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I believe that I'm responsible enough and smart enough to accept responsibility for my own actions. I don't feel the need to "shelter-in-place" and I feel that this whole covid thing is being used as a political tool. Can I go Racing now? You have your belief and I have mine and they both have potentially life-threatening consequences! |
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In Stock at Topeka 2, Romero over Beason.... carry on.
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So Mr. Sarvas, you use the word threaten. So if I say you are skating on thin ice you would feel threatened? I don't have a problem with members having a different view than mine. My problem is when a member mentions cnn as a source. If you want to debate use logic, not emotion. People die of many things, should we just stop living because of hardships that all people face. I dont believe masks doing anything, and if you believe they do, why can't we open everything up. This is a all political to bring down the president. That's my opinion, if you feel im wrong, explain in a logical way why you feel differently. Be careful, I still may boot you...lol. |
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I hate this $#!&. I hate that regardless the subject or the activity, political BS gets in the way. And make no mistake, this virus crap, the riots - 100% political at this point. Restrictions and shutdown for a month or two - maybe justified. We were all kind of afraid of the unknown, but the experts used numbers like 1,000,000 dead to scare us. And nearly 6 months later, we still aren't really open in any real way, despite what "they" say.
Forums should be focused on the subject of interest in the title at the top of the page. Politics and religion should be saved for places where those are the main topics. But it's become impossible when government and politics have been allowed or forced into every part of everyone's day, regardless what you are doing. You can't go to the store for a loaf of bread without having to deal with crap some politician decided you should have to deal with. I miss the days when you could load up your junk, drive to the track and not worry about being accosted by DOT cops. Not worry about the EPA outlawing your late model race car. Not have to worry that the next great idea will make it impossible to do something you've enjoyed for years without committing a felony. Not have to worry about every tiny little piece of BS that the government has come up with in order to solve a problem that they made up. The days when you could just focus on work and the car and going racing and you took for granted politics would just work itself out without tearing the country to pieces. Businesses are falling by the wayside, activities are being cancelled, no one knows what the future will be and we are about at the "eff it 'till next year" point. It's become a huge dumpster fire. There is a huge culture war that has been going on and is about to get hot and unless your name is Trump, Obama, Soros, Bloomberg, Pelosi, Schumer, or a few others, you're just a peon stuck in the middle and suffering the consequences. The Constitution is toilet paper, the free press is propaganda, history is being eliminated, America is the devil and the Governor of New Jersey doesn't give a damn about the Bill of Rights, but at least he admits it, which is more than most will do. I blame both sides. One for becoming radicalized and pushing it, the other for allowing it. The faux Conservatives owned it all for 2 years, Trump was ready to sign whatever they passed to fix all of the bad stuff, and they screwed around, made excuses and in the end, did very little. I'm not really interested in rioting, burning, looting, throwing bricks at cops, so that leaves me wondering which activities, I might actually prefer to participate in, will survive and be allowed for the rest of this year and into the future. I'm ready for this year to be a bad memory, go to PRI without hearing the words "mask" or "social distancing" and work in the shop without having to wonder if there will actually be a racetrack to go to. Without wondering if a bunch of a-holes and their pals at city hall will get their wish and start another civil war. And maybe going to the track again next year without caring whether the other people there are Democrats or Republicans. |
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Still have not heard from any dems on here why Bandimere is closed while other venues are open. Your democratic leaders have the answers. Maybe you can let us all know in on why.
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"A total of 623,471 abortions for 2016 were reported to CDC from 48 reporting areas". Here's the source. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/ss/ss6811a1.htm The site has data all the way back to 1979. Since you think that over a half a million abortions a year don't matter, maybe you can take a look at crime statistics from the Burea of Justice Statistics to see how ever democrat run city is rife with crime, particularly homicides. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/oklelc18.pdf I can't wait to get to the part about your "centrist moderate" hero, Joe Biden. There's 40 years of data on him. Notice how I don't need to use CNN or other incredibly biases sources and that's being kind.. |
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“The infamous story of Joe Biden’s effort to force the firing of Ukraine’s chief prosecutor in 2016 has taken a new legal twist in Kiev In Kiev late last month, District Court Judge S. V. Vovk ordered the country’s law enforcement services to formally list the fired prosecutor, Victor Shokin, as the victim of an alleged crime by the former U.S. vice president, according to an official English translation of the ruling obtained by Just the News. You will not see this in the regular main stream media now will you? Casey Miles |
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First of all, there is no "right" other than the one made up by the pro-choice crowd. And hiding behind phrases like "women's health" is disgusting. If there is a real "need" to end a pregnancy - legitimate health of the mother, rape, etc. - or any other reason, it should be required to be done before a determined point early in the pregnancy. Before the fetus has a heartbeat, which is part of the law in several states, is a good start. Or within a few months of conception. You want choice? Fine. Make it early or not at all. Nothing to do with Bandimere but there it is and I'm done with it now. |
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My sweetie's cousin died from a stroke that was brought on by stage 5 kidney disease. Cause of death? Covid-19. If you would like, I'll send you a copy of the death certificate. He may well have HAD Covid-19 when he passed but it didn't KILL him. |
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This is a drag racing site, for racers and fans , so I'm not going away ..You, on the other hand,..might be a different story |
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None of this has anything to do with mail-in voting and stealing the election in November. What difference does it make that millions are out of work, companies are going under, and people are working from home while trying to educate their children? Forget about the Constitution and how civil liberties being trampled on. Do you want to riot and loot? Go for it. Do you want to go to church? Go to jail. |
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No point it quoting you Sarvas as you have posted the typical liberal talking points. Nothing new or enlightening, just numbers that can not be confirmed. Even if it were accurate.... 330 million people live in the US, a 140 thousand deaths is less than .04%. Hardly a pandemic that has ruined peoples lives and businesses
Yes, you should be worried... i said covid and cnn in the same context, if you think cnn is a viable news source we have nothing more to say. |
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Here you go Billy.... that first number is pretty bad. Why hasn't our trusted government officials mandate masks to protect us. This is 2019-2020 flu season right from the trusted cdc 39,000,000 – 56,000,000 flu illnesses 18,000,000 – 26,000,000 flu medical visits 410,000 – 740,000 flu hospitalizations 24,000 – 62,000 deaths |
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I believe the Chinavirus was created by the Chinese and may have been turned loose as a response to Trump's efforts to stop them from beating the US like a red-headed step child, like past presidents and Congress have allowed them to do for decades. Less likely is that they let it get loose by accident. I have no doubt that the Chinese would have no problem with a doomsday type attack to eliminate Trump and get their bought and paid for people back in control. |
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Covid19 - 140,000 deaths What's the point? pS |
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Wow... are you that stupid. 39 million have gotten the flu staring 2019...pretty much the same number as the last flu season... why were we not wearing masks to protect everyone in th past. Does 40 to 60 thousand deaths mean anything to you, man you are heartless
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► (62000 / 33000000) * 100 = 0.01879% ► (140000 / 330000000) * 100 = 0.04242% ► (0.04242 / 0.01879) * 100 = 225.758% Higher in half the time. Stan |
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Really! So it more important how many get it than how many die from it? Stan |
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Why don't you go here and do some reading https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...veillance.html. Start with probalbe covid deaths. The unconfirmed type. Never mind, here you go. "A probable case or death is defined as: A person meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19; A person meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence; A person meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19." Then go here https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ing-in-us.html Pay attention now. "These data are compiled from a number of sources. Not all tests are reported to CDC. The number of positive tests in a state is not equal to the number of cases, as one person may be tested more than once." Then try this and pay attention to the fourth paragraph. "CDC tracks COVID-19 illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths to monitor trends, detect where outbreaks are occurring, and determine whether public health measures are working. However, counting exact numbers of COVID-19 cases is not possible because COVID-19 can cause mild illness, symptoms might not appear immediately, there are delays in reporting and testing, not everyone who is infected gets tested or seeks medical care, and there are differences in how completely states and territories report their cases. COVID-19 is one of about 120 diseases or conditions health departments voluntarily report to CDC. State, local, and territorial public health departments verify and report cases to CDC. When there are differences between numbers of cases reported by CDC versus by health departments, data reported by health departments should be considered the most up to date. Health departments may update case data over time when they receive more complete and accurate information. The number of new cases reported each day fluctuates. There is generally less reporting on the weekends and holidays. CDC reports death data on three sections of the website: U.S. Cases & Deaths, COVID Data Tracker, and NCHS Provisional Death Counts. U.S. Cases and COVID Data Tracker get their information from the same source (total case counts); however, NCHS Death Counts are based on death certificates that use information reported by physicians, medical examiners, or coroners in the cause-of-death section of each certificate. Data from each of these pages are considered provisional (not complete and pending verification) and are therefore subject to change. Counts from previous weeks are continually revised as more records are received and processed. Because not all jurisdictions report counts daily, counts may increase at different intervals. |
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Some science: The masks being used can't stop a microscopic virus.
An opinion: An open air event such as a drag race is much more safe than any type of closed quarters facility i.e. a hospital, clinic, or supermarket. |
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Sarvas, you bring no substance or intelligent conversation. Your just looking to instigate. Your days are number, I will let the others handle you, I have grown tired of you. You are so typical of a liberal mind. Emotion without logic.
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Stan, statics that fit your narrative. I knew that was coming. So tell me why the government does not protect us from heart disease. Why don't they just force us all to eat healthy food. It would save hundreds of thousands of lives a year. Heck lets just lower the speed limit to 10 miles an hour, that would save even more. Stan, not sure you realize this, but life is fragile, and we all die someday. get off your high horse and let people get on with there lives, even if its dangerous. |
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When will all this end ?
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(140000 / 330000000) * 100 = 0.04242%
The only problem with your math, is that all haven't died from Covid19, there was a gun shot killing on Long Island, he died of Covid, there was a young man killed on a motorcycle here in Fl, he also died of Covid. The numbers are bogus, knowing the way hospitals work with greed, they put in the death certificate that it was a Covid death because they receive extra monies from the government, I think it's about $14K per death. Casey Miles |
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