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Gene Daugherty 11-17-2013 09:48 PM

Re: OLD Modified Corvettes
 
Love the videos - would like to see more videos of the old Super Stock and Modified cars, if anyone has some to share.

The audio really brings back memories!

Don Sofranko 11-17-2013 11:26 PM

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All
Would it be out of the scope of modified vettes, to show Vinny vs. Kopp at Indy in 1990?
I have this video with Vinny B.... rolling into the water, in the semi's that is eargasstic!

Don

vette1 11-18-2013 08:52 PM

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Modified and corvettes are my love of drag racing . But modified is in a class by it self. More videos and pictures.... Please.

vette1 11-18-2013 08:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gene Daugherty (Post 409256)
Love the videos - would like to see more videos of the old Super Stock and Modified cars, if anyone has some to share.

The audio really brings back memories!

Did you or your brother have an old modified or super stock corvette? Black with some red or maroon on it.. Thanks JB

vette1 11-18-2013 08:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 409103)
Martinez and Barth had yellow 64 or 65 vette fast car for the time hard working guys they were from new York.

Do you know where the car is today? If so we all like to know and see before and now pictures !!!! Thanks JB

Dennis P Chapman 11-19-2013 01:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vette1 (Post 409395)
Do you know where the car is today? If so we all like to know and see before and now pictures !!!! Thanks JB

JB..........Don't know what happen to it I would like to know too.

Don Sofranko 11-19-2013 02:21 AM

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Its your lucky day.... Vinny Barone and Craig Liberty matchup.
Plus a modified car won Indy SS in 1990.... (grrrr... automatic car)

https://youtu.be/plWUWZAE-PQ

mopacltd 12-05-2013 01:15 PM

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Love all the CHECKMATE cars. Paul could make those things fly!

Dick Butler 12-05-2013 02:10 PM

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Anyone interested in making a return of Modified?

vette1 12-05-2013 03:17 PM

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YES YES Please bring back MODIFIED!!!!!!!

vette1 12-05-2013 03:26 PM

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NHRA and IHRA should really think about it. In NHRA if you go to the track and there are no sportsman cars then at most only 60 or so total pro cars. Ihra has pro cars but they like the sportsman cars. Just Saying...

Geerhead55 12-05-2013 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler (Post 411283)
Anyone interested in making a return of Modified?

What did you have in mind,,Dick?
Danny Durham

randy wilson 12-05-2013 09:32 PM

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Is it finally time for no break-out econo mod? I'd reverse my retirement, and hit it hard.

SSDA Hemi 12-06-2013 08:13 AM

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"Sponge Bob" Brinkman SS/CM

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps1e275cce.jpg

Ed Wright 12-06-2013 09:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDA Hemi (Post 411370)

Where is the Like button?? That is beautiful!

vette1 12-06-2013 09:38 AM

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Speechless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it is a corvette

joespanova 12-06-2013 09:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vette1 (Post 409392)
Modified and corvettes are my love of drag racing . But modified is in a class by it self. More videos and pictures.... Please.

I always loved the Corvettes in Modified..........modified is what inspired me to build this Nova. Mercure's Camaro etc ,........ cars like that.
mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l3WxrHNIHA

Dick Butler 12-06-2013 10:09 AM

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Super Mod designated carb, LB/CU IN. wt break, only class legal SS chassis. (No FWD conversions)Stick or Trans Brake (No exotic trans). Even better would be SEALED Block and Heads from GM as Round track motor.
This is a FLAT playing field bring your own old , non competitive SS car and have cheaper Fun..

tj310 12-06-2013 10:18 AM

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63 coupe >Martinez and Barth >? Blevins > ?Toronto 78 ish. I think I know where the car is now but not sure of the lineage. ---Trevor

vette1 12-06-2013 11:24 AM

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I have been E-Mailing NHRA to think about add Modified back into there classes..Tons of fans , cars , clubs and interest in this class.

Geerhead55 12-06-2013 11:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler (Post 411390)
Super Mod designated carb, LB/CU IN. wt break, only class legal SS chassis. (No FWD conversions)Stick or Trans Brake (No exotic trans). Even better would be SEALED Block and Heads from GM as Round track motor.
This is a FLAT playing field bring your own old , non competitive SS car and have cheaper Fun..

Would a year limit on body style be acceptable?,,,say,,pre 1980?
Just thinking out loud.
Danny Durham

randy wilson 12-06-2013 12:00 PM

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Brodix spec head is the answer. No one's going to watch a sealed crate motor class. And the answer is let Brodix make the call on legality. Takes all cutting, and pasting out of the equation. Works in roundy-round. And lets all compete. They already have mopar, ford, and chevy heads. Limit it to a single disc clutch, no computers, no vac, internal pump only, cast intake, no external mods, etc. Heads may be angle milled, and combustion chamber polishing only. Saves pulling the head. Makes tear downs easier. Also, make everyone actually clutch, and shift their transmission.

Dick Butler 12-06-2013 01:48 PM

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Guys I want it as SIMPLE and inexpensive as possible if it were done. Bordix heads okay here but expense? No sheet metal intakes. Need to think Auto trans also to appeal to more RACERS first then spectators will have a bigger show early in development.
Pre 80s good too. Chevy II, Camaro, Mustang, Dart etc. early vettes.. No aluminum cars.
I still think trying to NOT label these as Crate motors helps acceptance. Mod Motors has a better ring to it.
Anyone going to PRI?

Mike Taylor 3601 12-06-2013 02:08 PM

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I think Randy is on to something,is that the rules you used when you ran the heads up class at your track? I see spec head as only way to run all brands together evenly.

I'll add transmission limit to 4 speed,cause 4 speed versions are less $ than 5's or could allow w/ use of 4 gears though, automatic rule I say prohibitted,LOL if allow auto run same as stick no weight break,maybe give weight break to stick so encourages stick shift use, as far as $'s go clutch shift stick setup single disc,bell,shifter, cost about same or less than auto setup trans,converter,shifter.
Reliability or cost of stick is no longer a problem.

I have friend telling me about NMRA NMCA coyote stock class, uses sealed Ford Racing Coyote crate engines,DOHC 32V 5.0 and sealed computer,cost
$ 6,000.00,10X26 tire rule bolt on suspension front and rear,no wheelie bars think is stick only.
Said they are running 10.30-10.60 range,high winding,I heard 9K ish good show.
Mike Taylor 3601

randy wilson 12-06-2013 02:14 PM

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Dick has some very good ideas. MUST keep it simple, affordable, and popular. Just an idea, but here goes. 72, and older, min. wt. 3,000, A,B,C, econo mod, A,B,C, econo altered, min. wt, 1,500lb A,B,C, econo gas, min. wt. 2300lb. A,B,C, econo FC, min. wt. 2,000lb. A,B,C. econo dragster. min. wt. 1,400lb. No break-out. 1\8th .10 per 1\2 lb. per cube, 1\4 mile,1.5 tenths per 1\2 lb. per cube. No carbon fiber, or titanium parts except drive shaft for safety issues. No wheelie bars. 12.5 spec slick. Stock cam size journal, and location, stock size lifter, stock deck ht. 750 cfm for engines 300 c.i. and under. 850 for 301 to 339, 950 for 340 to 383. No belt drives. Stud mounted rockers only except mopar. (Imagine what cam co. would do with that.) .700 lift at the valve max. A whole new eliminator that LOCAL tracks could afford to promote.

randy wilson 12-06-2013 02:18 PM

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Thanks Mike. Just as a thought. Our cobalt went 6.29, at 109.67 at 10.5lbs. That was our first year, and clutching every gear, with a single 10" rag. That computes to about a 9.89.Interesting to say the least. Buddy's dragster first couple weekends went 5.41. Capable of low 20's.

Dick Butler 12-06-2013 02:42 PM

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Randy we are all on the same page but I think limited numbers of classes to FORCE everyone to compete together not hide in another class. Three wt breaks good enough. Only Econo Mod... 750 carb, Brodix heads for all, same cubic inchs only car size or wt to separate them. Then the motors are all standard. Again Too many variables it becomes NHRA Flea circus again . One car for every class, ten cars for NONE.
Get it started with three classes and become a "THING" for tracks, events, THEN discuss needs for expansion. Remember we were talking about Mod class. No dragsters, No FC etc....
For chevy there is GM sealed motor, is there a Ford or Chrysler sealed program for the round track guys?

randy wilson 12-06-2013 03:31 PM

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Dick, I actually agree. I will run econo mod. Was just trying to include all who don't have old mod cars. You're right. We need to k.I.s.s. Keep it simple stupid.

randy wilson 12-06-2013 03:56 PM

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Yes Mike, rules are very similar.

Bobby Bennett 12-06-2013 06:03 PM

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https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/...22143376_n.jpg

Bobby Bennett 12-06-2013 06:06 PM

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https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/...34910489_n.jpg

Bobby Earnhardt, Spartanburg, SC 1979

Bobby Bennett 12-06-2013 06:09 PM

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https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/...12222720_n.jpg

Harold Bradey Corvette, later sold to Tim Freeman. This car was built in partnership with George McCorckle of the Marshall Tucker Band.

Bobby Bennett 12-06-2013 06:16 PM

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https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/...87356493_n.jpg

Strawberry Dixon F/Gas

Bobby Bennett 12-06-2013 06:19 PM

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https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/...86380486_n.jpg
Bob Earnhardt's Corvette a week before it burned to the ground.

Bobby Bennett 12-06-2013 06:21 PM

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https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/...96377952_n.jpg
Bradey dry-hopping at Spartanburg.

Bobby Bennett 12-06-2013 06:26 PM

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To my best knowledge Ben Trammel never had a Corvette. He had a Nova SS/F car. Olds Cutlass and as Beretta, which crashed.

Here's some Spartanburg Dragway footage, the primered Corvette is Strawberry Dixon. The multi-colored Vette is Dane Pearson, the same car he runs today.

The 55 Chevy Wagon is, believe it or not, Pro Mod racer Quain Stott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVX8D4Uml30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVX8D4Uml30

randy wilson 12-06-2013 06:43 PM

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Not to hyjack the post. That's already been done. Ha! The old corvettes would come out of the woodwork for this. This is directed to Dick. 3 classes are fine, These rules are basically the same as my track was for 3 years. We had to include certain things to get cars because we were in a limited area for exposure. So we let in clutchless, had to add 150 lbs. let in dry sumps, add 50 lbs. All had to run Brodix spec heads, and lesser heads if they preferred. Such as 292, 461x etc. Unported. Now, remember. We're in the middle of no where, so we had to improvise. I do know, after talking to Chris Paget at Comp, he said they would be all over this with cams etc. And, if it ever went, would want to throw one of their heads in the mix as an alternative, that matched, but did not exceed the flow numbers of the Brodix. Chris, and I actually raced against each other a lot at Bethany 100 years ago. Call him up, and ask him about it. He LOVES this type of racing. Also, ,4 tree ONLY. Trust me, it's way better for clean lights and good drivers. I used to be good, but haven't drove since 2005. Steve Thompson took over the driving chores after that, but I'd still take my chances. I just doubt it'll ever go. We had an average of 50 cars, and 500, to 800 people a weekend. Also, no sealed motors. Not good. Just well policed spec.

Dick Butler 12-06-2013 08:41 PM

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Allowing some of the specials you mention is great way to get them involved. Then publicize a schedule of when they would have to move to the basic rules. You know one month grace period, 3 races etc. Someway to "herd" all people to comply with basic rules sooner or later. Find a basic track to feature the racers with Big Voice support.
Would other company want to be involved? I believe Jesel would support too. Maybe World Products for basic Block. Get a few current 350 racers involved by only changing heads. Get some real excitement by Heads up winning and tuning.

Maybe ask friends for interest level?

randy wilson 12-07-2013 02:05 AM

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All very good points Dick. I'm glad you understand why we had to be a little more inclusive in small town U.S.A. But it did help that that track, as antique as it was, was a heads up track since 1966. A 350 cube, or there abouts, would be a fine starting point. As you know, I love the baby motors, but could adapt. No one would get exactly what they want, but there is a common goal. I believe a 350, at 3,000lbs. could run mid, to low nines, and 6.0'[s

Geerhead55 12-07-2013 03:09 AM

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The reason I mentioned 1980 and newer was affordability,, as the '72 and older bodies are getting into some pricey territory nowadays, unless you already own one.
Randy,, I'm curious why your racers were tied to Brodix heads, when there were other comparable brands also available, such as AFR, Edelbrock Victors, World, etc. Did somebody have a deal going? If the rules called for a spec head, couldn't they have gone with a runner limit, say a 200, or 220 as opposed to a particular brand? I guess I missed the point.
Danny Durham


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