Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Thanks for that list.


So all of us think that your advice and opinions are at best misleading and at worst flat out wrong.


Does anyone think you posted up good advice and opinions?:rolleyes:


Just so you know everyone's days are running out on this rock even yours. :eek:



Stan

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

AGAIN, says the clown that derailed this thread starting at post #9, a nobody, a computer programmer, a clueless old man who never raced

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Ken wants this,as simple as that!

I will probably be banned but 1320 will stay.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Poor fellow had his thread totally hijacked.

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Fwiw, I'd opt to the drag & drive.
Wish I saved everything I ripped out of my car 35 years ago to go fast.18 years old and just wanted to go fast.
Would be nice to just go for a drive instead of loading on a trailer.
It depends if you like the competition of racing or just cruising around and making some passes.
Have fun either way!

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Thanks everyone for the replies. If I've stirred up a hornet's nest, I apologize for that. That was not my intention.

I got introduced into racing many years back helping the Ryan's with their racing program. Car maintenance and the thrashing to make it faster for class was always my calling. I have very fond memories of helping those friends. To my own determent, when I started racing a few years later, I never let go of that desire. I was always focused on going faster, even between rounds, than I was on the driving. Back then, trying to run with Div 5 people like Peter B and Glen D who ran in my classes was always my priority. When I moved out west it was the Irvings, Don Forester, and Jody Lang that I was chasing. That said, I do not ever see me racing in a class where I can't go full out, with my right foot the only means of controlling the cars performance. The thought of a throttle stop is just not appealing to me, at all.

I do not race for the possibility of winning money. I have no expectation to win or even go rounds. It has always been and probably always will be about the car performance for me. My stuff was never 1.20 under capable. At least not in the air I typically race in. But I could go 1 under in the air I race in. With exception of the paint and the engine machining, my car is all built by me. I have two complete engines with sleeved blocks, name brand internals, total seal rings with spacers, schubecks, and so on. Both engines have heads and intakes done by people who do these items for a living. I have two complete metrics, aluminum drums, low gear sets, and so on. Obviously, I need to reacquaint myself with a rule book. But it doesn't look like I would need to completely revamp my program.

Thanks again for the replies.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

With that number of spares... I'd update the safety stuff, change fluids, and go racing. Get the car out and about, then improve upon it from there if you so desire.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Makes no sense to me that anyone would invest all this time, effort and $ without an expectation to win no mind win a round, but it doesn’t have to. Do what makes you happy.

Just one note, you do realize that the class you chose to build a car for is NOT a heads up class. Further, the guys that are winning races and championships in Stock Eliminator aren’t going “full out” in competition and are turning on the win light either with their foot off the gas pedal or on the brake pedal or a combination of both most every pass. Oh and they’re doing it as well in qualifying, playing the ladder game. My point is Stock Eliminator is no longer a run full out, pedal to the floor class and it wasn’t in 2015 either. It’s bracket race until you’re paired up with another car in your class(refer back to the ladder game) then it’s first to the finish line and that guy is usually the one that spent more $, a lot more money than you.

Good luck with your decision.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

I'm not getting into a word fight with you. I think you missed a bulk of my post. The Class Win trophies on my shelf would disagree with your heads up comment.

I live in Pierre, SD. It's a small town, center of the state, state capitol. On the banks of the Missouri River. Arguably the Walley fishing center of the universe. On most days, even now in the winter, there are a dozen boats & trailers at each boat ramp. These are $50K and up boats, with $30K and up engines on them, and another $20K worth of electronics. Now throw in reals, tackle, and all the other stuff. Many have spent more than $100,000 to be on the water. All to catch a Walley.

My point, I don't know of any hobby that doesn't cost money. But that's really the wonderful part of racing, isn't it? There's bunch of classes out there. Something for everyone, wouldn't you agree? It's unclear to me why you need to disparage why I race and the class I race in when you don't even race in the class that I compete in nor have I disparaged you or your choices.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Don’t ask for opinions and advice on a public forum if you only want the ones that agree with what you have already decided to do.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

All this HOOPLA, because of a fragile ego. :)

1700/781L :D

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

If you ask for opinions and advice on a public forum you need to understand that means you have to put up with someone like 1320race. Just ignore him like almost everyone else here does.


Stan

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

says the clown that derailed this thread starting at post #9, a nobody, a computer]programmer, a clueless old man who never raced and that no one here with a clue gives him, nor his malarkey the time of day.

Pathetic old fool who's days are running out on this rock yet he spends them here, on a forum he has no first hand knowledge and experience of the topics being discussed.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Says the Forum Fool with the fragile ego. Whom continues to contribute to the train wreck. ;)

He's not breaking any forum rules by derailing this thread or any other for that matter. :p

1700/781L :D

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Yes, I am almost as pathetic as a self centered know-it-all that doesn't know shyt and is clueless about his lack of TRUE knowledge. Now you can regurgitate the same response as above. LMFAO



Stan

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

It is amazing how he almost tries to Bully people, and then just folds when called on it. :D


Stan

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

says the clown that derailed this thread starting at post #9, a nobody, a computer]programmer, a clueless old man who never raced and that no one here with a clue gives him, nor his malarkey the time of day.

Pathetic old fool who's days are running out on this rock yet he spends them here, on a forum he has no first hand knowledge and experience of the topics being discussed.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

:D:D:D
There you go. Just like I said you would.

:D:D:D
Stan

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Not sure when the rule changed but you can use aftermarket seats.
Definitely keep the originals though.
Like I said earlier, don't get rid of anything!

I wish I still had the bench seat for the Chevelle!
Drag & drive in my opinion.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Parts and pieces are getting hard to find and stupid money, even interior parts and trim.

Plus, purpose built seats are certainly safer.

Just like getting the stock fuel tank out from under the car and putting a cell in the trunk.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

One thing I didn’t see mentioned is that AHFS changed.
Basically only one review period and runs less than -.65 don’t count towards the avg.


https://www.nhraracer.com/content/ge...633&zoneid=132

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Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Vocation. Avocation. Hobby. Do what you want. Some guys just work on their stuff and go to TnTs to measure the results.

I don't think less or more of anyone for their desires.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

I too have just got into Stock and was curious as to the answer as well.....then he showed up and destroyed the thread. There's a dozen or so informative posts, on topic, the rest of the 11 pages or whatever it is, is just bickering between him and actual S/SS racers.
WTF?????

I can't even read his posts because he's on ignore, but every page has a bunch of "message hidden" and people quoting him. Just ignore and stop responding to him! I will forgo any knowledge I might gain from him, just so I don't have to hear the constant "S/SS is done, racing is over, I have more money than anyone, I am the most brilliant person wherever I go...."

First time logging in after the holidays and I feel like immediately logging back out. I think youtube has some metal lathe videos I'll go watch instead.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Thanks Ken for the ignore option.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Dean,
To reestablish your post and what you originally asked before the thread was completely derailed.



1) What major rules have changed over the last 10 years? Not enough to worry about since your car ran under the index.

2) What can or what should be updated to be competitive based on rule changes over the last 10 years? Update the safety equipment and hope to see you at a D5 race or Midwest Class Racers Race

3) Are things like digital ignitions & data acquisition a must even on an old school carbureted stocker? If you like more info and things to occupy your time in between making a pass it is helpful.

You have a track thats in your backyard at Thunder Valley in Marian SD. It being resurfaced last year it is great.

Sean

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Data is a game changer. If you learn how to use it.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

I agree, and it saves a lot of money second guessing what you thought may have happened. Each pass I track how long the clutch slid before lockup on the launch and very specific engine info for my combination.


Sean

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

as I stated in post #18

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Dean NHRA made SFI flex plates mandatory last year.

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Hydraulic cams can now be solid lifter, roller rocker arms as long as they maintain stock geometry and style mounting. Data acquisition is a good tool but many do not use it. Replacement heads are allowed in some combos. Auto 1-2 is allowed as long as it?s an act of the transmission not an external device or elctric. Larger cam diameter is tolerated.
Pretty much it

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

ill make this quick

1st there is an automatic horsepower factoring system also know as ahfs automatic help for slugs > penalty for being good at cheating the rules
2nd there is no longer any formal tech you enter online and solemnly swear its a 305 not a 350
3rd as you see there is plenty of wanna be has been keyboard jockeys on here
4th be prepared for some 160mph action in the traps nhra chose not to give the super cars thier own class
5th a second under is a pretty decent run (itll get you a review by ahfs)
6th we always go out at an obscene time like 7am and late like 8pm good luck dialing
7th they gave us unlimited valve springs and rockers sooooo cams / lifters cost more than SS stuff
8th if you wanna run national events pony up $250 x 8 divisionals

glad to have you back :)

captain

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

So how do you set this up to ignore somebody?

Re: What has changed in Stock Eliminator since 2015?
 

Cap't. Jack. you've only covered the good things about Stock. What about all the other stuff??

J.R.