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Ken Miele 03-08-2023 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bubski (Post 677060)
Why are WE reluctant to name , names ?? Just go out on a Limb if your sure !! If someone is doing something in the worst interest of Class Racing let it be known !! Back door deals and enhancements and welfare are making Class Racing a joke nowadays !! Cheers !!

You're a funny dude... the guy who stirs the pot every chance he gets while using a fictitious name wants me to name names. You can't make this stuff up.

CMcAllister 03-08-2023 10:11 PM

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At least the NHRA people now have confirmation that the protestor is a s*** stirrer who doesn't know what he's looking at.

Sometimes opening your mouth backfires on you.

Frank Castros 03-08-2023 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 677061)
You're a funny dude... the guy who stirs the pot every chance he gets while using a fictitious name wants me to name names. You can't make this stuff up.

Irony in true definition and use.

63corvette 03-08-2023 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Gray (Post 677054)
Did Gary get the protest fee? (looks like it's $750.00 ?)

Protests must be accompanied by a protest fee as outlined
below. Protest fee, minus Technical Department expenses,
will be forfeited to the vehicle owner if the protested vehicle
is found in compliance with the requirements of its class of
competition.
(NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series, NHRA Pro Mod Drag
Racing Series, NHRA Top Fuel Harley Drag Racing Series and
the NHRA Factory Stock Showdown series) protest fee: $750

How was a phone in protest accepted?

Contestant protests may only be filed by a driver or registered
vehicle owner competing in the same event and in the same
eliminator category, as the vehicle being protested

This is all at the Division Directors discretion.
I can speak to this directly as I have been a victim of it myself.
I did not collect the protest fee because the protestor did not put up any fee.
I was subjected to the inspection by 4 or 5 of NHRAs Tech personnel over about an hour and one half inspection of my car on jack stands in my pit.
Only the wife and I were allowed to witness the inspection.
Everyone else was evicted from our pit and could not witness the inspection.
My car passed with flying colors and the chief inspector asked me why I was being inspected. My comment was you need to tell me who protested me and and why.
I was told they, NHRA could not tell me.
When the inspection was over I had a heated conversation with the Division Director.
I was sure who protested me and we also had a heated conversation.
After that nothing was ever said about the protest.
What it comes down to is certain SPECIAL people get things done just to harass another racer and pay no costs for their actions monetary or otherwise.
My Experience.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

Mike Gray 03-09-2023 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 63corvette (Post 677065)
This is all at the Division Directors discretion.
I can speak to this directly as I have been a victim of it myself.
I did not collect the protest fee because the protestor did not put up any fee.
I was subjected to the inspection by 4 or 5 of NHRAs Tech personnel over about an hour and one half inspection of my car on jack stands in my pit.
Only the wife and I were allowed to witness the inspection.
Everyone else was evicted from our pit and could not witness the inspection.
My car passed with flying colors and the chief inspector asked me why I was being inspected. My comment was you need to tell me who protested me and and why.
I was told they, NHRA could not tell me.
When the inspection was over I had a heated conversation with the Division Director.
I was sure who protested me and we also had a heated conversation.
After that nothing was ever said about the protest.
What it comes down to is certain SPECIAL people get things done just to harass another racer and pay no costs for their actions monetary or otherwise.
My Experience.
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

Sounds like someone convinced a NHRA official to protest you. According to the rule book if another competitor filed the protest it must be accompanied by the fee. An official can protest a competitors car with no fee involved. The officials should not be instigating protest because of hear-say by someone with a little more pull than others.
(Sounds a bit like blinder protest.)

Ken Miele 03-09-2023 08:36 AM

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Good morning all, and oh its brisk. I'll post the weather numbers as of 7:33 below. Super Street is out first, with a 8am start, followed but Stock. We get 3 qualifiers with first round tomorrow starting with Super Street. I will be at the starting line doing my photos todays and post them later today.

Temp 52
Bar 29.98
Humid 85%
DA 50ft
Water Grains 48
VP.3329
Wind calm

Casey Miles 03-09-2023 12:09 PM

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I don't get NHRA's policy. As a racer going to numerous points races, I couldn't get into the Gator nats. But NHRA invites a Street legal class to attend. I would understand if the Street legal class was invited to the babies, but why to the national and refuse more Stockers in the race? Just a little steamy!

Casey Miles
Stock

james schaechter 03-09-2023 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 677039)
2010 FI 352.

Hey guys, as you know its been a mostly uneventful race. With only the track prep on Saturday after the rains being an issue. Well, that's about to change. Gary Ewing's 69 SS/GA Camaro was protested. Not from another racer at the track, but with a phone call to NHRA. Before I get into the details, is this going to be the new norm. We think our opponent is not legal, so we just have to make a phone call.

I'm reluctant to name names... but a racer called NHRA and told them Ewing's car was not legal. They said the firewall was modified. Now you know many of us like to make our engine compartment look clean. Smoothing imperfections is pretty common. Well NHRA did go over to Ewing's car, and the firewall was totally legal. In fact Gary ask the tech to sign the firewall.

Its a sad state of affairs that we now eat our own. Gary has been racing for as long as I remember, he is a stand up guy. His 69 Camaro is one of the nicest in the country. He has been racing the 69 forever, and now someone has an issue with it. The pettiness that goes on in Stock and Super Stock is beyond me. We are so blessed in life that we get to race cars, just think of the 100,000's of fans that would loved to be in our shoes.

You think grown man would be mature enough not to make these types accusations over the phone. I probably would still have had an issue if the racer did the protest in person, but I would respect that... at least he was man enough to do so.

Anyone else that has more info on what happened, please chime is.

Pretty sure it was Bubski

Ken Miele 03-09-2023 06:00 PM

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Stock is done with their third qualifier, and the final Q sheet and ladder are up on DRC. Super Stock is running now with their third qualifier. Stock Q2, next 2 posts...

Ken Miele 03-09-2023 06:02 PM

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Next batch, I will be back later with Super Stock Q2 photos...

Ken Miele 03-09-2023 07:35 PM

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Super Stock Q2...

Ken Miele 03-09-2023 07:38 PM

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Next batch... be back tomorrow.

JHeath 03-09-2023 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by otnipecar (Post 677038)
What engine is Nicholas Morris running in his FTG/H Mustang? Thank you.

2010 Cobra Jet 352 pushrod engine

otnipecar 03-09-2023 11:17 PM

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Thank you Jerry and Ken. Really like that car.

I did find an old thread from 2013, Ford 352? that was talking about Walter Sullivan and Nick running this combo.

Congrats to Nick for winning SS.

richie 2 03-10-2023 08:30 AM

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FIRST ROUND THISMORNING !!!!! good luck everyone !

Ken Miele 03-10-2023 08:31 AM

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Good morning all, eliminations start today with Super Street. Yesterday they announced an 8:30 start but the schedule says 8. Its cloudy this morning with rain possible by the afternoon. The Weather numbers are as followed. A few more photos from yesterdays action. I hope to get some Showdown cars if the weather holds out...

Temp 62
Humid 87%
Bar 29.87
DA 912ft
Water Grains 69
vp .4719
Wind calm from the south

Ken Miele 03-10-2023 05:29 PM

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Hey guys, i am sure most of you are keeping up to date at DRC. Stk, SS, and the .90 cars all got one round in, tomorrow they get 3 more. The Showdown cars just finished up with Q2, and it was a whole lot better session the Q1. Q1 had lots of issues with the starting line, but Q2 for many was much better with a string mid 7.70's at 170mph plus. These shots are from Q1.

First 3 photos are of Del Holbrook in their 2016 Cobra Jet Holbrook Racing Engines car. Its great to see Chris Holbrook back racing with NHRA. He has been a great supporter of Class Racer. Seeing the next generation is very cool, it gives me hope about the future. Chris told me he hopes to have the FX car ready for Charlotte, but it should be ready for Norwalk for sure... can't wait to see these cars.

Ken Miele 03-10-2023 05:30 PM

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A few more...

doglover44 03-10-2023 05:34 PM

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Is Geoff Turk there with his car ?

GUMP 03-10-2023 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by doglover44 (Post 677148)
Is Geoff Turk there with his car ?

His car is headed to a body shop...

Frank B. 03-10-2023 08:04 PM

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Geoff`s car is not at Gators. But I believe that the transmission and rearend from his car is in Lindsay Wheelock car.

SSDA Hemi 03-10-2023 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by doglover44 (Post 677148)
Is Geoff Turk there with his car ?

Geoff was entered in his new" Blackbird X" , A/FX in comp and I don't know if he's in gainesville but I can tell you he never made a pass in comp qualifying. Would guess new car bugs and hopefully he'll be out soon.

Ken Miele 03-11-2023 08:58 AM

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Good morning everyone, Super Street has been called to the lanes, Stock to follow. Stock and Super Stock will get 3 more rounds today as will the .90 classes. Weather is just a little cooler the yesterday mornings 1st round. We had heavy rains yesterday evening, but the next 2 days we will have picture perfect weather with temps in the upper 70's.

Dave Turner 03-11-2023 11:00 AM

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A morning of dial-in challenges!! :eek:

Carguy49 03-11-2023 12:35 PM

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How about Bobby Fazio. Going to round 4 in a borrowed car. Is that cool or what?

Ken Miele 03-11-2023 03:56 PM

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Hey guys, we are moving right along. 4th round for Stk, SS, and the .90's cars will be after the last qualifier of the pros. Showdown cars are in the lanes now for round 1.

Photos from Q3 Showdown.

Ken Miele 03-11-2023 04:00 PM

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Next batch...

Ken Miele 03-11-2023 04:02 PM

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A few more, and look at the last two photos... this place is jammed with fans. It took over an hour to go 4 miles to get into the Gatornationals.

Ken Miele 03-11-2023 09:15 PM

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Hey guys, Stock 4th round action. The photos are a little grainy... my camera lens is not the best for night shots.

Ken Miele 03-11-2023 09:16 PM

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4th round Super Stock...

Chris1529 03-11-2023 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Carguy49 (Post 677177)
How about Bobby Fazio. Going to round 4 in a borrowed car. Is that cool or what?

What car or whose car was he driving?

jmcarter 03-12-2023 06:15 AM

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Brian O’Toole owns the 1989 Mustang convertible that Bobby was driving. Brian is one of our D2 regulars who couldn’t get into the Gators field (the one that filled in less than 5 minutes) and graciously loaned Bobby his car. Disappointed to see them go out but today’s semis feature a huge spot (Strickland v. Turner) and a heads up between Grubb and Gray. Must see TV right there.

Also, after many years of not subscribing I rolled the dice and find the NHRA.TV app is hugely improved.

Dragrac419 03-12-2023 07:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 677215)
Brian O’Toole owns the 1989 Mustang convertible that Bobby was driving. Brian is one of our D2 regulars who couldn’t get into the Gators field (the one that filled in less than 5 minutes) and graciously loaned Bobby his car. Disappointed to see them go out but today’s semis feature a huge spot (Strickland v. Turner) and a heads up between Grubb and Gray. Must see TV right there.

Also, after many years of not subscribing I rolled the dice and find the NHRA.TV app is hugely improved.

Thanks Jim for giving the info.
I want to apologize to Bobby as I pick the wrong dial that round and he just could not run the number.
Thanks Bobby for the amazing job of driving at the Gators.

Ken Miele 03-12-2023 09:42 AM

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Good morning all, another beautiful day for racing... high temps in the upper 70's. 10am start time with the pros getting 2 rounds before the sportsman start their final 2 rounds. I will be here for the finals as I am heading to D2 race in Valdosta, GA. Showdown action from yesterday... it was a tough first round as more than half the field had traction issues. 2nd round was a little better.

Ken Miele 03-12-2023 09:44 AM

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A few more....

Carguy49 03-12-2023 10:48 AM

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Thanks to Jim Carter and Brian O'Toole for filling in the info on who's car Bobby was driving at the Gators.


Ken nice job of reporting on the Baby Gators and the Gators. Lots of good photos and commentary. Have a safe trip over to Valdosta, Ga.

Ken Miele 03-12-2023 12:27 PM

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Round 3 Factory Stock Showdown....

Davies in the Drag Pack over Hamp in the Copo

Stanfield in the Copo over Berge in the Drag Pack

Welch in the Drag Pack over Alexandra in the Copo


I believe the 7.62 is the quickest it in FSS. Not sure about the MPH.

Ken Miele 03-12-2023 02:00 PM

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TV time has pushed back the finals for Sportsman until after the pro finals. Super Street semi's coming up soon... as with the rest of the Sportsman semi's.

Steve Calabro 03-12-2023 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 677231)
Round 3 Factory Stock Showdown....

Davies in the Drag Pack over Hamp in the Copo

Stanfield in the Copo over Berge in the Drag Pack

Welch in the Drag Pack over Alexandra in the Copo


I believe the 7.62 is the quickest it in FSS. Not sure about the MPH.

3 Aaron Stanfield 3285 Joseph Welch
E5 0.038 8.309 134.70 ****WINNER**** 0.018 7.638 185.18

Ken Miele 03-12-2023 03:40 PM

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Thanks Steve....

Stock..
Strickland over Grubbs

Super Stock
D'Agnola over Helms

Be back later with photos


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