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Billy Nees 07-26-2020 03:30 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 619403)
I have a question for you; what do you do in the case of rape or incest that results in a pregnancy?

In the city of N.Y., you get let out with no bond so that you can do it again! Or just murder your accuser.

Superfan1 07-26-2020 03:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CMcAllister (Post 619349)
Yes sir, you do. For now. Although it seems some voices are being shouted down and forced to shut up or pay the consequences, depending on who's attention you have attracted.

Might I suggest that the Dem party of today is vastly different from the days of Kennedy and even Clinton. Might I also suggest you look at what the Dems stand for, advocate for and what their vision for America really is. I may be wrong, but I have a hard time believing you have a good understanding of who's running the show and what this country will look like next summer if Joe wins and his handlers are running the show.

I do not support the "radical left" as in AOC and the Green New Deal. I am a moderately liberal Denocrat and so is Biden which is why I strongly support him.

Billy Nees 07-26-2020 03:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 619403)
you have your belief and I have mine.

Now Bill, I have a question for you!
I believe that I'm responsible enough and smart enough to accept responsibility for my own actions. I don't feel the need to "shelter-in-place" and I feel that this whole covid thing is being used as a political tool. Can I go Racing now?
You have your belief and I have mine and they both have potentially life-threatening consequences!

BRETV 07-26-2020 03:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 619403)
The answer is that you evidently believe that life begins at conception; and I believe that life begins at birth. You are Pro Life and I am Pro Choice; you have your belief and I have mine.
I have a question for you; what do you do in the case of rape or incest that results in a pregnancy? Are you still against the woman's right to have an abortion?

You guys always love to bring up rape and incest, that percentage is so minute it doesn't even come into the equation. So if life begins at birth why do you have do physically kill it or poison it if it's not alive?




Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

Superfan1 07-26-2020 03:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 619330)
Ditto on the Thanks.
Now Bill, If I remember , you were one of the few preaching for maximum caution, a few months ago..Stay home .Wear your masks everywhere...DON'T bring the virus home to your loved ones, etc. Fast forward to July, when some wishy washy governor four states away gives an okay, off you go to the races..What makes YOU so sure it was the right thing to do, all of a sudden? Why can't the state of Colorado exhibit the same precautions? That's the point of this thread, and probably why a few un-named folks here got called out.
Anybody else see a bunch of liberal hypocrisy here?

My wife and I wore masks everywhere on the trip to Ohio, at the track, and on the way back to CT. We stayed at a Candlewood Suites which had a full kitchen, so we cooked in our room instead of going to a restaurant. I brought hand sanitizing wipes to use in the room on high contact surfaces. As you can see, I still believe in caution; and when I go to Indy in Sept., assuming there will be Indy in Sept., I will use the same common sense caution.

Mike Jones 07-26-2020 03:52 PM

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In Stock at Topeka 2, Romero over Beason.... carry on.

Ken Miele 07-26-2020 04:10 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 619372)
The owner of this site makes the rules and how they are enforced, certainly his prerogative. I have read more than one post by the site owner threatening members that they will have their accounts deleted if they mention Covid19. Seems Teddy, Mr. Quinn and Mr. Wells have swollen testicles when the site owner has their back.

BTW Mr Quinn, The fact that you find even one Covid19 death humorous
speaks volumes.

I better stop, I prefer to keep my posting privilages if possible.

pS


So Mr. Sarvas, you use the word threaten. So if I say you are skating on thin ice you would feel threatened? I don't have a problem with members having a different view than mine. My problem is when a member mentions cnn as a source. If you want to debate use logic, not emotion. People die of many things, should we just stop living because of hardships that all people face.


I dont believe masks doing anything, and if you believe they do, why can't we open everything up. This is a all political to bring down the president. That's my opinion, if you feel im wrong, explain in a logical way why you feel differently. Be careful, I still may boot you...lol.

Billy Nees 07-26-2020 04:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 619412)
Be careful, I still may boot you...lol.

Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy.

CMcAllister 07-26-2020 04:32 PM

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I hate this $#!&. I hate that regardless the subject or the activity, political BS gets in the way. And make no mistake, this virus crap, the riots - 100% political at this point. Restrictions and shutdown for a month or two - maybe justified. We were all kind of afraid of the unknown, but the experts used numbers like 1,000,000 dead to scare us. And nearly 6 months later, we still aren't really open in any real way, despite what "they" say.

Forums should be focused on the subject of interest in the title at the top of the page. Politics and religion should be saved for places where those are the main topics. But it's become impossible when government and politics have been allowed or forced into every part of everyone's day, regardless what you are doing. You can't go to the store for a loaf of bread without having to deal with crap some politician decided you should have to deal with.

I miss the days when you could load up your junk, drive to the track and not worry about being accosted by DOT cops. Not worry about the EPA outlawing your late model race car. Not have to worry that the next great idea will make it impossible to do something you've enjoyed for years without committing a felony. Not have to worry about every tiny little piece of BS that the government has come up with in order to solve a problem that they made up. The days when you could just focus on work and the car and going racing and you took for granted politics would just work itself out without tearing the country to pieces. Businesses are falling by the wayside, activities are being cancelled, no one knows what the future will be and we are about at the "eff it 'till next year" point.

It's become a huge dumpster fire. There is a huge culture war that has been going on and is about to get hot and unless your name is Trump, Obama, Soros, Bloomberg, Pelosi, Schumer, or a few others, you're just a peon stuck in the middle and suffering the consequences. The Constitution is toilet paper, the free press is propaganda, history is being eliminated, America is the devil and the Governor of New Jersey doesn't give a damn about the Bill of Rights, but at least he admits it, which is more than most will do.

I blame both sides. One for becoming radicalized and pushing it, the other for allowing it. The faux Conservatives owned it all for 2 years, Trump was ready to sign whatever they passed to fix all of the bad stuff, and they screwed around, made excuses and in the end, did very little.

I'm not really interested in rioting, burning, looting, throwing bricks at cops, so that leaves me wondering which activities, I might actually prefer to participate in, will survive and be allowed for the rest of this year and into the future. I'm ready for this year to be a bad memory, go to PRI without hearing the words "mask" or "social distancing" and work in the shop without having to wonder if there will actually be a racetrack to go to. Without wondering if a bunch of a-holes and their pals at city hall will get their wish and start another civil war. And maybe going to the track again next year without caring whether the other people there are Democrats or Republicans.

Jeff Stout 07-26-2020 04:45 PM

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Still have not heard from any dems on here why Bandimere is closed while other venues are open. Your democratic leaders have the answers. Maybe you can let us all know in on why.

SSGT Mustang 07-26-2020 05:03 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 619403)
The answer is that you evidently believe that life begins at conception; and I believe that life begins at birth. You are Pro Life and I am Pro Choice; you have your belief and I have mine.
I have a question for you; what do you do in the case of rape or incest that results in a pregnancy? Are you still against the woman's right to have an abortion?

Since you and your democrat pals are so concerned with human life, why don't you take a look at this.

"A total of 623,471 abortions for 2016 were reported to CDC from 48 reporting areas".

Here's the source. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/ss/ss6811a1.htm

The site has data all the way back to 1979.

Since you think that over a half a million abortions a year don't matter, maybe you can take a look at crime statistics from the Burea of Justice Statistics to see how ever democrat run city is rife with crime, particularly homicides.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/oklelc18.pdf

I can't wait to get to the part about your "centrist moderate" hero, Joe Biden. There's 40 years of data on him.

Notice how I don't need to use CNN or other incredibly biases sources and that's being kind..

Casey Miles 07-26-2020 05:07 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 619405)
I do not support the "radical left" as in AOC and the Green New Deal. I am a moderately liberal Denocrat and so is Biden which is why I strongly support him.

“Ukraine judge orders Joe Biden be listed as alleged perpetrator of crime in prosecutor’s firing”
“The infamous story of Joe Biden’s effort to force the firing of Ukraine’s chief prosecutor in 2016 has taken a new legal twist in Kiev
In Kiev late last month, District Court Judge S. V. Vovk ordered the country’s law enforcement services to formally list the fired prosecutor, Victor Shokin, as the victim of an alleged crime by the former U.S. vice president, according to an official English translation of the ruling obtained by Just the News.

You will not see this in the regular main stream media now will you?

Casey Miles

SSGT Mustang 07-26-2020 05:16 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 619418)
“Ukraine judge orders Joe Biden be listed as alleged perpetrator of crime in prosecutor’s firing”
“The infamous story of Joe Biden’s effort to force the firing of Ukraine’s chief prosecutor in 2016 has taken a new legal twist in Kiev
In Kiev late last month, District Court Judge S. V. Vovk ordered the country’s law enforcement services to formally list the fired prosecutor, Victor Shokin, as the victim of an alleged crime by the former U.S. vice president, according to an official English translation of the ruling obtained by Just the News.

You will not see this in the regular main stream media now will you?

Casey Miles

Don't forget about the money there, China and everywhere else.

Paul Sarvas 07-26-2020 05:30 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yo Ken (Post 617563)
I don't usually get upset when members blatantly ignore posting about covid on Class Racer, but if you continue to hijack this thread you will be removed. I don't give a dam about your opinion on covid. And please don't quote the media, that's an insult to all of us. You have been warned, and if you respond to this post you will be removed. I suggest you stick to race related posts. Ken

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 618733)
This is so over blown and if I have to here from another member about we need to listen to our leaders and the media, I will remove them for good!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 619412)
So Mr. Sarvas, you use the word threaten. So if I say you are skating on thin ice you would feel threatened? I don't have a problem with members having a different view than mine. My problem is when a member mentions cnn as a source.

Sorry Mr. Miele but I don't get the skating on thin ice analogy. Anyways, after reading your posts do I think my life is being threatened? Certainly not. However, how should members take your "I'll remove them for good" post? If they mention Covid19 or media (CNN) in the main lobby they're out? That's how I took it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 619412)
I dont believe masks doing anything, and if you believe they do, why can't we open everything up.

Some people in office feel their responsibility to protect the public is more important than auto racing. If I owned a race car, I would be disappointed if I couldn't race. I'm sure it sux. If you don't like decisions politicians make, advocate for change.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 619412)
This is a all political to bring down the president. That's my opinion, if you feel im wrong, explain in a logical way why you feel differently.

Sorry sir, I really don't think 140,000 Americans jumped in body bags just to bring down the president. I just don't...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 619412)
Be careful, I still may boot you...lol.

That would be most unfortunate...


pS

Paul Sarvas 07-26-2020 05:34 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 619413)
Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy.


Looks like the lynch mob is out. Got yer pitch fork at the ready Billy?


pS

CMcAllister 07-26-2020 05:36 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 619403)
The answer is that you evidently believe that life begins at conception; and I believe that life begins at birth. You are Pro Life and I am Pro Choice; you have your belief and I have mine.
I have a question for you; what do you do in the case of rape or incest that results in a pregnancy? Are you still against the woman's right to have an abortion?

Full term, premature? How premature? Viable? A fetus is not alive? Or just a mass of cells? Explain the people who have survived a botched abortion and are walking around today. Or the people who were delivered and survived after a mother was killed in an accident. Are they alive? Viable? Rare? Yes, but it proves your belief to be incorrect.

First of all, there is no "right" other than the one made up by the pro-choice crowd. And hiding behind phrases like "women's health" is disgusting. If there is a real "need" to end a pregnancy - legitimate health of the mother, rape, etc. - or any other reason, it should be required to be done before a determined point early in the pregnancy. Before the fetus has a heartbeat, which is part of the law in several states, is a good start. Or within a few months of conception. You want choice? Fine. Make it early or not at all.

Nothing to do with Bandimere but there it is and I'm done with it now.

Paul Sarvas 07-26-2020 05:37 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CMcAllister (Post 619414)
I hate this $#!&. I hate that regardless the subject or the activity, political BS gets in the way. And makes no mistake, this virus crap, the riots - 100% political at this point. Restrictions and shutdown for a month or two - maybe justified. We were all kind of afraid of the unknown, but the experts used numbers like 1,000,000 dead to scare us. And nearly 6 months later, we still aren't really open in any real way, despite what "they" say.

Forums should be focused on the subject of interest in the title at the top of the page. Politics and religion should be saved for places where those are the main topics. But it's become impossible when government and politics have been allowed or forced into every part of everyone's day, regardless what you are doing. You can't go to the store for a loaf of bread without having to deal with crap some politician decided you should have to deal with.

I miss the days when you could load up your junk, drive to the track and not worry about being accosted by DOT cops. Not worry about the EPA outlawing your late model race car. Not have to worry that the next great idea will make it impossible to do something you've enjoyed for years without committing a felony. Not have to worry about every tiny little piece of BS that the government has come up with in order to solve a problem that they made up. The days when you could just focus on work and the car and going racing and you took for granted politics would just work itself out without tearing the country to pieces. Businesses are falling by the wayside, activities are being cancelled, no one knows what the future will be and we are about at the "eff it 'till next year" point.

It's become a huge dumpster fire. There is a huge culture war that has been going on and is about to get hot and unless your name is Trump, Obama, Soros, Bloomberg, Pelosi, Schumer, or a few others, you're just a peon stuck in the middle and suffering the consequences. The Constitution is toilet paper, the free press in propaganda, history is being eliminated, America is the devil and the Governor of New Jersey doesn't give a damn about the Bill of Rights, but at least he admits it, which is more than most will do.

I blame both sides. One for becoming radicalized and pushing it, the other for allowing it. The faux Conservatives owned it all for 2 years, Trump was ready to sign whatever they passed to fix all of the bad stuff, and they screwed around, made excuses and in the end, did very little.

I'm not really interested in rioting, burning, looting, throwing bricks at cops, so that leaves me wondering which activities, I might actually prefer to participate in, will survive and be allowed for the rest of this year and into the future. I'm ready for this year to be a bad memory, go to PRI without hearing the words "mask" or "social distancing" and work in the shop without having to wonder if there will actually be a racetrack to go to. Without wondering if a bunch of a-holes and their pals at city hall will get their wish and start another civil war. And maybe going to the track again next year without caring whether the other people there are Democrats or Republicans.


Yawn...


pS

CMcAllister 07-26-2020 05:39 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 619405)
I do not support the "radical left" as in AOC and the Green New Deal. I am a moderately liberal Denocrat and so is Biden which is why I strongly support him.

Perhaps you should pay attention to the words that have been put on his teleprompter lately. The moderates are being run off.

Billy Nees 07-26-2020 05:41 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 619421)
Sorry sir, I really don't think 140,000 Americans jumped in body bags just to bring down the president. I just don't...pS

Paul, could you enlighten me to the number of people who have died from the common flu this year? Pneumonia? Have these diseases been miraculously cured?
My sweetie's cousin died from a stroke that was brought on by stage 5 kidney disease. Cause of death? Covid-19. If you would like, I'll send you a copy of the death certificate. He may well have HAD Covid-19 when he passed but it didn't KILL him.

Mark Yacavone 07-26-2020 05:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 619395)
Honest to God Teddy, you're like the squealer in grade school that would tattle when kids would shoot spitballs at the teacher...sheesh


pS

If you don't like what happens here, then pack your ***** and leave.
This is a drag racing site, for racers and fans , so I'm not going away ..You, on the other hand,..might be a different story

SSGT Mustang 07-26-2020 05:58 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 619426)
Paul, could you enlighten me to the number of people who have died from the common flu this year? Pneumonia? Have these diseases been miraculously cured?
My sweetie's cousin died from a stroke that was brought on by stage 5 kidney disease. Cause of death? Covid-19. If you would like, I'll send you a copy of the death certificate. He may well have HAD Covid-19 when he passed but it didn't KILL him.

Whatever you do don't mention that hospitals get more federal money for every covid patient they report. Definitely don't mention the two states that have clamped down hardest Trump won 2016.

None of this has anything to do with mail-in voting and stealing the election in November.

What difference does it make that millions are out of work, companies are going under, and people are working from home while trying to educate their children? Forget about the Constitution and how civil liberties being trampled on.

Do you want to riot and loot? Go for it. Do you want to go to church? Go to jail.

Superfan1 07-26-2020 06:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 619426)
Paul, could you enlighten me to the number of people who have died from the common flu this year? Pneumonia? Have these diseases been miraculously cured?
My sweetie's cousin died from a stroke that was brought on by stage 5 kidney disease. Cause of death? Covid-19. If you would like, I'll send you a copy of the death certificate. He may well have HAD Covid-19 when he passed but it didn't KILL him.

Billy, about 50,000 people die from the flu each year, and a similar number die from pneumonia; figure about 100,000 from the 2 diseases combined. Even if you discount the reported COVID-19 death toll; and reduce it from the reported 146,000+ to 100,000, it still has killed the same number of people in a much shorter time span. Also both the flu and pneumonia can be treated with an assortment of anti-viral drugs; the only treatment for COVID-19 is Remdesivir.

Billy Nees 07-26-2020 06:14 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 619422)
Got yer pitch fork at the ready Billy?


pS

Paul, it's easier to get rid of $hi+ with a shovel than it is a pitch fork.

Billy Nees 07-26-2020 06:17 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 619429)
Billy, about 50,000 people die from the flu each year, and a similar number die from pneumonia; figure about 100,000 from the 2 diseases combined. Even if you discount the reported COVID-19 death toll; and reduce it from the reported 146,000+ to 100,000, it still has killed the same number of people in a much shorter time span. Also both the flu and pneumonia can be treated with an assortment of anti-viral drugs; the only treatment for COVID-19 is Remdesivir.

Bill, you haven't answered the question. How many have died from the common flu and pneumonia THIS year?

Ken Miele 07-26-2020 06:17 PM

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No point it quoting you Sarvas as you have posted the typical liberal talking points. Nothing new or enlightening, just numbers that can not be confirmed. Even if it were accurate.... 330 million people live in the US, a 140 thousand deaths is less than .04%. Hardly a pandemic that has ruined peoples lives and businesses

Yes, you should be worried... i said covid and cnn in the same context, if you think cnn is a viable news source we have nothing more to say.

Ken Miele 07-26-2020 06:41 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Here you go Billy.... that first number is pretty bad. Why hasn't our trusted government officials mandate masks to protect us. This is 2019-2020 flu season right from the trusted cdc

39,000,000 – 56,000,000
flu illnesses



18,000,000 – 26,000,000
flu medical visits



410,000 – 740,000
flu hospitalizations


24,000 – 62,000
deaths

CMcAllister 07-26-2020 06:45 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 619412)
People die of many things, should we just stop living because of hardships that all people face.

"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God"

Quote:

I dont believe masks doing anything, and if you believe they do, why can't we open everything up.
The new must have fashion accessory, in cool colors and styles - for dumb people. If it makes you feel better and let's businesses and tracks open up, wear it. I'll take my chances with fresh air. If it helps get stuff open and paying customers in the door, I'll wear it grudgingly.


Quote:

This is a all political to bring down the president.
I do not believe in coincidences. The riots and protests are 100% an attack on the rule of law, the legitimacy of elections past and future, democracy, history, capitalism and Trump. Financed, controlled and directed by bad actors here and abroad.

I believe the Chinavirus was created by the Chinese and may have been turned loose as a response to Trump's efforts to stop them from beating the US like a red-headed step child, like past presidents and Congress have allowed them to do for decades. Less likely is that they let it get loose by accident. I have no doubt that the Chinese would have no problem with a doomsday type attack to eliminate Trump and get their bought and paid for people back in control.

Paul Sarvas 07-26-2020 06:47 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 619433)

39,000,000 – 56,000,000
flu illnesses



18,000,000 – 26,000,000
flu medical visits



410,000 – 740,000
flu hospitalizations


24,000 – 62,000
deaths


Covid19 - 140,000 deaths


What's the point?


pS

Yo Ken 07-26-2020 06:58 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Wow... are you that stupid. 39 million have gotten the flu staring 2019...pretty much the same number as the last flu season... why were we not wearing masks to protect everyone in th past. Does 40 to 60 thousand deaths mean anything to you, man you are heartless

Only about 4 million got covid and people like you are freaking because of your so called trusted leaders.

Stan Weiss 07-26-2020 07:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 619432)
No point it quoting you Sarvas as you have posted the typical liberal talking points. Nothing new or enlightening, just numbers that can not be confirmed. Even if it were accurate.... 330 million people live in the US, a 140 thousand deaths is less than .04%. Hardly a pandemic that has ruined peoples lives and businesses

Yes, you should be worried... i said covid and cnn in the same context, if you think cnn is a viable news source we have nothing more to say.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 619433)
Here you go Billy.... that first number is pretty bad. Why hasn't our trusted government officials mandate masks to protect us. This is 2019-2020 flu season right from the trusted cdc

39,000,000 – 56,000,000
flu illnesses



18,000,000 – 26,000,000
flu medical visits



410,000 – 740,000
flu hospitalizations


24,000 – 62,000
deaths



Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 619436)
Covid19 - 140,000 deaths


What's the point?


pS


► (62000 / 33000000) * 100 = 0.01879%


► (140000 / 330000000) * 100 = 0.04242%


► (0.04242 / 0.01879) * 100 = 225.758% Higher in half the time.


Stan

Stan Weiss 07-26-2020 07:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yo Ken (Post 619439)
Wow... are you that stupid. 39 million have gotten the flu staring 2019...pretty much the same number as the last flu season... why were we not wearing masks to protect everyone in th past. Does 40 to 60 thousand deaths mean anything to you, man you are heartless

Only about 4 million got covid and people like you are freaking because of your so called trusted leaders.


Really! So it more important how many get it than how many die from it?

Stan

CMcAllister 07-26-2020 07:06 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 619421)
If you don't like decisions politicians make, advocate for change.
pS

Obama told us that once...and we did. And the left have been bitching and crying and impeaching and trying to reverse the results ever since. So now what do we do?

Quote:

Sorry sir, I really don't think 140,000 Americans jumped in body bags just to bring down the president. I just don't...
They didn't jump, they were pushed. At least the ones who actually died from Chinavirus and didn't have it put on their paperwork so people could get paid and cook the numbers. We have been underestimating the savagery and lack of value for human life from the Red Chinese for many years and need to wise up.

SSGT Mustang 07-26-2020 07:06 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 619436)
Covid19 - 140,000 deaths


What's the point?


pS

You yawned a while back. Is it that exhausting being a dolt? I wouldn't know but am anxious to hear your experience.

Why don't you go here and do some reading

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...veillance.html.

Start with probalbe covid deaths. The unconfirmed type.

Never mind, here you go.

"A probable case or death is defined as:

A person meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19;

A person meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence;

A person meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19."

Then go here

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ing-in-us.html

Pay attention now.

"These data are compiled from a number of sources. Not all tests are reported to CDC.
The number of positive tests in a state is not equal to the number of cases, as one person may be tested more than once."

Then try this and pay attention to the fourth paragraph.

"CDC tracks COVID-19 illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths to monitor trends, detect where outbreaks are occurring, and determine whether public health measures are working. However, counting exact numbers of COVID-19 cases is not possible because COVID-19 can cause mild illness, symptoms might not appear immediately, there are delays in reporting and testing, not everyone who is infected gets tested or seeks medical care, and there are differences in how completely states and territories report their cases.

COVID-19 is one of about 120 diseases or conditions health departments voluntarily report to CDC. State, local, and territorial public health departments verify and report cases to CDC. When there are differences between numbers of cases reported by CDC versus by health departments, data reported by health departments should be considered the most up to date. Health departments may update case data over time when they receive more complete and accurate information. The number of new cases reported each day fluctuates. There is generally less reporting on the weekends and holidays.

CDC reports death data on three sections of the website: U.S. Cases & Deaths, COVID Data Tracker, and NCHS Provisional Death Counts. U.S. Cases and COVID Data Tracker get their information from the same source (total case counts); however, NCHS Death Counts are based on death certificates that use information reported by physicians, medical examiners, or coroners in the cause-of-death section of each certificate.

Data from each of these pages are considered provisional (not complete and pending verification) and are therefore subject to change.

Counts from previous weeks are continually revised as more records are received and processed. Because not all jurisdictions report counts daily, counts may increase at different intervals.

Michael K 07-26-2020 07:08 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Some science: The masks being used can't stop a microscopic virus.


An opinion: An open air event such as a drag race is much more safe than any type of closed quarters facility i.e. a hospital, clinic, or supermarket.

Paul Sarvas 07-26-2020 07:10 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yo Ken (Post 619439)
Wow... are you that stupid. Does 40 to 60 thousand deaths mean anything to you, man you are heartless.

Mr. Miele, thank you for responding to my post...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Yo Ken (Post 619439)
people like you are freaking.

Geez, I don't think I'm "freaking". Pity our conversation has turned sour.


pS

Yo Ken 07-26-2020 07:14 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 619443)
Really! So it more important how many get it than how many die from it?

Stan

Yes

Yo Ken 07-26-2020 07:20 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Sarvas, you bring no substance or intelligent conversation. Your just looking to instigate. Your days are number, I will let the others handle you, I have grown tired of you. You are so typical of a liberal mind. Emotion without logic.

Yo Ken 07-26-2020 07:52 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 619442)
► (62000 / 33000000) * 100 = 0.01879%


► (140000 / 330000000) * 100 = 0.04242%


► (0.04242 / 0.01879) * 100 = 225.758% Higher in half the time.


Stan


Stan, statics that fit your narrative. I knew that was coming. So tell me why the government does not protect us from heart disease. Why don't they just force us all to eat healthy food. It would save hundreds of thousands of lives a year. Heck lets just lower the speed limit to 10 miles an hour, that would save even more.



Stan, not sure you realize this, but life is fragile, and we all die someday. get off your high horse and let people get on with there lives, even if its dangerous.

doglover44 07-26-2020 08:05 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
When will all this end ?

Casey Miles 07-26-2020 08:14 PM

Re: Bandimere shut down
 
(140000 / 330000000) * 100 = 0.04242%

The only problem with your math, is that all haven't died from Covid19, there was a gun shot killing on Long Island, he died of Covid, there was a young man killed on a motorcycle here in Fl, he also died of Covid.
The numbers are bogus, knowing the way hospitals work with greed, they put in the death certificate that it was a Covid death because they receive extra monies from the government, I think it's about $14K per death.

Casey Miles


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