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Joe DeMarzo 12-06-2013 04:34 PM

Re: G/SA Current Record
 
Hand Over Fist...I agree with you on both financial and senitmental value of the older cars.

Treekiller, most of the new FI cars are beautiful, happy to have them in stock and really glad to race them especially since most do not fit in G & H anymore.

The AHPS works though it takes time and is frustrating when you have to bring a knife to a gun fight. Been there before with the Firebirds when they were H cars and now the new cars.

BUT "that's racing".

Gary Parker 12-06-2013 04:41 PM

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Treekiller, show up with your car.......

treekiller 12-06-2013 04:52 PM

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Mass is a bit far for me but when you thaw your stuff out sometime in April or May come on down south and we'll meet up somewhere and see if we can make something happen. If we puttin dial ins on you might as well leave your trailer door down

Jim Kaekel 12-06-2013 05:02 PM

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[QUOTE=Evan Smith;411445]Why should it be a "right" to be competitive with an old race car when there is new, better technology available?

Evan: First of all, not everyone can afford a $100,000+ race car. Stock Eliminator wasn't intended to be "he with the most money wins"...it's not NMCA heads-up racing. The "better technology" argument doesn't fly.

Why has the NHRA accepted the bogus HP factors that the new cars came with from the get-go? How come the AHFS has worked at a "snail's pace" when it comes to these new cars? The answer to all of these questions is because the NHRA has simply let them. They are catering to big money.

treekiller 12-06-2013 05:07 PM

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By the way I love all the new cars however it is ridiculous to imply that everyone has the option to upgrade to these new cars and that this is the new wave and older cars can't be competitive because they can be when everybody is factored correctly. Listen you watch a national event sometimes the seats are empty even when the pros are running. The sport is not growing. My suggestion way back was made as just an idea how to get more cars in the pits and level the playing field while still allowing the guys who want to win the dikk swinging contest and say I got the fastest car to still have their fun.

Gary Parker 12-06-2013 05:07 PM

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I use my real name....and may be in Orlando in the spring
..

Joe DeMarzo 12-06-2013 05:10 PM

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Gary, take your meds... Let me know on Orlando, I may join you.

treekiller 12-06-2013 05:11 PM

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Gene schmaltz jr. Car 4928. 75 nova . Blue . We'll have to meet on your way down. Maybe in Georgia. When the weather is right my ****t will run 10.50s. Maybe we can do a lil heads up

Gary Parker 12-06-2013 05:17 PM

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sorry Joe.. you know how it is,,, never lost a race on the internet... checked his name on auto imagery.. nothing found.. must be a killer....lmao

Joe DeMarzo 12-06-2013 05:18 PM

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Ouch! If you go 10.50's that is smoking in our part of town. If not great sense of humor. How right does the weather have to be to go 10.50's in G/SA?????

Robert Simpson 12-06-2013 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by treekiller (Post 411476)
Gene schmaltz jr. Car 4928. 75 nova . Blue . We'll have to meet on your way down. Maybe in Georgia. When the weather is right my ****t will run 10.50s. Maybe we can do a lil heads up

Do you run "G" or "H"? That is bad fast. Pick Valdosta, good track.

Joe DeMarzo 12-06-2013 05:27 PM

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Probably at a test session, private track rental. We are talking quarter mile right, lol.

Ed Wright 12-06-2013 05:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by treekiller (Post 411476)
Gene schmaltz jr. Car 4928. 75 nova . Blue . We'll have to meet on your way down. Maybe in Georgia. When the weather is right my ****t will run 10.50s. Maybe we can do a lil heads up

Div 4 number? Is that an NHRA number? Why don't you use your real name?

treekiller 12-06-2013 05:29 PM

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Never been to a nat or div event before there big timer however there are a few high level stock racers at my track who I have traded punches with(on the track) that know who I am so I am confident I wouldn't be overmatched against you especially w a dial in. Come to no problem the week before the sportsnats for a bracket race. I'll wait for you by the fuel shed. I'll help you load your car up and feed you gumbo afterwards

treekiller 12-06-2013 05:32 PM

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Not an nhra number ed. Not a g/sa just a 75 nova w a 355. Steel heads nothing special. BRACKET RACER.

Darrin Christen 12-06-2013 05:34 PM

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Go ahead tree killer, convert that bracket car to a stocker and jump in with these gentlemen. Maybe you can show them how you got that screen name! The air gets really good at NPR! Lol

Ed Wright 12-06-2013 05:35 PM

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Why no real name??

If you don't have a legit Stocker or Super Stocker, why do you care if we have heads ups or not? Or even debate people in this section?

treekiller 12-06-2013 05:43 PM

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didn't know this was a Members Only section ed. My bad as I said earlier just a suggestion to get more people to the track. Car counts are down everywhere including no problem. Just told you my real name a few posts ago. Darren I kind of wish I could afford that but I enjoy going to the track and just putting on a battery charger in between rounds and checking gas and fuel pressure.

treekiller 12-06-2013 05:47 PM

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Meant to say tire pressure

James Perrone 12-06-2013 06:09 PM

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Tree killer why do we have to go south...WE WON THE WAR!!
Go back to yellow bullet and stir BS over there.
Now Gary about you guys setting the G/SA record. You and your Bro set the record everytime he qualifies..that thing should have a NASA sticker on the door.
Rocket fast.!!!.Joe you supervise teardown..hahahaha..Rember you too clumsy you may hurt yourself..lol

treekiller 12-06-2013 06:13 PM

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what is yellow bullet?

Todd Hoven 12-06-2013 07:55 PM

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Stoopid....., Go race pro et if you want the rules changed to no heads up


Quote:

Originally Posted by treekiller (Post 411402)
I have a solution which is gonna sound ignorant to the old school die hards who think having the fastest car in a certain class is the most important thing on the earth . I have heard the whole "There is pride in making your car run the fastest within a certain set of rules" blah blah blah. Eliminate heads up runs in eliminations. Make everyone have a dial in. I have never had it happen but can you imagine taking a week off of work to go to a national event , spending thousands to do it and going two or three rounds driving your ***** off and catching some cat in your class in the fourth rd w a 100,000 car who doesn't even have to look at the tree, he can just watch you leave and run you down before the 330 mark. Now I ask is this gonna make you say damn I gotta get in the garage and find some hp that ain't gonna be enough to make up the three or four tents the guy in the 100,000 car has on you or are you gonna say f it and go bracket racing where the field is a bit more level ? Let guys set records in time trials and tear them down or don't. It's just gonna be copos dps mustangs and the glasbrenners and I know that heads up finals are rare but doing it this way would almost always ensure that everyone has a fair shot and you will win or lose based on your driving that day not how much money you have.


Todd Hoven 12-06-2013 08:12 PM

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Can't wait to see the battle for the record in May. 10.60's in G from a 40+ year old car would be epic.


as for the killer

Quote:

Originally Posted by treekiller (Post 411486)
Not an nhra number ed. Not a g/sa just a 75 nova w a 355. Steel heads nothing special. BRACKET RACER.

Nobody is impressed with your steel head cement mixer technology race car. We didn't invite you or your opinion here. Nobody cares about it because you don't race with us or our rules. Other than at your home track, does anybody in the country know who you or car? Most likely not.

When you win the bracket finals or do something that stands out from the guys that you race with and against maybe you will become relevant. Until then you are a nobody in our world, and on this site. have a nice life.

Cdncarnut 12-06-2013 08:16 PM

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I would never have guessed that a simple question could have generated this type of discussion.

I want to make the move from Brackets to a Stocker and just needed a bit of info as the car I was going to look at did not have an extensive Class Racing history.

It has been very educational though.

Painter 12-06-2013 08:25 PM

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I think treekiller may have been parked way too close to the starting line. Baton Rouge may have been a better location. As for the testosterone fueled record claims for G/SA I may make this trip. The last time I called people out to set that record nobody else showed up. It was lonesome in Montgomery and I didn't even change oil or anything.

Joe DeMarzo 12-06-2013 09:42 PM

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Mad Hawaiian that why I suggested the food and drink, by the way I am healing nicely but could use your help changing the parker pan.

Painter I know you mentor Baily but please don't get us HP, lol

I say low 60's for G/SA in the spring, look out. Who is bringing their A game in addition to Parker?????

442OLDS 12-06-2013 09:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe DeMarzo (Post 411523)

I say low 60's for G/SA in the spring, look out. Who is bringing their A game in addition to Parker?????

I raced in G/SA this year at 4075 pounds minimum weight.

How much horsepower will I have to make in order to run 10.60's with you guys?

Glenn Briglio 12-06-2013 10:03 PM

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You boys are all fired up and it's only December. Alright I"ll bite.You just might see that Nova again next year. No problem going thru teardown as long as you go too!!!!

treekiller 12-06-2013 10:19 PM

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Todd todd todd so bitter. Reminds me of the fast guys who ran quick16 at noproblem having track management put a 8.50 et limit in the class because they couldn't attract 16 dragsters and slow doorcars even footbrakers were stepping in and waxing that azz. Like I said dude just a suggestion

Painter 12-06-2013 11:02 PM

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Well treekiller like some many bracket racers before and I'm sure more to come know a lot more than we do about racing- bracket racing that is. Class racing, Stock or Super Stock is a whole different game. They don't, can't and very few will ever understand. The accomplishment of making a Q-jet 350 ci 3200 lb car run in the tens is lost on racers that order another 100 cubic inches or another stage of nitrous when they feel the need to go faster. Joe I would think you would want me to get horsepower, it won't hurt you.

Tony Curcio 12-06-2013 11:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe DeMarzo (Post 411523)

I say low 60's for G/SA in the spring, look out. Who is bringing their A game in addition to Parker?????

I was going to take a whack at "G" before I read this. Maybe I'll try bumping the very stout "H" record down a notch instead. We'll need the kind of weather you get every other year at the Atco National Open, along with no headwind.

Joe DeMarzo 12-06-2013 11:33 PM

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Painter no way do I want the 350/255 get HP. I would have to listen to Perrone, Harper, Infintino, Curcio, Briglio, Baily and others wine about getting HP.. Just trying to protect my friends combo.

Now that is funny. hahahahaha

Painter 12-06-2013 11:49 PM

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This is fun. Especially when a bracket racer has all the answers. I'm certain the Prostock racers from La are beating his door down looking for help. You know it mite be fun to listen to Perrone but Baily mite hurt himself, I really wonder what Parker is really thinking about doing. I was going to Gainesville but the race was the wrong weekend.

treekiller 12-07-2013 12:01 AM

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You drama queens have taken a simple suggestion and blown it way out of proportion.

HandOverFist 12-07-2013 12:42 AM

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I'm considering making a couple of NMCA races in 2014 just for the fun of it. Our car would fit perfectly in the Nostalgia Musclecar class. ;) (That biga$$ windshield decal really sucks tho) :p

Terry Knott 12-07-2013 12:53 AM

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Hey Jim.......You tell
"Treekiller" and Joe M. to meet ME and Chuck at Bradenton......I'll put up $200.00...to the winner...IF both show up..... I may even throw in my 11:40 et car just to make it interesting..."IF" Holgar shows up though,all bets are off..........LOL.


Terry n his HOT crewcheif!! (Hey Kathy ..don't worry,you are sexy too!!)....Hey Holgar.................Miss you guys..I'll be in touch!!!

69Cobra 12-07-2013 02:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 411512)
Nobody is impressed with your steel head cement mixer technology race car. We didn't invite you or your opinion here. Nobody cares about it because you don't race with us or our rules. Other than at your home track, does anybody in the country know who you or car? Most likely not.

When you win the bracket finals or do something that stands out from the guys that you race with and against maybe you will become relevant. Until then you are a nobody in our world, and on this site. have a nice life.

X2!!!
Treekiller there are classes for you every where in the country every weekend go play in that sand box and leave ours alone!

Geerhead55 12-07-2013 02:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by treekiller (Post 411541)
You drama queens have taken a simple suggestion and blown it way out of proportion.

Drama queens?? I don't think so,,, YOUR'E the no namer that put his hand in the bee hive and now its so swollen you can't stick your thumb back where it came from. I'm a bracket racer for over 40 years and you're making my stomach churn.
If you don't understand the type of racing these ladies and gentlemen are involved in, you're better off staying off this site and having people think you're a fool, than typing your "suggestions" and having people KNOW you're a fool.
These folks put in a lot of time and effort and yes, some money, to make their cars run as well as they do within a very strict set of rules and regulations. I've followed and admired Stock and Superstock racing since 1968, and I enjoy what they do, even though I have no dog in the fight. I enjoy watching the heads up runs when they do occur, but theres more to it than that. I enjoy seeing a racer get a record, and then put the car in "bracket mode" and work their way through eliminations as skillfully and tenaciously as you ever will.
They certainly don't need me to defend them or class racing, they're doing fine themselves. I just get tired of no namers coming on here talking smack when they're in an entirely different type of racing.
Treekiller?? I'm 60 and I've got a stack of .00 timeslips, but who cares?? Its not the same game that we're talking here. I'm going to Columbus in May,,, maybe I'll see you there.
By the way,, Yellowbullet is a website where guys like you do all their flaming,, check it out.
Danny Durham (my real name)

Ed Carpenter 12-07-2013 03:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Smith (Post 411445)
Why do people feel NHRA is "out to get them" or are trying to push racers out just because it allows new cars to compete? Do you have a TV with rabbit ears, or a carb on your street car (okay, don't answer that), or any old technology for daily life? Do you have a smart phone? I'll tell you why, because the rules don't suit them, that's why and people feel the NHRA should exist for their own personal purpose.

It's called evolution people. There isn't one other class in NHRA where you can be competitive with old equipment. Okay, so one guy wins here and there with no throttle stop in Super Street, but you don't see cars from the '80s and '90s winning in the .90 classes. Why should it be a "right" to be competitive with an old race car when there is new, better technology available? Should NHRA ignore the new cars? Well then you'd have a nostalgia series, at least until everyone got old and quit racing, then you'd have nothing.

Racers get out of the sport for many reasons and I'm sure some decided they didn't want to compete against new cars, but to make a blanket statement that a mass of racers were pushed out is just not factual. And, for all who've quit, there are many new racers.

Please keep in mind that I love muscle cars from the 60s and 70s and I would love to see them continue on. I also own a 20-year old Stocker and I know it's day in the sun has passed. It's competitive, but who cares about that? It's my choice to update or be content racing a car that is outdated. Everyone else has the same choice.

So with this logic I should sell my 'old' 66 Chevy II because it can't compete? I guess everyone with a pre 2007 car should put them on racing junk. I happen to like my car thank you very much.

Ed Carpenter 12-07-2013 03:07 AM

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Just asking has 1320racer turned into treekiller? Lol


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