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It's the stand the NHRA has to take. The reason that the NHRA was formed. It's a shame but the NHRA TV coverage is terrible, so is the product. Id watch a whole season of this before I watch any pro coverage. I'm sure I'm not alone in this opinion, maybe not on this site but with car people my age. It seems everybody on Facebook that comments about this is pro SO, and anti NHRA. The Suits that run the NHRA should use this as a wake up call. Shake things up and come up with some programs, or ideas that can breed some exposure into the homes of the people watching these shows.

The SO show is pretty good to watch. There are different styles of cars, drivers with personalities, a bit of drama with passion. The cars are cool, and have technology in them. The drivers are guys the common folk can sort of relate to. Unlike any pro racer today. It will be interesting to see how this plays out for both parties. If I'm the NHRA Id figure out a way to hold my ground, and make a deal with these guys. Pay them to make some appearances at some races, with TV coverage. If 2.2 million more started watching, it would be a good thing.

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I understand what you're saying, and maybe that's where they take it. I don't know. They are headquartered in California.

In this case, though, I think that they did the right thing. Some of those are known guys, and the cars are real. They had to do something.

Everyone's bashing NHRA. Maybe they should be bashing the guys doing the show.

Talk about money. Nobody on that show would care if it was cancelled if they didn't stand to lose money from the deal. Maybe a lot of money. Instead, they place the blame on NHRA for their own decisions.

I'm not surprised one bit. That's the way it goes today. Blame the people enforcing the rules instead of the person breaking them.

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YOU MISSED my point by a MILE !!

My point:
The Sanctioning bodies have a opportunity to capitalize on this !
Put on a Street Racing program that was as interesting as PINKS..
Do not know why PINKS stopped. Sure had my attention.

IHRA and NHRA need to get out of the box of the sanctioned professional and amateur and deal with the serious issue of Street Racing.

One of the major prejudices are allowing foreign makes to race with US built cars.
Hell that alone in Stock would double the ranks.

Provide a venue and intrigue.
If it were me I know what I would do.

D

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One interesting point...

I remember Georgia 400 getting built back in the 70's

Deliverance and Smokey and the Bandit were filmed in that area.
Burt Reynolds used a lot of that road before it was completed for his street racing themes in the Bandit series.

Street Outlaws, Fast and Furious, Bullet were all about competition and the baddest ***** cars and crazy souls going after it.

I get the feeling more people were watching Street Outlaws than were going to NHRA Meets.

I think Pro Stock has run its course and why Mountain Motor and other venues are run by the street guys.

Street Outlaws have a small tire and large tire cars racing.
Lot of that comes from the Radial Tire limitation races.

I think if you have the racers put on a venue advertise in national and local newspapers their followers will come.
Intrigue !! Mystery !!

NHRA and IHRA trying and run as many cars through in an hour as possible.

I remember the days of rosin prepped tracks.
The pace slowed down.
The build up. The smack talk. Offside betting.
Everyone was lined up to see those races.
Features that made PINKS exciting.

How many times you see the Fans line up to watch Pro Stock like that ?

Just saying

D

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Todd, i agree with everything you said,nhra really needs to try and find a way to make this work for them instead of alienating and threatening people, i do believe they are really pissed about themselves looking stupid compared to " a bunch of yahoo street racers", somebody is making money and it aint them, did anyone notice how many guys are wearing msd and other manufacturers tee shirts now, want to bet someones getting paid to do that ??? whats next nhra throws out any sponsors that are shown on SO??

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Street racing doesn't have camera crews,safety cones,emregency crews,spot lights etc.

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I see a lot of speculation on the deaths caused by "Street Racing" and what type of "Street Racing" would that be drag racing, Formula 1, salt flats, dune buggies.........

We all sound like the uneducated masses that call any type of street race a drag race..........

Just for the record I wonder how many people are killed each year due to driving while under the influence of alcohol or drugs????????????????

If safety and saving lives is the issue, well..............

Bob

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Left out cell phones, boom boom stereos, and tires with large and small diameters with off sets that stress suspension components, add on TV sets in vehicles, digital everything on the dash that causes you to take your eyes off the road to navigate thru menus, etc.

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For at least 8 years i have watched street racing on You tube. There are cars from time to time have NHRA/IHRA #'s on the cars. Nothing was said. If you count the hits for these videos, there is certainly a large interest in drag racing. Everything on the Discovery Channel is staged in some manner, regardless of the format. These are all shows for entertainment. Entertainment is for $$$$$. A bunch of racers got noticed and became popular. I think that we all wished that it would happen to us. If Wally would have sanctioned street racers from the 60's, I doubt if NHRA would have gotten very far.Let them race and let NHRA offer an alternative to street racing at the end of the show...".it's safe and legal and fun and anyone one can do it with any car. That's how you win. Build the sport.

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Pinks isn't on anymore because it sucked !

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Id rather watch one hour of the boys from the 405 than 3 hours of rich guys racing other rich guys.
And it seems on Monday prime time 2.3 MILLION do to!

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If its my Right to pay taxes for upkeep and construction of the roads in my country why am i privledge to drive on them? No its my right to drive on them. NHRA is right on this issue too.
I never street raced. I'm chicken ***** enough I respect speed. Doesn't make me a wuss, just smart.

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I'm like u; House of Darts, I look at alot of those races on you tube also, n wonder if NHRA gets their way here how long be they start hunting those guys down. Or is the difference that those guys don't show NHRA up in the ratings. SO members are paid to be on TV; while NHRA has to pay to be seen n still gets the shaft from ESPN. Does anybody know of another motorsport shown on TV that has to pay instead of being paid to be seen. These guys pack whatever tracks they go to when they make guest appearances; something NHRA hasn't been able to do for a long time. The gap between SOs' viewers n NHRAs' is getting bigger every year. Maybe it's time the executives at NHRA learned something instead of trying to run the competition out of town.

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Restricting individuals from participating in a staged TV show about "street racing" could be the prelude to restricting people who race with other sanctioning bodies. This tv show is legal and really not nhra's business. I do understand them not wanting Nhra stickers on a car or maybe the nhra competition numbers but trying to restrict what individuals do by threats to suspend their racing privelige with Nhra seems rather stupid. I've been racing for more than 30 years and have seen the numbers of spectators and competitors steadily decline. The folks that run nhra don't have a clue. They are so dependent on two or three pro teams for their livelihood, that if anything happens to one or two of those teams the whole deal would fall apart. What they are doing to these folks is heavy handed and not in the best interests of the organization. It makes the management look clueless, something a lot of us already think they are.

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I'm thinking this is a great time to take advantage of this shows following by the local tracks.
match race these cars in a grudge format. take it one step farther and due a national list aka: 60's gasser wars. east verses west, north verses south. the cars and drivers have nick names. I think if they ran a show at englishtown I would go for the first time in many years on a regular sunday. JMHO

Joey Dee
Former Div.1 S/G champion

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Great post!

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I happen to agree with NHRA on this particular instance, but their credibility stinks.

One of the lines that they post in their letter is that they don't want any detractions from the "family atmosphere" of the sport....yet they had no problem with Courtney Force posing in the buff for ESPN the magazine (yeah, I know, it was to show off her position as a 'athlete') when we all know it was a deal to sell tickets and support the Force-Schumacher show.

They need to become more "Dedicated to Safety" and less about "Championship Drag Racing".

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Yes, NHRA is mismanaged at times
Yes, NHRA is losing its viewers
Yes, NHRA seems to not care about its sportsman
Yes, NHRA missed the boat on a TV show about real guys and their real cars and their real battles every year to make the list. Its called sportsman racing, And there are plenty of more entertaining people to watch in Div 4 alone
Yes, NHRA likes money....


But, NHRA cannot be associated with anybody who promotes street racing. Fake or Real, doesn't matter. NHRA doesn't care about a youtube video with 5k views. They care about a group of people, who NHRA is associated with, actively promoting an idea that is directly contrary to NHRA's very existence. Would you want an American citizen to keep his Citizenship if he went to fight for ISIS? An extreme example, but on the exact same lines. This is the first time NHRA has done this, and its only because its directly contrary to their mission. I cannot see this going any further into DUI's and other arrest, unless you get on National TV clearly representing affiliation with NHRA and promoting drunk driving.

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I can see both sides. If it discourages dumb-azzes from actually street racing, I'm with NHRA. Did I street race when I was a kid? Sure did. Had a 14 second '56 Chevy (wasn't an old car then <G>) not an 8 second car. I have seen enough of them get loose and tear stuff up, I have to wonder why they don't just go to the NHRA track at Noble for test & tune nights. Wouldn't seem all "outlaw" to them, I guess. Jeanie and I do enjoy watching them, and they really do have fast cars.

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Might as well post it here since I posted on another site also......


This man gets it. Nice to see some common sense and intelligence in here with you and Nitro. These bashers are amusing though.....


Yes he does, but.....its slim pickens out there, so...why would ANYBODY pit one group of parts buyers against another?

I get their point, but their PR department is horrible! maybe they ought to, fire the whole dam crew and move them offices out of California and into the real world where they can see what the hell is going on? and capitalize upon it

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Look at all the promos from the automotive industry about their new supercars. Does anyone think that you buy a fast car to go slow? Car after car doing burnouts. That visual sells cars. After market industries work hand in hand with the automotive manufacturers. They did it thru the 60's, 70's the smog days to present. How to you thinh NHRA got all the new AAA?,AA/,Al ? etc. stockers. Glendora didn't do it. NHRA does not offer alternatives to promote drag racing into a viable sport. Followers are not leaders. Selling dog food is not drag racing. This is big government in racing. Obviously NHRA doesn't know how staged "real life" shows are produced. Stick to what you know and do it better. If you don't what your doing then step aside.

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This show has been on for almost two years.Why now are they sending out letters. Is it because the show is getting so popular? Are they that concerned about their mission statement? Or is it because they are competition? When IHRA was doing well a few years ago and a lot of the pro teams were crossing over and running IHRA. NHRA imposed a testing ban supposedly to save the teams money. Was that the reason or was it to prevent them from racing with their competitor.

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I agree, NHRA could still have distanced themselves from this program but let local tracks which are struggling to stay open use this to help put butts in the seats. the only issue I have with these type of races at legit tracks is the those yahoos stand around the starting line so close to the cars that are racing. Funny thing is every group of racing venues seems to bad mouth the other forms of drag racing, something I never understood. Maybe NHRA just need to put their big boy pants on or maybe have Chief or Daddy Dave be grand marshals the Motoplex's Fallnationals in Texas.

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On newscast when someone is killed while racing on the street
newscaster calls it drag racing maybe NHRA should call the
news channel and set them straight. Drag racing is done on
a drag strip, street racing is done on the street

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Wonder if this has any connection with NHRA selling the PRO Classes to the Entertainment Company?

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BINGO!

JimR

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Hi,

The best way to tell how people will act in the future, is to look at the way they have acted in the past....

I am happy the you feel comfortable with NHRA doing the right thing like a benevolent dictator, but I look at NHRA as having no rudder or direction

The only reason that NHRA might be associated with street racing and Street Outlaws is because NHRA wanted to be associated with Street Outlaws because of the press and coverage this dust up has caused......

Street Outlaws doesn't give a crap about NHRA, all they care about is ratings....

Maybe NHRA might learn something. But I doubt it

On another note...
I have come up with a plan to increase the quality of the NHRA Executive Staff...... Prior to being hired they must be able to state the firing order of any engine………How many would have job right now....Don’t get me wrong there are many smart and talented employees at NHRA but they are hopelessly outnumbered by higher up Executives, who make policy and don’t have a clue…

I race NHRA because it’s the Big Leagues and now they are acting bush league……….

They should mark the years with a BW and an AW, because when Wally passed away it turned into a different NHRA....

Bob

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NASCAR seems to have no problem taking out the trash.

http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup...d-indefinitely

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Hey Kurt, better call Saul...

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Looks like NASCAR is trying to regulate Kurt Busch's off track behavior.

Jim

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Hmmmm let me think about this

first there was guys coming from WW 2 started building something called
a hot rod they raced each other on the street.

second, then a smart guy said lets organize these people. and make it safe
and legal and maybe we can make a couple of bucks

third, now days we'll play big brother, so street racing on tv is a no no
even though most local track are making money promoting Fun day sundays
street cars only on thursdays grudge race's saturday so the local tracks
feed off the tv show and to a certian point pull cars off the street. most tracks
charge 10 15 bucks to race. there is even midnight maddness.
Al Hoffman (RIP) used to street race his big block lenco shifted corvette for
money on a regular basis try to tell him what to do back then. So nhra
should send letters out to members not to watch two lane black top,
american graffiti, dragstrip girls, etc etc etc

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Really, who gives a **** !, nobody is chained to racing with NHRA, go race somewhere else, if this crap bothers you.

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I wonder why the producers of that Discovery TV show did not just pixelate the NHRA decals in the videos?

If they had done that, I don't believe this problem would have come to all those letters.

I would imagine that is the core of the problem.

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How about if I do that guest appearance that Fat N Furious has been calling me about...........

Would I still be able to come back and race NHRA???????????

Bob

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I think the show is stupid ! it is not any sort of drag racing program. REALITY TV... who cares.

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Bob, go for it . Be a TV star !

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NHRA is trying to play the "Almighty Role"......... and it's going to back fire on them.... so foolish. If Wally Parks was still with us today he would be ashamed of what they have and are doing.
They are done and don't know it yet.

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Its all about the money! Period! And If NHRA treated people (the racer) better, they would not have the problems they do. Ask me how I know? Their ship is sinking, and fast!

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Bingo! but why can't people police themselves?