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I don't think anyone has posted to many pics of Chuck Ostrich's B029 Hemi Barracuda...I've always liked the color scheme of this car.
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I love the old cars. In the old days I had a 65 SS Dodge (my favorite) and a 68 SS Dart. What people don't seem to know is you CAN go back. Today you can go buy a 2011 Drag Pak Challenger and take it straight to the track and run 9.60's off the showroom floor. In a wonderful package car. Roll cage, slicks, wonderful car. I prefer the 426 hemi engine myself but you don't have to work on this engine, you just enjoy your day at the track. And don't bother telling me about the money. It's a lot easier to come up with $96,000 today than $5,000 cash in 1968 when your *** was flat broke. You CAN go back. And you will enjoy it.
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Rick,
I agree,, Back in 1968, if your car had a nice paint job and mag wheels, you were considered 'upper-class'. And if you brought your car to the track on a trailer, instead of flat-towing,,,,,,,,,,WOW,, And those Bock Drag Star trailers were only about $1100 in 1968. It just seemed like you'd never have enough money to buy a trailer. pc |
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Is it me, or did I fing another missing LO23...
Rick Kent,,,,,,,,,,,SS/B 'Instant Action' American Falls, Idaho Article talking about 'Ramcharger engines'. No more blown engines for Rick Kent, as he switched to a 'Ramchargers' built engine. http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/...ent%201969.jpgIs |
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Anybody else here know wasn't this the 1968 B029 Hemi Barracuda that recently went through Barrett Jackson's Las Vegas auction a few months ago...does anyone here know the history on this car.
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Same car.
Mike Booker campaigned this car awhile a few years back. Not sure of it's original history tho. liteweight |
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Daryl,
Still stuck on the Michigan quest for LO23 cars. Hard to believe only '3' original ordered LO23 cars were Michigan-based. * Don R. Brewer Dodge, (Port Huron),,,,(Gil Clark; driver) * Robert Alton, Town & Country Dodge (Farmington) * Richard 'Dick' Smith, Town & Country Dodge (Farmington) We can throw out Van Dyke Dodge, as no has seen any documentation or car photo's. Anyone have any ideas,,,,,,,,,,,or thoughts.. 'Top' Michigan Dodge Dealers; * Arborland Dodge, Ann Arbor * Colonial Dodge, East Detroit * Crestwood Dodge, Garden City * Don R. Brewer, Port Huron * Flint Dodge, Flint * Hodges Dodge, Ferndale * Holiday Dodge, Traverse City * Motor City Dodge, Detroit * Northfield Dodge, Grand Rapids * Schultz Motors, Milan * Spartan Dodge, Pontiac * Taylor Dodge, Warren * Town & Country Dodge, Farmington * Tri-City Dodge, Ironwood * Van Dyke Dodge, Warren * Bill Vreeland Sales, Adrian * Westwood Dodge, Livonia |
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1969,
Linda Vaughn explaining the mechanics of a 440 6-Barrel, and the advantages of air-flow and fuel mixture of a 3-carburetor set-up, as opposed to one large carburetor. Buster Crouch, Ronnie Sox and Buddy Martin, are in-tune with this important lesson. Notice the '2' BO29 Super/Stock Hemi Barracuda's, watching from the background. http://image.hotrod.com/f/32750800+w...nda-vaughn.jpg |
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As far as I know, there was no "Old Trapper" 68 Hemi Barracuda - a 70 SS/DA Barracuda yes, a 68 Hemi Dart, 67 Hemi Belvedere - no 68 Barracuda though.
This is the Southland Flyer that the Teuton's raced for many years. They bought the car from Ed Miller - not his original car though. Mark J |
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Mark's right there was no Old Trapper BO29 car . They campaigned the 67 X, Didluck's LO23, 2 70 Hemi Cudas. all accounted for. The only BO29 raced out of western canada , in particular Alberta-home of Rhonagon's Old Trappers, was Renald Griess's BO29 late 1990s/early 2000s before he sold it. Allyn Lee and his brother did have one of the Old Trapper 70 Cudas, ran it for years after they acquired it from Rhonagon.
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I talked to owner ( He is in next town) prior to Barrett and asked if if the car used to be an Old Trapper car. I was driving to Walmart and saw to car being
loaded and stopped. He seemed to be under impression that it was a former Old Trapper car. He has a BO Dart in his shop among other cars that he allowed me to see. |
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GTX John, that BO29 may very well have been campaigned under an Old Trapper name but by a different owner. I'm trying to say that a BO29 Barracuda was never campaigned by Jim Rhonagin and his drivers/team mates Alberta Branan or Dick Panter, Alberta Canada who raced under the Old Trapper name back in the late 60s/early 70s . A few identical car names have been used by more than 1 owner over the years so it's possible..
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Paul
If I understand your 12/11 post you are looking for LO23 Darts sold in Mich. to Mich. residents. How about the John Rivers of Detroit. He bought one from Van Dyke Dodge on 7/25/68 for pickup at the Hurst facility. I have a copy of the RETAIL BUYERS ORDER. It was an automatic. |
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Stewart,
Thanks for the information. If John Rivers got his LO23 Hemi Dart from Van Dyke in late-July 1968, then he should have one of the last cars, VIN# LO23M8B391***. Still find it baffling on just how few LO23 Hemi Darts were Michigan-based. Hard to imagine; * Hodges Dodge * Spartan Dodge * Bill Vreeland Sales * Tri-City Dodge * Crestwood Dodge * Schultz Motors Missing out in not getting one. |
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If we are talking about the same car - the red, white and gold Barracuda that Mike Booker had - this is the Southland Flyer car that Joe Teuton Jr raced - it was bought from Ed Miller at the Gatornats (years ago - and no this was not Ed's Original car). The car is originally from NC (not S&M) and Roy Hill also raced it years ago.
I have seen the Johnny Rivers paperwork from VanDyke Dodge and I do not believe that is authentic. I have many copies of Dealer paperwork and they look nothing like this. There was a Johnny Rivers that bought a Dart new from White Bear Dodge though. Mark J |
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Paul,
There was an article in one of the east coast magazines (possibly Cars Illustrated) that had a road test on the then new 69 1/2 6 BBl Superbee that mentions they got a guy named Marshall Gold to do the test driving and that he spent his spare time rowing the shifter on an SS/B Hemi Dart. I contacted Al Kirchenbaum (who wrote the srticle) and he didn't remember this - possible lead on the Manhatten Speed Shop Dart?? Mark J |
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Here's a couple of shots of the Demented Dart.
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Demented dart LO23 and Mr 5 and 50 BO29 for sale at Barrett Jackson 2012. They indicate incorrectly that the dart was the only export car, guess they don't know about the Old Trapper sold new out of Calgary.
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Mark,
Still searching on the Marshall Gold connection. Al Kirchenbaum was Rockville Centre Dodge Performance Car manager around mid-1969. I believe he was the 'care-taker' of the 440/6 'press test car', also. If there is a connection, Marshall Gold could have been the driver of the Manhattan Speed Parts Dart, or driver of the Mutt Brothers Dart (ex S & K Dart), or did Rockville Center Dodge have a LO23,,,,,,,,???? pc |
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Jack Werst's Mr. 5 & 50 B029 68 Hemi Barracuda.
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should be ashamed of themselves,,,,,,,, claiming that the recent 68 Hemi car was the only exported 68' Race Hemi. Brings back memories of Craig Jackson stating that Ray Allen's 70' LS-6 SS454 Chevelle convertible was undefeated in SS/EA. No reason to lie,,,,,,or fabricate a story.. |
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What the Demented Dart L023 Hemi Dart looks like today.
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Check out the width of those rear hides, that car was tubbed enough to stuff 16" wide tires under there, pretty sure when I saw the car years ago there was rear frame relocation.
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Some great pics of 68 BO & LOs back in '68 can be found at bobsnyderdragphotos check out the Superstock nationals NYNS 1968 gallery esp the last couple pages. Landy, Arlen w. a very early paint job, Shahan, S & M, Hemi Hunter, incredible pics , great engine shots, etc.
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Brodlieb Motors
Woodmere (Long Island), New York Though a small dealership, it was a dynamo dealership for performance parts and cars, and held 'Super Car Clinics'. Some have said that they received a BO29 Hemi Super/Stock Barracuda. Supposedly, the car was taken out for a test run, and crashed into a telephone pole,,,,,,????? The 1965 Barracuda (pictured below), was a 273/180 HP (2-Barrel). Campaigned in 1965 (I/SA), 1966 (J/SA),1967 (I/SA) and 1968 (N/SA). It was a very successful stocker out on Long Island (Islip Speedway and Westhampton Dragstrip) http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclec...cuda-1964a.jpg |
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He ran a bunch of Dodges back in the day.
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Here's a few of Rudy Schings B029 68 Hemi Barracuda...anyone here have any info on this car's history, heard it was bought out of Pete Myl's Chrysler in Pennsylvania.
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Tom Myl was the original owner.
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