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MAURICE BLENDHEIM 06-04-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by buzzinhalfdozen (Post 433876)
After reading thru the posts on this subject I see there are some pretty strong sentiments on both sides. As for me my son raced JR's and went on to become a very successful racer, winning in most everything he's driven (including a motorhome) while gaining the respect and friendship of his fellow racers. Now I have no way of knowing for sure if drag racing was the thing that helped in developing his way of living his life but I do know that I've never had to bail him out of jail, he's never been in any real trouble and he's become a responsible adult and father. This summer my grandson will begin his JR dragster racing and I'm hopeful that he too will develop the same skills and friendships that my son did. That being said my personal opinion on 5 year olds racing is let's wait and see....I'm sure there are some kids that will be just fine, some not so much, no different from the adult racers we all race with today...there's some good ones and well not so good as far as handling themselves.

Joe…I enjoyed your sensible post. I'm kind of surprised about some of responses to Jim's original and almost hateful post. As parents we all have the best intensions for our children. We have to display positive examples of existence at all times for them to make the best of their lives in this "not so nice society" we all live in. Growing up in the 60's is not like growing up today. Today, we need to keep our children closer than ever and keep the lines of communication open at all times. At 5 years old a child is very influential and listens better, especially to Grandpa. Responsible positive guidance in youth today will put them in the winners circle tomorrow. I think some should analyze their own responses and look at what they are complaining about. Maybe a more sensible approach would be to pick a Youth Member of the JR. community and have the President of the SSSSA work with the kids in a more professional fashion. Oh... I almost forgot, think back to 5 years old how cool it would have been to have a Good Dad and a JR. dragster in a world without all the choices. Safety is one thing and Sharing Professionalism is another. "Just my opinion"…MB.

RJ Sledge 06-04-2014 02:50 PM

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Most hateful? or Almost hateful? Which is it??

You win Jim!! Congrats

RJ

X-TECH MAN 06-04-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KennyAnderson (Post 433863)
I'm guessing you are not a parent? I thought you were joking about running JR's on tues/wed in the middle of the day? I guess not. If you are serious there is nothing I can say.

Your wrong.....Had 3 (2 boys and a girl) THEY BEHAVED when out in public and at home. If they didn't they knew it was hell to pay when their mom or me got them outside. Most do not. Today one is a math teacher, one a civil engineer and the oldest works for the CIA. ALL COLLEGE GRADS. Let me know next time you are trying to have a nice QUIET dinner with friends or your wife and some little $**T screams at the top of his lungs sitting right next to you and " IT's" dumb ***** parents say or do NOTHING or leans over from behind and pukes down your collar or throws food all over your wife's clothes..

buzzinhalfdozen 06-04-2014 03:35 PM

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Terry, yeah I think we've all been in THAT situation...parents not making their kids behave, sorry buddy but times have changed what used to be an isolated happening has now become the norm. There were 9 kids in my family, we were dirt poor so we did not go out to eat, however we were all expected to be seen not heard be it in public, at church, or at home. That however has little to do with the subject being discussed here...again todays kids are simply being raised differently than your generation and mine, there is a lack of parental guidance and control some of which has been taken away by the many "do gooders". Well intentioned as they may be.... children need discipline, rules and boundries, lets hope that the ones being exposed to drag racing receive a bit of all these things. Merely my opinion, Joe P.S. sounds like you raised so very good kids.

X-TECH MAN 06-04-2014 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzinhalfdozen (Post 433923)
Terry, yeah I think we've all been in THAT situation...parents not making their kids behave, sorry buddy but times have changed what used to be an isolated happening has now become the norm. There were 9 kids in my family, we were dirt poor so we did not go out to eat, however we were all expected to be seen not heard be it in public, at church, or at home. That however has little to do with the subject being discussed here...again todays kids are simply being raised differently than your generation and mine, there is a lack of parental guidance and control some of which has been taken away by the many "do gooders". Well intentioned as they may be.... children need discipline, rules and boundries, lets hope that the ones being exposed to drag racing receive a bit of all these things. Merely my opinion, Joe P.S. sounds like you raised so very good kids.

I agree 1000%. Most today let them run wild. No all....but more than should. Thanks for the compliment as I'am proud of how they turned out and they all have great jobs. Just a little nervous about the one with the CIA. Not the safest job in the world. They turned out a lot better than me.....LOL.

Fireofficer5 06-04-2014 09:04 PM

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Make the jrs. run mufflers, (sounds like fart cans) (ricers)
come to think of it, make everyone run mufflers.:p

X-TECH MAN 06-04-2014 09:26 PM

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I just remembered that Capitol Raceway in Crofton Md. started running the Jr's on Saturday MORNINGS only after clogged return roads, and several general close calls. That way all was done by the time the regular cars were coming in to race around 12 or 1 in the afternoons. That cured a lot of problems but some parents pissed and moaned it was to early to get up, their little darlings couldn't get up that early, the parents cried they had to be there all day at the track if dad or mom was racing. Guess they didn't know about class racing and how long it takes at an NHRA event....LOL. Capitol management said its either that or NO JR's at all. Havent heard of any problems since from the guys I know who race there. The Jr's get in and have a great time. Then the track is left for the full sized race cars in the afternoons and eveings.

John Kissel 06-04-2014 09:49 PM

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nhra is going to do whatever they decide to do. I just hope that nothing bad ever happens as every newsreader will be all over it on t.v. just like they continue to call street dragracing no mater how many times you send them e-mails or try and call.It will only take one bad happening. Just look at what happened a few years ago at The Naional Air Races which almost stopped them forever. It will be interesting to see how the insurance carriers for the various tracks react along with various states like "the okkupied republik of n.j." which have racing under rules of the state police. John Kissel

X-TECH MAN 06-05-2014 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by John Kissel (Post 433952)
nhra is going to do whatever they decide to do. I just hope that nothing bad ever happens as every newsreader will be all over it on t.v. just like they continue to call street dragracing no mater how many times you send them e-mails or try and call.It will only take one bad happening. Just look at what happened a few years ago at The Naional Air Races which almost stopped them forever. It will be interesting to see how the insurance carriers for the various tracks react along with various states like "the okkupied republik of n.j." which have racing under rules of the state police. John Kissel

John.....We used to call the state police at the track the GASTOPO STORM TROOPERS. Notice their "skin head" hair cuts and their uniforms and attitudes. IHRA had a race at Atco a long time ago and said screw this and never went back. To much BS.

Tom keedle 06-23-2014 05:55 AM

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http://www.bandimere.com/about-us/ne...-size-vehicles!

Jim Wahl 06-23-2014 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom keedle (Post 435730)

Tom, your link comes up 404 not found. Jim

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Jim Wahl 06-23-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom keedle (Post 435730)

Is this what you were trying to post? From Bandimere Raceway rules and regs section:

A minor release form is available at Tech Inspection for children from ages 14-17 years. This release will allow them to be in a restricted access area. The restricted access area is defined to start at the back of the tower and extend through the track and return road to the ET Slip Booth. He or she is only permitted in this area while supporting a car making a run at that time. Upon completion of the run being supported they must depart the restricted access area. Anyone under the age of 14 or children without a Minor Release on file must remain seated INSIDE of a tow vehicle or not enter the restricted areas. Children under age 14 are not allowed on motorcycles or 4-wheelers. No one under 16 years of age is allowed to operate any vehicles (including but not limited to tow vehicles, motorcycles or 4-wheelers) anywhere or ride in/on a vehicle making a run.


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Tom keedle 06-23-2014 02:26 PM

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No,its about 13-16year olds running 1/8 mile in full size cars

Jim Wahl 06-23-2014 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom keedle (Post 435785)
No,its about 13-16year olds running 1/8 mile in full size cars

.http://www.bandimere.com/home

Go here and click the post on the left side of the page. Jim

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Tom keedle 06-23-2014 07:26 PM

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it says (don't know why the link won't worky);"13-16 Year Olds Can Now Race Full Size Vehicles!

by User Not Found | May 02, 2014

NHRA today announced a new racing program for 13-16-year-olds.


NHRA Youth Racing Program


Pop culture observers who think young people’s interest in cars is somehow waning seem to have difficulty explaining a growing interest in motorsports among America’s youth. In fact, to help meet the demand for teenagers wanting to drive fast, the NHRA today announced a new racing program for 13-16-year-olds that combines racing and car safety.NHRA Youth Racing will give teenage boys and girls the opportunity to race against their peers in full-bodied street vehicles with an adult co-driver as their teammate.

Competitors will go through an orientation/licensing procedure on an eighth-mile dragstrip in their vehicles, which must meet program requirements. Approved vehicles must be registered, insured, street-legal vehicles with mufflers and street tires and limited to 10 seconds and slower.

“This is an inexpensive program but, best of all, it’s a way for families to use drag racing as a learning tool and a conduit for family bonding,” said Josh Peterson, NHRA vice president of racing administration.

All of NHRA’s member tracks are eligible to conduct NHRA Youth Racing activities at their tracks. Those interested in competing should contact a member track by using the Member Track Locator at NHRA.com. Program rules can be found at NHRARacer.com.NHRA Youth Racing is the latest program in NHRA’s youth racing segment that also includes the NHRA Summit Racing Jr. Drag Racing League.

If there is enough interest locally, Bandimere Speedway will create classes for competition for these Youth Racers to race against each other. Until there are enough participants to create classes and events, Youth Racers will be able to hone their skills and learn on Wednesday CSP Responsible Speed Test Nights."

John Leichtamer Jr 06-24-2014 08:09 AM

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Better put a MPH limit on them also. Throttle Stop on a street car?????????
Could happen, their are some creative people out there.


Hammer

BZenzen 06-24-2014 01:14 PM

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It seems like a lot of people are quick to hate on the Junior Dragsters because they "clog" up staging or are loud.

While these may be perceived to be true, these kids are the future of the sport. If they want to start racing at a younger age, so be it. I value my days in a junior, and am grateful that NHRA gives us the opportunity to start at a younger age, and be ready to jump into a full size car right at 16.

Fireofficer5 06-24-2014 03:24 PM

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Children, without a drivers license driving a full size car.:p

Mike Carr 06-24-2014 03:56 PM

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IHRA has been doing this for years at some tracks. It's called TCR (Teen Championship Racing). Kid age 13-17, in street legal cars, 1/8 mile only, 10.00 and slower. Adult/parent co-rider mandatory. Kid only drives the car from the water box to the line, makes the pass, and drives to the timeslip booth (adult drives through the pits) Dave Campolito's son Eric has won the past three TCR track championships at Quaker City Motorsports Park. He started driving his dad's Q-R/SA Impala this year. He went some rounds at the Class Nationals, and won twice in Street ET at Quaker this year already. The program works, and is cheaper for a parent than buying a Jr Dragster.

Tom keedle 06-24-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fireofficer5 (Post 435936)
Children, without a drivers license driving a full size car.:p

I don't have a problem with the jr dragsters BUT it's kinda odd that the kids can drive a car on the track but not any "support" vehicles in the pits (at Bandimere anyway)

Dan Wilson 06-25-2014 10:07 AM

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The one real problem with JR dragster is the use of one engine rule.
B-S!!!!! They should be allowed to run any 5hp brand engine. It is a bracket race. Keep the cost down and dial the car.

Dan

Jim Wahl 07-12-2014 09:28 PM

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Bryan Epps


We should have been done four hours ago at the jr conference finals but "some" kids vandalized racers rigs and golf carts last night so we sat for over 4 hours waiting for the person to confess before they would start the race. It was the right call to sit and get a handle on these punks. A few confessed but not to the major "stuff". Parents need to get control of there kids! Mine wouldn't have been able to walk for a week!


.https://www.facebook.com/bryan.epps....486088?fref=nf


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X-TECH MAN 07-13-2014 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 437726)
Bryan Epps


We should have been done four hours ago at the jr conference finals but "some" kids vandalized racers rigs and golf carts last night so we sat for over 4 hours waiting for the person to confess before they would start the race. It was the right call to sit and get a handle on these punks. A few confessed but not to the major "stuff". Parents need to get control of there kids! Mine wouldn't have been able to walk for a week!


.https://www.facebook.com/bryan.epps....486088?fref=nf


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You were not close to where the Govt. shipped in a load of illegal alien rug rats were you Jim?

gbur 07-13-2014 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by x-tech man (Post 437749)
you were not close to where the govt. Shipped in a load of illegal alien rug rats were you jim?

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Jim Wahl 07-13-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 437749)
You were not close to where the Govt. shipped in a load of illegal alien rug rats were you Jim?

As a matter of fact, they just unloaded 5 bus loads in an undisclosed location here in Orlando. TB, scabies, lice and all! They would not allow the press to cover or report on it. Jim

Maybe Obama will buy each one of them a Jr. Dragster on the taxpayer's dime. Or take half of them from the American kids and give them to the illegal kids!!


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