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Mike Pearson 09-27-2017 03:04 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 546232)
When I ran IHRA, they kept tech open til 9pm on the first day. More than once, I had taken off work early just to get to an NHRA event, and they shut down tech at 5:00:00. I'd had my tech card stamped in the tech trailer, and as I walked around front, they slammed the window -- couldn't take another 10 seconds of their time. Other times, they turned around a line of cars in tech instead of servicing their customers.

There is no doubt that IHRA is more user friendly with the racers especially the ones that arrive after work on a Friday night. The gate is usually open and you can go in and park instead of stacking in a road.
Most of us agree that CM and PS are good classes that there are some good racers competing in those classes But I don't see NHRA trying to consolidate stock, PS, CM and GT stock into one class structure. There are way too many differences to be able to make that happen. NHRA wants only the very hardcore guys that can afford the expense of high entry fees and expensive cars to compete at their level. This is painfully obvious by the reduced quota at national events and this has a trickle down effect at the divisionals too. NHRA does not want more cars they want less cars and charge them more to play in their sandbox

Sam Capizzi Jr 09-27-2017 03:07 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
NHRA doesn't need pure stockers or crate motor cars. They have basically phased out the little guy with the budget stocker with their low quotas.

Crate motor classes just prolonged the death of Ihra stock.

IHRA is really the place to race if you fall into the lower budget category. You can show up Friday night and be home Sunday for work on Monday.
You can build a CM car, budget stocker or pure stocker for peanuts compared to a fast NHRA car. Plus they give you a free 3 tenths if your slow. For some reason people just aren't supporting them. Could it be the scheduling on top of nhra races, lack of stock/ss tech or the lack of contingency sponsors? Who knows... IHRA needs all the help they can get attracting cars for all classes and if there's a sportsman program next year I'd be surprised.

3. If you have a Crate motor car or Pure stocker sell sell sell because next year they are just going to be another street or modified car.

Just my 2cents

Nmbr1GMfan 09-27-2017 03:35 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 546212)
Dude...you are not looking for perspective.
You are trying to validate your argument that you do not like PS or CM.

I think you are just scared of us !! :D

D

No, really I'm not looking for an argument, I like to hear your insight. Although I don't think NHRA needs to or will ever open CM up to participation I do love the classes. I have a great friend that runs CM and if NHRA opened up to it he would never run NHRA anyhow, he just won't run NHRA. And I'm married with kids so I'm afraid of nothing! LOL

Nmbr1GMfan 09-27-2017 03:39 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 546232)
When I ran IHRA, they kept tech open til 9pm on the first day. More than once, I had taken off work early just to get to an NHRA event, and they shut down tech at 5:00:00. I'd had my tech card stamped in the tech trailer, and as I walked around front, they slammed the window -- couldn't take another 10 seconds of their time. Other times, they turned around a line of cars in tech instead of servicing their customers.

Exactly the input I'm after. I agree 100%, NHRA gives off a vibe of we should feel privileged to be there and IHRA gives the vibe they're privileged to have you as a racer. Thanks Michael.

Dan Fahey 09-27-2017 03:52 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Capizzi Jr (Post 546237)
NHRA doesn't need pure stockers or crate motor cars. They have basically phased out the little guy with the budget stocker with their low quotas.

Crate motor classes just prolonged the death of Ihra stock.

IHRA is really the place to race if you fall into the lower budget category. You can show up Friday night and be home Sunday for work on Monday.
You can build a CM car, budget stocker or pure stocker for peanuts compared to a fast NHRA car. Plus they give you a free 3 tenths if your slow. For some reason people just aren't supporting them. Could it be the scheduling on top of nhra races, lack of stock/ss tech or the lack of contingency sponsors? Who knows... IHRA needs all the help they can get attracting cars for all classes and if there's a sportsman program next year I'd be surprised.

3. If you have a Crate motor car or Pure stocker sell sell sell because next year they are just going to be another street or modified car.

Just my 2cents

Contingency Sponsor;
IHRA needs more Contingency Sponsors.
In fact not expensive to be a Contingency Sponsor.
Especially if you want to sponsor one Class in Stock.

DanSources is not a performance related company but an IT Technical Consulting and Staffing firm.

IHRA is not going anywhere but does need our support to hype up the excitement.

Heck will bet you a $10 dare you cannot beat a Pure Stocker :eek:

If you want to start a fire got to bring wood !!

D

Nmbr1GMfan 09-27-2017 03:56 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
In the last 5+ years have there been a significant increase in the grade points needed to qualify for a national?

Dan Fahey 09-27-2017 04:10 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
What are the Features Advantages and Benefits running NHRA?
Pain, long waits, tight parking, nitty (cranky) tech inspectors.
Stock is an after thought..


What are the Features Advantages and Benefits running IHRA?
A lot more fun than NHRA...!
More Class Variety, Friendlier Staff, two races in a weekend.
More relaxing, free Bench Racing, good food.
When you need a help you got it !

Just revving up the commentary again !!

D

Nmbr1GMfan 09-27-2017 05:01 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 546244)
What are the Features Advantages and Benefits running NHRA?
Pain, long waits, tight parking, nitty (cranky) tech inspectors.
Stock is an after thought..


What are the Features Advantages and Benefits running IHRA?
A lot more fun than NHRA...!
More Class Variety, Friendlier Staff, two races in a weekend.
More relaxing, free Bench Racing, good food.
When you need a help you got it !

Just revving up the commentary again !!

D

You forgot the part where you get home earlier from an IHRA race because there were 60 cars total. :D:D:D

Sam Capizzi Jr 09-27-2017 05:10 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 546242)
Contingency Sponsor;
IHRA needs more Contingency Sponsors.
In fact not expensive to be a Contingency Sponsor.
Especially if you want to sponsor one Class in Stock.

DanSources is not a performance related company but an IT Technical Consulting and Staffing firm.

IHRA is not going anywhere but does need our support to hype up the excitement.

Heck will bet you a $10 dare you cannot beat a Pure Stocker :eek:

If you want to start a fire got to bring wood !!

D

. 🤔🤔 well then. Your comparing apples and oranges if we are talking a heads up race. As far as a dialed in bracket race you better be ready to put up more then that $10 lol. Add a few zeroes. P.s. Thanks for your efforts with the contingency postings

Nmbr1GMfan 09-27-2017 05:32 PM

Re: Crate Motor Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Capizzi Jr (Post 546252)
.Thanks for your efforts with the contingency postings

I agree, good man for posting contingencies.


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