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gks1050 07-16-2019 10:05 AM

Re: Horsepower on tuesday
 
"Haters and Drama" Jeff did you ever think that you create that? I raced Cody heads up a few years ago in Vegas . I noticed your weight sticker after we flipped the coin. 2780 lbs the class min in ss/bs is 2850lbs I talked too Cody and said he needs too add 70 lbs too get too class minimum. I talked too you and you told Cody too pull the car up. I told you then you dont want too do that. You guys did and 25 minutes later Cody was tossed. In the Dragster a while later I read it was a 'misunderstanding". I dont beleive that is a misunderstanding. I told you what was going too happen before we raced. Thats my 2 cents Put it towards a Rule book or a mirror. Grant Singer

SS734 07-16-2019 11:53 AM

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What is the actual rule for a DQ'd run after you already made a good run and you are on the Ladder?

Bryan Worner 07-16-2019 12:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SS734 (Post 592574)
What is the actual rule for a DQ'd run after you already made a good run and you are on the Ladder?

If it’s only a situation where you legitimately came up 10 lbs light on the scales, that run does not count but you are still on the sheet. If it’s a different violation, like fuel, you may be dq’d from the race if you can’t pass fuel check. If it’s something illegal found by tech, you are dq’d from the event, well you should be, and suspended (again, should be).

Bryan Worner 07-16-2019 12:40 PM

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We, the honest class racers, need to band together and MNHRAGA!!!!!

Billy Nees 07-16-2019 01:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 592581)
We, the honest class racers, need to band together and MNHRAGA!!!!!

Looks like a money-making bumper sticker AND hat to me!

KRatcliff 07-16-2019 01:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 592585)
Looks like a money-making bumper sticker AND hat to me!

Contingency sticker?

Rusty2211 07-16-2019 03:50 PM

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I'll take two t-shirts (XXL) and a skull cap - MNHRAGA

HR9121 07-16-2019 04:02 PM

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Looks like an opportunity here for Butner to make some shirts. Bryan maybe you can get some royalties.

Jeff Niceswanger 07-16-2019 04:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 592581)
We, the honest class racers, need to band together and MNHRAGA!!!!!

Bryan, since your a union guy, make the logo

MNHRAGA
Locals
1-2-3-4-5-6-and 7

ssracer3821 07-16-2019 05:21 PM

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NHRA just announced Corvette got 10

Bryan Worner 07-16-2019 05:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 592600)
Looks like an opportunity here for Butner to make some shirts. Bryan maybe you can get some royalties.

I’m not taking the credit here. A fellow Super Stock racer came up with MNHRAGA!

Mepprecht 07-16-2019 05:54 PM

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Good job NHRA.

Ed Carpenter 07-16-2019 06:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gks1050 (Post 592569)
"Haters and Drama" Jeff did you ever think that you create that? I raced Cody heads up a few years ago in Vegas . I noticed your weight sticker after we flipped the coin. 2780 lbs the class min in ss/bs is 2850lbs I talked too Cody and said he needs too add 70 lbs too get too class minimum. I talked too you and you told Cody too pull the car up. I told you then you dont want too do that. You guys did and 25 minutes later Cody was tossed. In the Dragster a while later I read it was a 'misunderstanding". I dont beleive that is a misunderstanding. I told you what was going too happen before we raced. Thats my 2 cents Put it towards a Rule book or a mirror. Grant Singer

Wow I’ve heard some stories since this started seems like this type of stuff happens a lot with this group.

HR9121 07-16-2019 07:57 PM

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I got to admit I never thought they would get the hp so good job by NHRA. Now this leads me to believe NHRA had some reasonable proof that they dropped the weight at the end of the track and that in fact it was a legal pass so therefore I wonder if there will be disciplinary action taken........

Rick Kolber 07-16-2019 10:47 PM

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Just when I thought NHRA did not give a s**t about STK elim....

farmco r/sa 07-17-2019 10:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 592617)
I got to admit I never thought they would get the hp so good job by NHRA. Now this leads me to believe NHRA had some reasonable proof that they dropped the weight at the end of the track and that in fact it was a legal pass so therefore I wonder if there will be disciplinary action taken........


This thread and the nearly 34,000 views probably
had a big part in it. ;)

Rod Greene 07-17-2019 10:24 AM

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This has been an interesting read. Recently another Corvette went more than 1.20 under and he stood up and owned it and took the hit. Big difference in character.

Bob Smith 07-17-2019 10:44 AM

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Where does it say this combo got 10 HP? I do not see that on any of the NHRA websites.

4543 07-17-2019 10:58 AM

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It was on the nhracompetition website but is not there now.

Billy Nees 07-17-2019 11:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 4543 (Post 592646)
It was on the nhracompetition website but is not there now.

The plot thickens!

Carguy49 07-17-2019 11:20 AM

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You have now entered the Twilight Zone. Please don't adjust your T.V. We control everything.

The info was there last night. Now it is gone.

Rat Raceway 07-17-2019 11:29 AM

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Drag Race Central "LODRS 6-4 Stock Eliminator Qualifying" no where to be found either...:eek:

KRatcliff 07-17-2019 11:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rat Raceway (Post 592656)
Drag Race Central "LODRS 6-4 Stock Eliminator Qualifying" no where to be found either...:eek:

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r=100#indextop

Adub464Q 07-17-2019 11:34 AM

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It is still showing the hit on the classification sheets.

Both 1973 and 1974.

Carguy49 07-17-2019 11:36 AM

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Friday order and Saturday final order both still there.

KRatcliff 07-17-2019 11:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adub464Q (Post 592659)
It is still showing the hit on the classification sheets.

Both 1973 and 1974.

You are right it is there now. It wasn't earlier this morning when the website first came back up. Looks like they are rebuilding the file.

farmco r/sa 07-17-2019 11:45 AM

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[QUOTE=Billy Nees;592650]The plot thickens![/


Still anxiously eating popcorn and watching :p

gsa612 07-17-2019 11:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carguy49 (Post 592660)
Friday order and Saturday final order both still there.

To get Fridays order click on archives 2019 (July) and scroll down. gsa612

Dan Fahey 07-17-2019 01:10 PM

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More than 1.20 under. Pro Stock... Stockers. !
They are going quicker than early Pro Stockers.

Tom Meyer 07-17-2019 02:07 PM

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Horsepower adjustments following the NHRA Lucas Oil Division 6 event in Woodburn, OR




7/16/2019

As the result of runs under the Automatic Horsepower Factoring System (AHFS) 1.20-second under policy at the NHRA Division 6 event, the following change has been made.

The horsepower rating for 73-74 Chevrolet Corvette, entries with the 350 cubic inch engine and a factory rating of 190-195 currently rated at 283, has been increased by ten horsepower, to 293 horsepower; for Stock Eliminator.

NHRA's 2019 Automatic Horsepower Factoring System outlines that any run of 1.20-seconds or more under the index will receive an immediate index decrease or horsepower increase. These changes are effective July 16, 2019.

Billy Nees 07-17-2019 02:13 PM

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http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...577&zoneid=132

Bruce Fulper 07-18-2019 02:46 AM

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C'mon....guys. Man, it's pretty damn simple to me. These Lane guys are smart. And they knew if they waited long enough the heat in all of the engine and surrounding metals would cool, adding lots of oxygen molecules to it thus making the car heavier and la-la, make weight.


Really.

Race Clean 07-18-2019 04:29 AM

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You can't help to think how this whole deal would turned out if it was a 396 Camaro that was involved, it would probably have been a 50/50 situation on here:)

Larry Hill 07-18-2019 06:37 AM

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I thought it was a 427 Camaro

Billy Nees 07-18-2019 08:25 AM

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Does this have anything to do with what's going on here?

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...579&zoneid=132

Gary Parker 07-18-2019 09:48 AM

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That is because last year I let them know that the 1973 has a different body and , intake manifold .I asked them to separate the 1974 and 1973 corvettes.. They answered me saying not only are the body and intake different but the 73 has different head. Now after getting the horsepower increase I wrote and reminded them that last year they separated us in the year end stats. This was there answer. With the stroke of a pen they made the parts legal on the 1974.

Charley Downing 07-18-2019 09:53 AM

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Once again a -1.20 run with no tear down (Thanks Div 6 for confirming you are the weakest div of the 7). Why is it so hard to check spec's and make sure the combo is 100% right after some earns hp for a combo NHRA? If I had that combo I would protest Lane the next race just on principal and the works rod piston,everything.


NHRA Runs of -1.20 or faster should be automatic tear down NO MATTER WHAT LBS THE CAR CROSSED THE SCALES AT.

NHRA Runs of -1.00 should be a mandatory carb/throttle body check and casting numbers.

This will stop a lot of the BS problems we have now in SS and STK on heads up runs

I guess if NHRA is not going to do this the group of racers in D3 will try and keep our div some what on the up and up(More protest to come).

kansas stocker 07-18-2019 10:01 AM

Re: Horsepower on tuesday
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 592721)
Once again a -1.20 run with no tear down (Thanks Div 6 for confirming you are the weakest div of the 7). Why is it so hard to check spec's and make sure the combo is 100% right after some earns hp for a combo NHRA? If I had that combo I would protest Lane the next race just on principal and the works rod piston,everything.


NHRA Runs of -1.20 or faster should be automatic tear down NO MATTER WHAT LBS THE CAR CROSSED THE SCALES AT.

NHRA Runs of -1.00 should be a mandatory carb/throttle body check and casting numbers.

This will stop a lot of the BS problems we have now in SS and STK on heads up runs

I guess if NHRA is not going to do this the group of racers in D3 will try and keep our div some what on the up and up(More protest to come).

And an automatic year off if you don't tear down.

Jerry Terry 07-18-2019 10:22 AM

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I thought that was the norm if you didn't tear down you were out for a year and when you came back you had to tear down then,I didn't know they ever changed that ?
Jerry
Retired 3490 3492 Stk SS SST

rick winchester 07-18-2019 10:32 AM

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Gary, check your pm. Rick


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