

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 398256)

why would turn my rocket into a turd to race on a junk track for peanuts and be treated like sh_t by the sanctioning body?

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 398328)

I guarantee you that is not the case! You have no idea who I am or what my experience is.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 398355)

How ya doing in the points, Mr Wonderful?

Originally Posted by Pedigo Perf (Post 398365)

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Sorry Ed couldn't resist

Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 398368)

I can't find any points for Ed Bigley, even at the track that he claims to bracker race at every week....So whatever Ed has is more than the other Ed (unless I am wrong), and done in NHRA competition, not at some outlaw, run what ya brung stuff. LOL

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 398261)

I'm at Numidia Dragway every weekend from April through October, anytime you're feeling luckly, show up and put a number on the window just like you do in super stock!:p