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Only people with childish immature behavior laugh at other people !
At school it is called Bullying!
They cannot handle rational conversation.

I have not disrespected anyone on these posts.
Most posts were helpful valid opinions and others just cannot be civil.

Mark my words.....you will face a person just like you.
Harassing and being a butt head on a public forum while you advocate on an issue !!

As for racing Stock or what ever format out there to race!
That is my decision and you do not control that !

D

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. Nobody is laughing at Cooter....He has a race car and a place to race it......He doesn’t lobby organizations to change rules to fit his agenda... You have no CLUE....Like PAINTER said so eloquently last week, Pure Stock is dead....SEND FLOWERS !!.....I still need your address......

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As an outsider who reads these threads out of general sportsman racing interest, I have two observations here:

1. Dan, Pure Stock is over. You either need to make your car fit current Stock Eliminator rules, or bracket race your car in its current condition.

2. It is pretty disgusting to read the disrespectful comments to Dan (on this thread and others) based on his choice of race car/class.

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You can advocate for an issue all you want, you just can't expect everyone to agree and in this case most do not. That is what's wrong with this country, if you don't agree with someone you're a racist, bigot or in this case you said I'm a bully. You do whatever you please but I will continue to "advocate" against Pure Stock in NHRA.
All this about what it was like in the good old days doesn't change where we are today and we're certainly not going back. If the people that I have talked to within NHRA have their way PS will never be allowed. I guess I'm just a bully.

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Pure Stock (old Stock) was the closest to that concept !
GT, CM and PS got regulated out of existence.
That can happen to Stock Eliminator by a simple Rule change.

On interesting observation...!
When the open Spring/Duration rule became legal.
Cars got faster, needed more safety equipment, certifications, $$$$
Required more qualified Tech Inspectors.
Insurance rates when up.
Some tracks convert to 1/8 mile.
All tracks upgraded facilities to be safer, a good thing actually.
Winnings and Contingencies dropped.
New Technologies follow.
Fewer Qualified Tech Inspectors.
New rules, HP changes, new cars
Fewer Racers setting National Records.
Sanction Drag Racing Bodies go out of business or OTW.

Class Racing is like herding cats.
Management of details to put on a great show is an art and science.

D

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At this point who cares, deal with hand your/we are delt. Lets just go racing and have fun. Thats what it is about, not whining and crying.

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As an outsider who reads these threads out of general sportsman racing interest, I have two observations here:

1. Dan, Pure Stock is over. You either need to make your car fit current Stock Eliminator rules, or bracket race your car in its current condition.

2. It is pretty disgusting to read the disrespectful comments to Dan (on this thread and others) based on his choice of race car/class.

Exactly! I also have a combination that was eliminated. I am not asking anybody to make a class for me, but if Dan does more power to him. But some of these guys don'twant him to do that. They would be upset if they had to go slumming and race a car like his. So they are the ones who are like the Democrats with their snobbish, elitist attitudes.

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Sorry but sometimes I just can't help it. Have to comment.

Dan
In post 81 you say that you have not disrespected anyone and only people with childish immature behavior laugh at other people and that is being a Bully. In post 77 you said can see the Copo, Comp and SS guys all laughing at Cooter.

Does logic then not say the you are saying Copo, Comp and SS guys are all Bullys?
Sounds disrespectful to me.

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That's kinda the way I saw it also lol.

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You see my problem with the whole thing is NHRA already has a class to fit his car, I think it falls in K. But that's not what he's asking for he wants rules changed or classes added to accommodate his car like it is. If that makes me snobbish or elitist then so be it.
I do hate what happened to guys with IHRA combos, I really do but if I would have been in that situation I would take my lump and move on like you and not expect someone to change the rules to accommodate me. I can still remember many of the comments as to how IHRA was more racer friendly and the double races were the best thing since sliced bread, takes too much time away from work to run NHRA but now he wants to come play. He can advocate for it all he wants but I can be against it all I want to. Its called America.....

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QUOTE me in the proper context it was posted.
I was playing on his thinking..!
What could have been said to him by others thinking less of him.
Because he only had a Stocker !

Here is what was written in his vernacular !
"Can see the Factory COPO's, Comp and Super Stocker guys all laughing at you...
"you just race a stocker which is really a warmed over Street Car !!!!"

Then he beats his chest because he built a Stocker to run with Stockers.
As if running a Stocker is some elite club..how Tribal !

What I did was call him out on his BEHAVIOR !!
Your behaviors are childish and is called Bullying.

Get over yourselves.

D

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This one stood out to me as particularly insulting.

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Delusional Dan has some liberal friends on classracer. Congrats
We’re being bullies and class less We Race and Dan don’t anymore
Have you folks ever been divisional race ?
The best ball busters on the planet. If you don’t like the conversation get lost!
Dan is just getting his post count up. But he has nothing better to do like you folks taking sides.I ain’t seen you folks on the qualifiing sheets.
Stop picking on my friends. MJ. Cooter. BobBender Mr Jimmy Parker
They are veteran racer Who Race. There opinions mean something unlike
Bandwidth Dan. I know I’m -+$&@#. Head. But I don’t care.
And I’m a. Class Racer. In case you didn’t know. Lol

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................i need a hug..................
... i think i'll go hide in my safe place...........
.........buncha classracer bullies........
...........can i have a puppy............

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:-) :-) :-)

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Somehow in someway something I do is always starting something or stirring something up 😂

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Unless

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It wasn't you Duane. It was me when I offered Bobby a cam.

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How have you and Dave been Michael? Haven’t seen you guys in atleast 10 years. I’m going to keep my comments to myself in this. I will say of the 6 or 7 gt cars that DD is bringing up only 3 we’re actually true gt cars and not people trying to run from heads up runs. Of those 3 (1) Jeff G has commented on here on his intentions (2) John Lattimore has raced some NHRA SS gt stuff and I’ve (3) gone and raced enough opens and divisional stops get into any national event that I wanted. So I just wish he would quit bringing gt cars up. (Has ever advocated anything for the ss production cars??).

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Thank you J G

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But you don’t because is not glorified bracket racing let alone win

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The world of Democracy has many folds , each their own and so it be

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I have no idea what you're talking about and you have no idea what I do when I'm not racing NHRA races.

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sniffle

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I have to admit, I check this and the "poking the bear" thread, several times a day for updates. Its better than a TV show.
Mike A114

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Well Mike Lil Duane started this thread and asked me to help post some pictures and sheets to help bring some exposure to this new series. So after that the PS crybabies rudely took it over so I guess exposure is what we got!

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Exactly. I was asked to try to help get some exposure for this new series, because like IHRA with no exposure and no support it will go away. I feel bad for the ihra guys who did support that organization for along time and then got crapped on by the new powers to be. The sad truth about ihra atleast in my eyes is that when bill bader stepped down it died. Since then the writing was on the wall. Fields got smaller mainly because of scooter peaco and his attitude. They no longer cared about what bader had done to help bring sportsmen back in drag racing and when they did away with mountain motor pro stock and pro mod that was the final nail in the coffin. I was lucky with my father and his brother in law bill hawk I was way ahead of the curve in getting my stuff to run. Then all the years helping Jim Morgan with the top stock stuff I was able to further my program. Anyway I probably was the one of the few who could basically change the letters on the windows over to NHRA and run under the index. Did it ten years ago so nothing changed. Unfortunately there are some who can not accept the fact that NHRA is not ihra and the class they ran is now gone. So if they truely love class racing and everything it represents then they will update there car or buy one that’s ready to go. Cooter thanks for posting the sheets I texted you and I’m sorry for the people who attacked you for your choice to run NHRA. Hell if I would have known super stock was this much fun then I would have switched it over a long time ago and wouldn’t have had to worry about a place to race. NHRA is the major league and ihra was the minors. Guess I finally just got called up.

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My take on all this. I raced ihra ss production with my Camaro. I ran with them due to the fact that was what's in the area and easy for me to run. I had no idea they were on life support or I would have went with a different engine/trans combo but that's no body's fault but my own. I could change to two carbs and run NHRA modified but would be a sitting duck with this old of a car in a heads up run. I was outside looking in and then NHRA div 2 started this open and now I have a place to class race again. Many thanks to them. I never asked anyone to change rules or what they were doing it was up to me to change the car. I planning on running all the open races to support this Lord willing. And to others that could run these open race's NHRA tech is stricter than ihra ever was but that's for our safety. They have at treated me very well very fair and are truly a racer's friend.

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The NMCA still allows Pure Stockers to race

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Yup...So do all the associations!
AHRA is looking at the IHRA classes too !
Owners and associations contact me asking technical questions and what classes a car will fall in!
There is a good bit of support keeping Pure Stock.
Planning to show up to a few races this year.

Going to leave the 95SS Pure Stock.
Will finish the 69 Impala for Stock.
It has all the chassis reinforcement done.

D

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good deal

Indy -- September 21-23
You can run in the Stock/SuperStock Combo race and B3 (1/4 mile) as well

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Wow..Actually could do that too!
Right now dealing with three aging parents.
They are needing more and more care.

D

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Hi Duane, you really got the exposure for the new NHRA 1/8 Open Series! 17,933 views Wow! Now to let everyone know when the next one is occurring. Carolina Dragway, Jackson, SC (near Aiken, SC) Aug. 31-Sept. 2nd (Labor Day weekend). I signed up for my NHRA license in February and I'm grateful to Division 2 for giving me a place to race my crate motor Camaro. I could go back to the 305, that I raced for 10 years in my 1985 Camaro for J/SA, but I think the 350 is so much more fun and the wheel stand pictures are much better. Thank you Billy Plage! After we finished paying for daycare for our baby, Mama got a motor. Now our baby is ready to get her driver's permit.

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Hopefully this series continues to get cars and exposure, maybe just about actual racing next time lol!

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Cooter, you're just a stones throw away from most these NHRA races....show up and race for a Wally like you did at Galot! It's actually a well put together event.

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If you had a fully IHRA-legal Pure Stock car, what mandatory changes (if any) would you have to make to it to be able to run the equivalent NHRA Stock class. I mean just to pass Tech, not anything to do with performance modifications.

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Mike, just a suggestion, and I'm not trying to "beat-up" on anyone here, but this seems like a question best asked AND answered in its own thread post. Duane and Cooter did an awesome job trying to promote the NHRA Division #2 1/8-mile program that Rich and his crew put together for us, but somehow this thread got WAY OFF topic. Maybe we should give things a rest - at least until the next event! :)



If you're interested in what the differences are between what a IHRA Pure Stock "was" like, and what modifications would be necessary to make it competitive as a "legal" NHRA Stocker, I'm sure a post in the Tech Section would garner a whole lot of great information! You might also do a thread search for any archived posts.

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The main thing to switch if the “pure stock” set up to a legal NHRA stocker set up is safety items such as s roll bar etc. without the changes to the engine I doubt you’ll ever run the NHRA index (unless it was a illegal pure stocker)


Stacie I told you at piedmont the best way to convert your car over to a regular NHRA car and then be able to run more divisionals and nationals.

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You're right, Lew. I just dropped that question because the thread did get side tracked and I thought a thoughtful discussion might diffuse some of the heat that was building up.