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Geerhead55 12-14-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Another Friendly Racer (Post 412487)
Any guesses what Dan's car would bring in at auction?

Your guess is as good as mine,, but I hope it never happens. That car should remain in the family,, theres some younger Fletchers to keep it going, you know.
Danny Durham

Paul Precht 12-14-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Hatch (Post 412522)
I'd like to mention Dan Dvorak's '63 Dodge 440, original 426 Max Wedge car with an aluminum front end. This car has set many national records in Stock eliminator over the years. It was bought last year by Tom Auger at the Mecum Auction in Florida. Tom brought the car to Maine where we've been working on it in preparation to compete in NHRA Stock Eliminator Division 1 for the 2014 season. I just finished installing a complete new floor pan yesterday, trans. and rear is ready, currently working on engine. We hope to be ready by season's start.

Nice, I haven't seen that car since the Gators in 84

FINESPLINE 12-14-2013 07:31 PM

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I believe he got that car at a real good price. Looking forward to seeing that car at a division 1 meet. Hard to think about racing with it being 23 degrees and snowing as I post.

E MAN 1982 12-14-2013 07:34 PM

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As mentioned earlier, my friend, the late Ken Montgomery 555 Hemi Plymouth. 2 time National event winner. Same family since "birth" E

lareagle 12-14-2013 08:21 PM

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1966 Nova SS L79 Bought New & still racing it now as F/S Stocker with
275 hp 327cu.
Set L79 350 hp 327 cu in corner . Has the number matching engine to the car.
It's JIM PARSONS.

kevin marshall 12-14-2013 09:10 PM

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Jason McCormick stick shift hemi.

grncpe 12-16-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Stasko (Post 412068)
John Kakalecik's '70 Hemi 'cuda has also been raced since new. I think Marvin Graves still runs the "Tammy's Toy" '68 LO23 Dart on occasion. Wayne Hutton's SS/AH car is also an original '68 Hemi Barracuda. I think both of Pancake's cars are originals?

I am updating/preparing a '66 Hemi Coronet base sedan for SS/DA that has been parked since 1984. It was an original Hine Motors car from Ohio. 464.5 documented original miles. 1 of 34 Hemi base sedans built.

John's car is a real hemi cuda, If anyone didnt know, It was the Lead Zepplin Car.

My Dad was the mech. on the 1964 plymouth "Pink Panther" When they changed from c/sa to SS/EA. 426 max. wedge high comp. Alum nose. The only factory black with red int. High comp. alum. car built. Also National record holder with Sonny Freeman driving.

GRAPE 12-17-2013 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by E MAN 1982 (Post 412559)
As mentioned earlier, my friend, the late Ken Montgomery 555 Hemi Plymouth. 2 time National event winner. Same family since "birth" E

3 time NHRA National Event Winner
SummerNationals
GatorNationals
Keystone Nationals

SSDA Hemi 12-17-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 412817)
John's car is a real hemi cuda, If anyone didnt know, It was the Lead Zepplin Car.

Thanks for the kind words guys but while my car is the Macey and Suracci "Lead Zeppelin"/ Bill Marshall/ Frank Lupo SS/DA car from June '70- It is not an original Hemi car. Actually they converted a slant 6 car.

And while it really doesn't matter as the car is priceless to me, I tell people that I'm glad its not as it surely would have been "restored" back to $howroom condition before I did buy it. I like them much better in race trim...

SSDA Hemi 12-17-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by J Oliverio (Post 412008)
We had a b5 blue 71 hemi cuda conv 4spd we raced in ss/ea which is now restored that brought big Bucks. Now have 2 A990 65 plymouths. Also how about the 70 Chevelle conv of Briggs Chev driven by Ray Allen.It brought major bucks

Any Pictures???

Joe Grippo 12-17-2013 09:46 AM

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How about Charlie Green's Super Stock Mustang?
1969 Mustang GT convertible, 428 Automatic, Charlie told me it is 1 of only 17.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3831/1...2a29893c_o.jpg
charlie green by Joe Grippo, on Flickr

whompin_wedge 12-17-2013 10:00 PM

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Danny Smith's 67 hemi car

Bob Marshalls SS/BA cars for sure would be up there!

How about any thunderbolts out there? What about Paul Adams ride, is that a original car?

Casey

jimi 12-18-2013 07:50 PM

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I think this is a fairly valuable one

Phillip marvetz 12-18-2013 10:07 PM

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Dave Wrens Original 68 Barracuda, I don't have a current pictures but it very nice.

Rory McNeil 12-19-2013 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 413066)
Dave Wrens Original 68 Barracuda, I don't have a current pictures but it very nice.

Also, Wren still has the same Max Wedge aluminum nose 63 Savoy that he was runner up with at the 68 Winternationals.

Eric Bell 12-19-2013 01:38 AM

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Dave Mann's 67 Plymouth Belvedere Hemi 4 speed has to be way up there. The car has 242 original miles on it. I believe it's 1 of 14 made. Originally it's a non RO car although he races it as a RO because NHRA rates it the same HP. By far the coolest car I have even driven. OK...driven in the pits warming it up.

Ron Stewart 12-19-2013 12:12 PM

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:) tony depillo's 64 plymouth, four speed, wheel standing ,gear jamming hemi . I WAS TOLD IT WAS A ORIGINAL CAR

John Scott 12-19-2013 12:47 PM

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My vote would be for Jerry MacNeish’s '67 Z/28. Maybe not the rarest of the rare, but still pretty darn rare. It also has a great story to go along with it. It's been a while since I read it but I think the story mentions that it was cut up and run as a Super Gas gas (the horror!) and then brought back to it's original glory.

http://z28camaro.com/wp/lzp1/

FED 387 12-19-2013 02:24 PM

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Dave & Ben Wenzel from DIV 3--- 67 Z28 D/S--original ONE owner bought it new been a racer ever since--car is fast been a winner many many times

X-TECH MAN 12-19-2013 10:24 PM

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This wouldnt make a very good Super Stocker today but I always like the Z-11 Chevys of 1963 like the "OLD RELIABLE". Its listed as a Super Stock only combo and the parts are kind of hard to find.

Alex Denysenko 12-19-2013 11:59 PM

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My SS 65 Mustang is a one family owned original 289 HIPO "K"code car. with a factory vinyl top and back up lights which most of you know still function.

Stephen & Horace Johnson 12-20-2013 01:35 PM

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I'm kind of partial to our R code Fairlane... A father- son team has always raced it.How unique is that? Its still painted the same scheme from back in the Morton Washington days..........;)

thrash7781 12-20-2013 05:26 PM

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I would like to mention gary long and his mercury and ray paquet and his thunderbolt. both from div. 3

Kevin McKenna 01-02-2014 05:38 PM

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I want to give a big THANK YOU to everyone who replied to this post. When I started it, I never expected to get more than 100 replies and over 25,000 views.

Now that we have all this great info, the big question is what to do with it. For certain, I'll be doing a feature in the print edition of National Dragster at some point this year on some of the rarest and most valuable class cars that are still in competition.

It's probably going to take a while to gather photos and info on some of these cars but off the top of my head I'd say we'll have something together around the Gainesville/Belle Rose races.

I also have a few great ideas for cars that would make perfect subjects for our popular Featured Flyers section. A few others may find their way into my online column, The Sports Report, which appears each Wednesday on www.nationaldragster.net.

Thanks again and keep the great ideas coming,

Kevin McKenna
National Dragster

Wayne Totaro 01-02-2014 08:47 PM

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The Carpinet Brothers 1968 Hemi Cuda - This car was one of the 68 Hemi's originally owned by Sox and Martin and driven by the "Four Speed Legend" Ronnie Sox. The car was also owned and raced by Jack Arnew!

The original 1968 Z-28 Camaro owned and raced by Dave Strickler, which won the world championship in SS in 1968. Currently owned by Jerry MacNeish and will be on the block at Barrett/Jackson auction later this month!

mark schafer 01-02-2014 10:31 PM

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Ben Wenzel's 1967 Z28 and Dan Fletcher's 1969 Z28, both race cars since new. Ben's Z28 is one of 602 built and the vin number's last three numbers are 602. Dans Z28 is the winningest car in nhra history and is a multiple time world champion super stocker. His two sons Timothy and Thomas are involved in drag racing and this car will probably be a three generation racer as Dan's dad Tom bought it new.

Geerhead55 01-03-2014 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mark schafer (Post 414842)
Ben Wenzel's 1967 Z28 and Dan Fletcher's 1969 Z28, both race cars since new. Ben's Z28 is one of 602 built and the vin number's last three numbers are 602. Dans Z28 is the winningest car in nhra history and is a multiple time world champion super stocker. His two sons Timothy and Thomas are involved in drag racing and this car will probably be a three generation racer as Dan's dad Tom bought it new.

Go back to pg.1 of this thread, Mark,,, both cars are already mentioned. They both are certainly very valuable/desirable racecars.
Danny Durham

DonatoEng 01-03-2014 01:32 PM

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Don't know if any real one are still running but the 69 SS/ AMX's always put on a great show. With only 52 built they have to be on the list.

T Hall 01-03-2014 03:21 PM

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This is one ND article I look forward to reading. I cant remember the last time I said that

SSGN 01-04-2014 07:03 PM

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Nice to see so many cars and the history. I was surfing the net over the holidays and found this, I sure hope it gets to be raced again.

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=&startRow=241

Kevin

jmcarter 01-04-2014 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SSGN (Post 415098)
Nice to see so many cars and the history. I was surfing the net over the holidays and found this, I sure hope it gets to be raced again.

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=&startRow=241

Kevin

Saw it run the 7.98 at Mission BC but think the bias against non-traditional Super Stockers (ask Carey) hurts the $ number it will bring at auction. Still a cool car though.

jmcarter 01-17-2014 10:02 AM

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Well, the Buick hits the block in Kissimmee tonight but I'm more interested in the Strickler "Old Reliable" Camaro which is a feature car at BJ and crosses the block in prime time tomorrow.

64 B-body 01-18-2014 12:42 PM

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Dvoark's 1963 Alum. front end Dodge max wedge car

z28camaroman 01-23-2014 04:06 PM

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FYI for the guys here. My Dave Strickler Z28 Camaro sold for $253,000.00 at the BJ auction. It also got a good home in the way of Rick Hendrick. Considering the so-so economy, I feel that my car did well. I had owned it for 21 years and campaigned it in NHRA Stock Eliminator for 14 seasons.

If I had the chance to talk about the car on the block, it may have gone over $300k but they were on a tight schedule with the live 2 hr Fox TV coverage so I was not able to talk about the car and all the original goodies I have that goes with the car.

R. Hendrick also bought the Prudhomme collection.

z28camaroman 01-23-2014 04:11 PM

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Oh, most of the NHRA known race cars sold at BJ 2014 took a shi..........on the block. Super Stock A12 Project car Road Runner, $99k, Sox and Martin Hemi Barracuda, $198k, a McDonalds Mopar that R. Jackson had, $46k.

Best way to find out what someone is willing to spend, bring your car to the auction as I did.......

Jerry

cicero819 01-23-2014 06:07 PM

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John Diana 56 Delivery wagon, not being race anymore but it was the car that made me buy my first Hot Rod magazine.

Dick Butler 01-24-2014 11:05 AM

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Photo is not the car from the HOT ROD cover but the wagon he rolled at Muncie Dragway at the Little Go on wednesday night before Indy. I was there. It was sprinkling and they kept running the cars. The picture is the result. John removed the usuable stuff and then built the Delivery.A guy from Indy climbed the fence in the AM to check it out and several years later gave me the license plate off this car since I purchased the Sedan Delivery third handed. Still have the plate somewhere. Wish I still had the delivery but changed it to a wagon and kept going to fit the NHRA rules changes.

brent flynn 01-25-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick Butler (Post 417870)
Photo is not the car from the HOT ROD cover but the wagon he rolled at Muncie Dragway at the Little Go on wednesday night before Indy. I was there. It was sprinkling and they kept running the cars. The picture is the result. John removed the usuable stuff and then built the Delivery.A guy from Indy climbed the fence in the AM to check it out and several years later gave me the license plate off this car since I purchased the Sedan Delivery third handed. Still have the plate somewhere. Wish I still had the delivery but changed it to a wagon and kept going to fit the NHRA rules changes.

Cool Story, DIck... Muncie is my home track, and im good friends with Bruce& Peggy Seward. Muncie has claimed a few good cars, over the years... the most notable(in my opinion) is Ted Harbett's(spelling?) Studebaker "The Chicken Hawk"... He race it as a Stocker for years, as im sure you know... I just arrived at the track , about 45mins after it happened... He's ok , but the car was destroyed, Oil line mishap...i think it was to one of the blowers, im not sure. Hard to see that much history get destroyed, in the blink of an eye. He had the car goin in the 9's, with 2 AFBs and Stude power...

brent flynn 01-25-2014 10:30 AM

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I would have to say, both "Hard Times'' Firebirds...The original Truman Fields car, and the 2nd one, owned now by Todd Hoven. They are both National event winners,and i believe Todd's car has won Stock Championships, 2 of them...THe original was a Ram Air 2 car, now restored and owned by Jim Mino. Not sure if the #2 car was a Ram Air 2 or a 330hp car...Todd could chime in on that... and I would have have to nominate my Bird, as #3 hehehe( kiddin guys :D)

Dick Butler 01-26-2014 07:33 PM

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Many of the mentally most valuable race cars came from the era of the Car Craft Magazine about JR. STOCK. That magazine was my introduction and bible on Drag racing. Then the era became so popular Hot Rod chimed in and Super Stock magazine was in the mix also. Couldn't get enough of the fine points of Jr. Stock...current cars WAY out of line with the "good old days" of rules and rulebooks.


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