Re: Why Class racing dies slowly
 

Stop the insanity!

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Yes, really. The breakdown on the $7,000 engine.283, .090 over, $600 honed and lifter bores bushed, high-tech dual plane, $250 dollars, port work, $100, 29 year old Pistons bought from Rick Katterjohn, and lightened by Rebco, $500, stock rods finished by Al Parker, $200, stock 283 crank, and balancing, $300, used Moroso oil pan, $100, dart 200 cc heads, angle milled, and valve job by Al Parker, $1,200, cam by Comp, $275, roller lifter by comp, $300, cloyes hex-a-just, $150, Howard rocker arms, $250, push rods, $100, used stud girdle, $100, total seal rings, $300, bearings, and gaskets, $300, super sucker spacer, $100, z28 oil pump, $25, ATI steel dampener, used, $150, used water pump, $50, used 1 and 7/8ths headers, $150, damn best 750 cfm $1,200. Misc. $300. I know because I assembled it. Don't know the breakdown of the other engine, but it was to be the hot item. And it did run.

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Car count in Denver after Q2: S - 34, SS -16...




Mike A114
P/SA

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Nice job, congratulations

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Afraid Denver is not an indication on the pulse of sport as it always has low car counts. Columbus divisional 102 stockers 79 super stock.

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Thank you. It actually was a shock.

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Gentlemen, I appreciate the place to discuss my view of Racing Class in Stk and SS.
There is a place for every type of racing in these eliminators.
I appreciate all your input and opinions. I appreciate you listening to my thoughts.
Lets end this discussion with a hand shake and a thank you at this time.
Good Luck and I hope to see you all at the races..

Dick Butler

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As far as crate engines go in stock cars if you have the money & know the right people you can buy the special head bolts & intake bolts that cant be duplicated . So why would that work in NHRA any better ? If you have claimer engines the guy with the money just keeps buying the fast guys stuff until he gets tired of building new engines.

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Who Builds a car for just for class racing and not for the bracket part of it ?

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Just left the divisional at Columbus... Final was heads up in Superstock with at least 2 other heads ups in the 3rd and 4th rounds...If you built a motor for the " Bracket " part of it ....you left early .

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What Jeff said X 2

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Rich South
lol

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Yep, and oh by the way there were 82 cars there in SS. Not what I would call a dying class.

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Glad it mattered that heads up runs occurred in the last few rounds..... and the winner was? by the way were the pairs of cars factored the same? or:? Despite the fact many reading this thread like to ignore that part on here I bet they wouldn't if they were in the situation.
Racing class is still the topic not Class racing which includes Eliminator and Class heads up racing.
Good to see the numbers of interested Class racers continues. It should because there are lots of Pts. meets, and Stk SS meets where the dial in is still the important portion of their competitiveness.

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Dick, Todd Frantz beat Brianna Kelly... One FI Combo , one carbureted in the final... BOTH cars had already had one heads up run on their way to the final, and made it past those. So 2 heads up races for the finalist...

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[QUOTE=Dick Butler;477719]Glad it mattered that heads up runs occurred in the last few rounds..... and the winner was? by the way were the pairs of cars factored the same? or:?

They were both GT cars in the Super Stock final but they were different body styles. One was a front wheel drive conversion and one was originally rear wheel drive. I don't know either engine combination but even if they were the same, are you suggesting a "spec" body style as well? More specifically, all identical cars in the class in order to eliminate any aerodynamic advantage?

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Rick, yes there had been discussion of Mustang, Camaro, Charger,Challenger and no Jelly beans or wt break for Normal cars versus FWD had been discussed.
Motor was the starting point. Original idea was a lb/ cubic inch with specified Heads each model, limited crank, cam and springs to limit need for other exotic parts. Same carbs and manifold. Limit ignition,

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The roundy-round guys tried that and called it iroc...and it sucked big time! A whole crap load of identical cars and identical drivetrains...course you'd be happy dick, they were camaro's and they ran sbc's.


Crap, I just realised that by responding to this rediculous thread, it'll go back to the top and no doubt dick will once again re-iterate why the class is dying/no real racers anymore/doom/gloom


Hey eeyore, turn that frown upside down. LOL!