Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 

The DP engines that got factored in Stock have not yet in SS.

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 

Mark..... Stock has never had equality and harmony. Happy Holidays, Sam.

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 

Lots of luck......NHRA is NEVER going to do it.

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 

Chad,

Thanks, us Mopar guy's don't pay much attention to them Chevy things!

JimR

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 

F/X will never happen. If it did, only the fastest guys would stick with it. The rest would quit because they couldn't have their way on the playground as they currently do (in heads-up situations).

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 

It won't be to long and the fastest stock national record will be faster then the SS/AH record. How cool is that? WOW. All that at a fraction of the cost.

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 

Yea, really cool, right....


NOT

Harry, not mocking your statement because I really saw it as being facetious.

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 

There you go again hating the new cars..

Once again, what race, what date, and in what round were you so wrongly embarrassed by one of the new cars, that you just can't get over and see the need to take unsubstantiated weak shots at them?

But apparently you are clairvoyant, since you can predict what "would" happen..... if.

Maybe you should just use your "talents" as a phone psychic....

Did you see that one coming? If not, then I guess you should leave the forecasting of other people's behavior alone.

David
The New Hemi Guy

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 

New Hemi: I was beaten by the under-factored LT1's and LS1's back in the early 90's in many heads-up runs long before you ever showed your face at an NHRA event. I've been very lucky and haven't had to run one of the new cars heads-up yet, but I'm sure it's coming. When it rains, it usually pours. Keep in mind also, that my car is no "slouch". But that was nothing compared to what's going on now. It's history repeating, but with far more bogus factors. How long have you been racing Stock Eliminator? Oh, that's right you just showed up about 3 years ago, but that's enough for you to qualify yourself as an expert on the subject.

Re: GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show
 

I am no expert but I was the victim of a few heads-up runs with cars that are way under-factored on horsepower. Cut a .012 light, the other guy is .090 and drives by and takes 20' of stripe at 15 mph slower speed.

Eventually I got tired of running a good car that would go .75 under and get crushed if the Ladder didn't go my way by a car that can easily go 1.2 under on the brakes.

I would buy a Stocker and go back to that class with one rule change:

**No heads-up runs during eliminations. Simple rule change, takes the bogus HP cars out of the "real race" and lets the drivers settle it.
*I also think part of that rule should say there will be Class Eliminations at every National Event on Friday morning. That way the guys who are about squeezing everything out of the car can still get their "Class Winner Trophies and hopefully some contingency $$".

I think you would see 15 to 20% more cars at LODRS and National events, maybe more. When you are positive you can't win a heads-up race...why spend $500 to $800 to go to an event and HOPE you won't have a heads-up race? It's obvious, a lot of guys leave nice cars at home because of the heads-up rule during eliminations.

Jok