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Mike Gray 10-14-2021 02:01 PM

Re: Did this just happen no generators?
 
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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 649989)
You are correct!
Still remember when I lived in Seattle, there was company converting the waste cooking oil from local restaurants into bio-diesel fuel and there were many local pumps selling the bio-fuel at a lower price than the gas stations with the regular diesel fuel.

The only issue I saw was that everytime I would be stopped a traffic light next to a car that used the cooking oil based bio-diesel, I would get hungry for French Fries or Calamari!

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...ase-into-fuel/

I like this - Collect all the waste oil from In-N-Out and convert it to bio-diesel then run it in my diesel generator in the pits and I will have a bunch of hungry guys looking for the food!.

Billy Nees 10-14-2021 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Gray (Post 649991)
I like this - Collect all the waste oil from In-N-Out and convert it to bio-diesel then run it in my diesel generator in the pits and I will have a bunch of hungry guys looking for the food!.

In the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Pa. area there are "gangs" stealing cooking oil from local restaurants!

Frank Castros 10-14-2021 03:14 PM

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Can we use human waste for energy?

Northumbrian Water is one company that is now a recognized expert in the use of what it calls "poo power" - using human waste to generate gas and electricity. The water firm was the first in the UK to use all its sludge - the goo generated after raw sewage has been treated - to produce renewable power.

Rory McNeil 10-14-2021 03:36 PM

Re: Did this just happen no generators?
 
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Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 649995)
Can we use human waste for energy?

Northumbrian Water is one company that is now a recognized expert in the use of what it calls "poo power" - using human waste to generate gas and electricity. The water firm was the first in the UK to use all its sludge - the goo generated after raw sewage has been treated - to produce renewable power.

I doubt THAT would smell like French Fries!

Tom P 10-14-2021 04:39 PM

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So the septic tanks on motorhomes could be generators ! That's probably better than waiting for battery powered generator technology to catch up.

Frank Castros 10-14-2021 05:47 PM

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No it will not smell like french fries or calamari, but we'll never run out of this renewable energy source!
That also applies to some the bull**** posted on this thread including my own!

Greg Reimer 7376 10-14-2021 07:46 PM

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Just saw a post on another site that should be our new motto, strategy and destiny. It shows a very serious bald eagle staring hard with the phrase under him that says, "We are no longer accepting things we cannot change. It is now time to change the things we cannot accept". Wow. It's about time.

tpoh815 10-15-2021 05:31 AM

Re: Did this just happen no generators?
 
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Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 649995)
Can we use human waste for energy?

Northumbrian Water is one company that is now a recognized expert in the use of what it calls "poo power" - using human waste to generate gas and electricity. The water firm was the first in the UK to use all its sludge - the goo generated after raw sewage has been treated - to produce renewable power.

If this is true then California alone and all their BS will have enough to power the whole country.

Carguy49 10-15-2021 11:30 AM

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PPP - - Political Poop Power. The never ending power resource.

Chevy55 10-16-2021 10:57 AM

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California law to eventually ban gas-powered lawn equipment there's nothing listed about generators.

cs racing 10-16-2021 01:06 PM

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If they really want to save on emissions and fuel consumption, close all Drive up windows and make people walk inside the restaurant to get food. Including “Starbucks “ thousands of cars set and idle all day at these drive up restaurants. I guess that would make to much sense. The ban is on All small engines, golf carts, pumps for irrigation, scooters, small equipment that contractors use, you name it we will all be effected by it.

cs racing 10-16-2021 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy55 (Post 650095)
California law to eventually ban gas-powered lawn equipment there's nothing listed about generators.

The New law does include Generators (All off-road gas powered engines “Including Generators” it pretty well cover any thing that has a small engine!

FireSale 10-16-2021 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy55 (Post 650095)
California law to eventually ban gas-powered lawn equipment there's nothing listed about generators.


AB 1346 applies to all Small Off Road Engines (SORE) which are defined as less than 25HP. Includes generators and chainsaws. Exceptions are allowed for applications that are not technically feasible. Yes, you can spend $5,000 on a Yeti Goal Zero, but all you really get is a lithium battery with 2000w from 2 120v outlets. My little dual fuel Champion has 2400 in output and cost me $700. Don't even ask about the chainsaw. I have a Stihl gas saw and my wife has a corded off brand. I will never use the Great White Shark of power tools with an extension cord. Bad idea. We were without power for two weeks after the Clinton Inaugural Day Windstorm. Power from a big *** generator and heat from firewood I cut with a gas saw. 'nuf said. Washington State has mild Winters but when the wind comes down from Alaska, I check my gas supply.
Politicians should be given the Quest of Tom Brown Jr. that is based on Southwest Native American Tracker traditions. Spend 4 seasons in the woods starting out with nothing but a knife. That's nothing as in nothing.


EDIT: I believe that more gas is burned going to church on Sunday than all of NASCAR. No more comments from me...

Chevy55 10-16-2021 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cs racing (Post 650109)
The New law does include Generators (All off-road gas powered engines “Including Generators” it pretty well cover any thing that has a small engine!

Best I can verify is that it's an assumption that generators will be included in the small engine ban.

It makes absolutely no sense banning generators from safety standpoint like when public power goes out or you need power in a remote location. No sense at all!

Tom Meyer 10-16-2021 07:49 PM

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The law make no sense, what about fire fighters , emergency workers, it is will tie the hands of the people that are there to help. Tom

GTS340 10-16-2021 11:48 PM

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Shipping giant Maersk announced plans for a green methanol-powered vessel by 2023. But there isn't enough of the fuel to go around.

SSGN 10-17-2021 10:59 AM

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They just put a stop to gliders in big rigs and owner operators. Looks like nobody wants to haul freight out of Cali. I drive truck and we avoid it like the plague. Careful what they wish for. No trucking company will invest in a new modern fleet at the rates today. Soooooo Cali might just screw themselves. I think if you want your freedom you need to move from Cali.

Rory McNeil 10-17-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevy55 (Post 650141)
Best I can verify is that it's an assumption that generators will be included in the small engine ban.

It makes absolutely no sense banning generators from safety standpoint like when public power goes out or you need power in a remote location. No sense at all!

Considering California`s history of rolling blackouts in the past, I can imagine that having everybody plugging in all the electric cars they want people to be driving, plus all the smaller batteries for all the electric crap they expect to replace small gas engines with, California will be looking to Gilligan and The Professors pedal powered, coconut battery power generator to pick up the slack!

Barry Polley 10-17-2021 05:36 PM

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Newsome cannot ban gas generators. He can phase out future sales.. What happens in remote areas or local with medical issues that rely on them ? The grid will fail again or is shut down due to wind. It becomes a s a f e t y issue and I see lawsuits stacking up.

FireSale 10-17-2021 09:03 PM

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Here's the quote from the legislation.
"SEC. 2.Section 43018.11 is added to the Health and Safety Code, to read:
43018.11.(a) (1) By July 1, 2022, the state board shall, consistent with federal law, adopt cost-effective and technologically feasible regulations to prohibit engine exhaust and evaporative emissions from new small off-road engines, as defined by the state board. Those regulations shall apply to engines produced on or after January 1, 2024, or as soon as the state board determines is feasible, whichever is later."
Nothing solid until 2024 and that's new production model engines only. The "Consistent with federal law...cost effective and technologically feasible" parts may be difficult for these folks to manage in 8 months time.


EDIT: California needs to address it's ability to safely produce and distribute power to the public before passing dumb legislation telling people to use more rechargeable alternatives to gas engines for outdoor work. They have a power grid that is so compromised it is responsible for several of the larger wildfires over the past few years. PG&E has cut service during fire season to prevent fires. But then it's cheaper for Politicians to squeeze owners and manufacturers than invest in the future of the State of California.
When I finished college in the '70s in Ohio I wanted to teach in California, but you had to live in the state for several years to work in the school system so I wound up here in Washington State. Lucky me.

Tom P 10-17-2021 09:44 PM

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I guess to politicians zooming around in jets California isn't very big? But if they ever drive avoiding I5 like me, then they'd know there are vast swaths of CA without much population and probably limited electrical power. What is feasible in LA or SF would not be so easy in Hornbrook and Happy Camp..

Chevy55 10-19-2021 01:12 PM

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This is the future, like it or not it's going to be a different world for our children
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