CLASS RACER FORUM

CLASS RACER FORUM (https://classracer.com/classforum/index.php)
-   Nostalgia Stock and Super Stock (https://classracer.com/classforum/forumdisplay.php?f=54)
-   -   Original hemi dart information (https://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=13002)

Hemi Moose 01-04-2012 09:00 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Couple of old and new shots of the B029 68 Hemi Barracuda called "Hairbender too".
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...dthebender.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...57/TVD3958.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...57/TVD3847.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...7/DSC_3809.jpg

Hemi Moose 01-04-2012 09:25 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 278258)
Don Grotheer,,,SS/B
(photo from 1968 NHRA World Finals, October 20, 1968)
Tulsa International Raceway,,,,, Tulsa, Oklahoma

Clearly one of the best looking BO29 Hemi Barracuda's

1968 NHRA Super Stock Eliminator Runner-Up @ Springnationals
June 1968, SS/B National Record Holder @ 10.91

After the 1968 racing season, Don Grotheer purchased the Barracuda from
Cable Chrylser-Plymouth (who owned the car).
It was re-painted with the blue and orange stripe, and Don campaigned it in
SS/BA. He won the 1969 NHRA Winternationals Super Stock Eliminator, and re-set the
SS/BA National Record to 10.72 (from 10.83).

http://www.prostockhemi.com/gallery/ss/34.jpg

Another shot of Don Grotheer's B029 68 Hemi Barracuda with the newer paint job.

http://www.speedcityresin.com/DonGrotheer68Cuda.jpg
http://www.chucksclassiccars.com/thu....jpg&width=500
http://174.123.48.5/images/DGDSS.JPG

Liteweight 01-05-2012 11:04 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
great pictures as always HM !!!!!!!!!

liteweight
PS Happy New Year to all

Hemi Moose 01-05-2012 11:45 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
This is Irv Beringhaus B029 68 Hemi Barracuda...with a similar paint job to Don Grotheer's 69 440 6-BBL Road Runner and 70 Hemi Cuda pro stocker.
http://www.turbosracingphotos.com/OL...CK/brnhas2.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...57/TVD3967.jpg

Hemi Moose 01-05-2012 12:00 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
This is Balzekas Motor Sales L023 68 Hemi Dart, they were another Chrysler Dodge dealership out of the Chicago area ...looks like but it's not Larry Griffith's L023 Hemi Dart.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...hicagoDart.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...cagoDart-4.jpg

hemidart3 01-05-2012 06:26 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
3 Attachment(s)
looking thru some old magazines today and thought i would share these, i don't remember seeing them before. dave

Liteweight 01-06-2012 12:06 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 302411)
This is Balzekas Motor Sales L023 68 Hemi Dart, they were another Chrysler Dodge dealership out of the Chicago area ...looks like but it's not Larry Griffith's L023 Hemi Dart.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...hicagoDart.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...cagoDart-4.jpg

Never saw this one before.Colors ?? Anyone have any info on it???
Good hunting

liteweight

Hemi Moose 01-06-2012 02:55 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Liteweight, I don't know anymore details on it, maybe Mark J or Paul C may know, I seen old photos of it a few years ago and thought the car was from that area...anyway how did your search go on the Manhattan Speed Shop 68 Hemi Dart go, did you find anything out.

FED 387 01-06-2012 03:53 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
got a buddie of mine kinda a Great Lakes drag strip history buff will ask him about the Balzekas car this weekend---

68hemiss 01-07-2012 10:54 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
I am familiar with this car but have had problems identifying the original owner - the photos are mine (I own the negatives - probably from an earlier search of mine from years ago). Great Lakes Dragaway is about 20 min. from my house and I have shown these to many of the old racers if that era and no one seems to remember the car. I contacted a Hemi Dart owner in the Chicago area about 10+ years ago that confirmed that the Dart is the car he had. It was green with lace. Supposedly the car was run for a year and then sold - racing mostly at US 30 Dragway in IN. I have an old for sale ad from late 68- early 69 when someone named Jim was selling a Hemi Dart in Chicago - possibly this same car. Possibly Jimmy Evans?? I belive that I know where the car is now but a few of the newer owners have been difficult getting info from - I think they tried throwing me off the trail. I am not sure that is the correct dealer name- I have it in my notes somewhere but it was a cross-town rival of Grand-Spaulding Dodge.
Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

mopar68 01-07-2012 01:23 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/5...clydecheek.jpg
(Woody Delbridge photo)

Geerhead55 01-07-2012 02:50 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mopar68 (Post 302788)

Car #14 and #19,,, 2 Hemi Darts? Wonder who the other car in the photo is?
Danny Durham

Liteweight 01-09-2012 12:26 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 302686)
Liteweight, I don't know anymore details on it, maybe Mark J or Paul C may know, I seen old photos of it a few years ago and thought the car was from that area...anyway how did your search go on the Manhattan Speed Shop 68 Hemi Dart go, did you find anything out.

HM
As near as I can get with the Manhattan Car is that it was a stick car, so pretty much takes this one out of contention also.

liteweight

Liteweight 01-09-2012 12:34 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geerhead55 (Post 302798)
Car #14 and #19,,, 2 Hemi Darts? Wonder who the other car in the photo is?
Danny Durham

Welcome back M68. Been missing your great pictures for awhile

Strange cars, with strange designation/ classes being numbers.
No side glass on them
front wheels are spindle mount, no brakes
Looks like a 69 car tho


liteweight

Liteweight 01-09-2012 01:00 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 302694)
got a buddie of mine kinda a Great Lakes drag strip history buff will ask him about the Balzekas car this weekend---

Any update FED387

liteweight

FED 387 01-09-2012 01:15 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
not yet he was outta town this weekend will get with him tonite==FED387

JCShiels 01-09-2012 06:49 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
I don't get to this site as much as I would like (I am not supposed to use my work computer, even on my own time or at lunch) but I saw Paul's post with the blow-up proof Ramchargers engine that Rick Kent put in his dart. Tim and Bob had a Ramchargers engine in their Wild Fire Dart when I first went to work at Town and Country Dodge in 1969. shortly before they sold the car (1970?) they broke an exhaust valve destroying the cylinder head and the piston in that hole. They re-installed the original Hemi, and that was the engine in the car when they sold it. They let me keep the intake valve from the cylinder that went bad; it had a hole punched through the valve head between the stem and the rim. I wish I had kept track of it, I think it was tossed out when my parents moved. They later repaired the Ramchargers engine and built an early Dart (1964?) gasser. But that is another story.
JIm Shiels

Paul Ceasrine 01-09-2012 09:12 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
On Wiley Cossey,,,,,,,

SS/B Class Winner @ 1968 Indy Nationals
SS/B Class Runner-Up @ 1969 Winternationals

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...3&d=1325802313

Hemi Moose 01-10-2012 12:25 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...94486359_n.jpg
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...955-chuck1.jpg

Maybe the current owner will jump in here and post some recent photos of this L023 68 Hemi Dart that was known as Spider.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Hemi Dart (Post 300709)
The first owner was Jim Miller out of St. Louis. It was called King Dart. The second owner was Ken Broadaway also from the St. Louis area. This info is on one of the old titles I have. It was rumored to have been ran as a early Pro Stock car. Feb.1972 Harry Prososki from Nebraska brought the car and is known as Spider.Harry owned the car for 20 years. There was a picture of the car in the 1980 Direct Connection Catalog wearing 69 tail lights. Harry sold the car to Toli Polewik in Iowa, who sold the car to Ray Barton. Barton was building the car for John McGill who owned the Checker Drive ins out of Alabama. Bucky painted the checker paint for the drive in. I was told that McGill never picked up the car and then was sold to Jim Whipple who was out of Michigan. Jim Pancake got the car next and I bought the car from Jim in December of 2005, who I have known for a long time. The car is the 13th one built and it came with a certicard. Today the car has a 11:5 motor in it with mufflers and has been seen on the streets.


hemidart3 01-10-2012 11:57 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
5 Attachment(s)
more old magizine pictures! dave

Hemi Moose 01-11-2012 04:50 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Here are some old shots of the "Mister Plymouth" B029..."Lenox Dodge" L023..."Hemi Power" B029.

http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00096.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00118.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00416.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00045.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00099.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00110.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00417.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00123.jpg
http://georgiadragracing.com/photoal...p/0_Tanner.jpg
http://georgiadragracing.com/photoal...p/0_TSmith.jpg

Hemi Moose 01-11-2012 08:55 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
A few more oldies of some L023 & B029's in Super Stock, Pro Stock, & A/MP.

http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00360.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00365.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00121.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00057.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00116.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00124.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00065.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00001.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00393.jpg
http://www.georgiadragracing.com/images/GDR-00007.jpg

mopar68 01-13-2012 11:12 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 303045)
Welcome back M68. Been missing your great pictures for awhile

liteweight

Someone noticed. :) Thanks.

M68

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/407...rbarracuda.jpg

thomas sheehan 01-13-2012 11:27 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 302101)
Here's a few of Rudy Schings B029 68 Hemi Barracuda...anyone here have any info on this car's history, heard it was bought out of Pete Myl's Chrysler in Pennsylvania.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3428/...d2863a3586.jpg
http://images9.fotki.com/v1541/photo.../img434-vi.jpg
http://images9.fotki.com/v1543/photo.../img396-vi.jpg

The third picture shows the couple that bought the car off of Rudy Schings. It was Frank Miller and his wife (both standing near drivers door). Frank currently runs a dodge avenger in NHRA super gas out of the pittsburgh area. (not sure where the car ended up after frank)

Hemi Moose 01-14-2012 05:05 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Tom thanks for the additional info...I've been talking to a couple of other members on here and it seems the car started out as Tom Myl's original B029 68 Hemi Barracuda, it was then sold to Rudy Schings and then to a few others, after that it ended up out west with Dave Raybourn called 'Mean Fish' and it was recently sold to Buckey Hess.

http://www.dragracingonline.com/pmac..._Mean_fish.jpg
http://www.dragracingonline.com/pmac...Rayburn-TM.jpg

Hemi Moose 01-15-2012 09:00 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Here's some before & after shots of the 'Drag Hag' B029 68 Hemi Barracuda...
I guess it would cost a bundle to put it back to all original.

http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/6/02/230...-undefined.jpg
http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/2/02/230...uda-SS-car.jpg
http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/8/51/23263518-667.jpg
http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/8/45/23263458-798.jpg
http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/0/53/23263530-339.jpg
http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/4/03/230...-undefined.jpg

Hemi Moose 01-15-2012 09:50 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Another is this B029 68 Hemi Barracuda originally owned by Park Chrysler/Plymouth, it was then sold in December 1970...it was sold a few more times and then street driven with a stroker motor.
http://mecum.com/auctions/FL0111/FL0...d=012911222108
http://mecum.com/auctions/FL0111/FL0...d=012911222108
http://mecum.com/auctions/FL0111/FL0...d=012911222108
http://mecum.com/auctions/FL0111/FL0...d=012911222108

Hemi Moose 01-15-2012 09:56 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Here's the original 'Checkmate' B029 Hemi Barracuda...the car was sold to Bullet Bob Reed, and later on to a few more recent owners.
http://mecum.com/auctions/FL0111/FL0...d=012911195312
http://mecum.com/auctions/FL0111/FL0...d=012911195312
http://mecum.com/auctions/FL0111/FL0...d=012911195312
http://mecum.com/auctions/FL0111/FL0...d=012911195312
http://mecum.com/auctions/FL0111/FL0...d=012911195312
http://mecum.com/auctions/FL0111/FL0...d=012911195312

marfen 01-16-2012 12:00 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Little tough to get in that one with all of that pipe!

mopar68 01-16-2012 12:56 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marfen (Post 304135)
Little tough to get in that one with all of that pipe!

Yeah, among other things. I'll stick with the old school drag cars.

M68

Liteweight 01-16-2012 10:28 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Great work HM locating/ matching up the latest updated cars to the original cars.

liteweight

Hemi Moose 01-16-2012 04:10 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Thanks guys, yeah it's a lot of work trying to match up these things, now maybe someone here can help out with this one...I can't quite make out the name painted on the side of this L023 68 Hemi Dart, the photo was taken on the west coast, anyone got any idea's...maybe someone can blow up the pic.

http://speednik.com/files/2010/09/70elimschartman.jpg

.

mopar68 01-16-2012 07:20 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 304201)
I can't quite make out the name painted on the side of this L023 68 Hemi Dart, the photo was taken on the west coast, anyone got any idea's....

It sez: Jenkins and Rettig Bros.

M68

Paul Ceasrine 01-16-2012 07:58 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Ken Montgomery (1969 Photo)

The starter is showing Ken where a 10.50 SS/B car is supposed to go..

A little chilly that day (April 1969)

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=8303

Hemi Moose 01-16-2012 08:00 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mopar68 (Post 304237)
It sez: Jenkins and Rettig Bros.

M68

okay thanks, I thought I heard that name mentioned on here before...anyone have any history about this L023 68 Hemi Dart.

And M68, check your pm's.

Paul Ceasrine 01-16-2012 08:44 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
SS/A National Record Holder;

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=4268

copperhead 01-17-2012 10:05 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 304201)
Thanks guys, yeah it's a lot of work trying to match up these things, now maybe someone here can help out with this one...I can't quite make out the name painted on the side of this L023 68 Hemi Dart, the photo was taken on the west coast, anyone got any idea's...maybe someone can blow up the pic.

http://speednik.com/files/2010/09/70elimschartman.jpg

.

I know it's not a Hemi Dart, but that is "Fast Eddie" Schartman in the other lane. 1 of 2 Mercury Cougars built with the Boss 429.

Hemi Moose 01-17-2012 03:27 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
PC, nice document you found there...maybe you can tell us all about the Centolanza B029 68 Hemi Barracuda car again.

http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/45...600x600Q85.jpg

rhinodaert 01-23-2012 09:06 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Mark J, who owned the car originally that Butch Johnson owns out of Chicago called the Run-A-Gate? I first saw it in 1987 and it hit several car shows in the area. Butch still owns it and it is rumored to be for sale, but big bucks! I believe it is a 4-speed car.

Jim

Hemi Moose 01-23-2012 09:35 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Any history on this '68 Hemi Barracuda...heard it was a car built after.

http://lotpro.com/blogphotos/Meadow%...%20%286%29.JPG
http://lotpro.com/blogphotos/Meadow%...%20%287%29.JPG
http://lotpro.com/blogphotos/Meadow%...%20%285%29.JPG


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:44 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.