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SStockDart 08-05-2017 03:14 AM
Re: Important if you run D-H/S or SA
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 541005)
This thread is killing me. I don't know if I should start to build a Mopar Stocker or pack drag racing in all together.
It is killing me too. If Steve Wann has something to do with it, you know it is wicked fast. Ie: A/SA record. The Duster used to be Stevè's car.

Rick Leininger Jr. 08-05-2017 09:38 AM
Re: Important if you run D-H/S or SA
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by B Aceves (Post 541037)
That's a load of B.S. right there lol. Some of us know exactly what that LD 340 intake was worth on the exact combo in question . I'm not taking anything away from the guys who made it happen they did the homework they convinced NHRA to allow the use of this intake and went on from there and did what they needed to do to make it work ..
I Guess next is going to be how hard it is to find a
Good stock Q jet and let us bolt on Fuel injection.
Maybe even a Aluminium D port head some day .
I will let you know what the side by side comparison is on those cause it's probably Zero point Zero as well.
No assuming here lol.
No BS or assuming at all, that's what happened in the real world. The test was as accurate as we could make it, and just didn't see anything other than some weight off the nose.

Of course, with you running in the same class as the 340 combo, I understand your concern over any perceived advantage it, or any other E/SA combo may have over yours.

Bob Mulry 08-05-2017 12:43 PM
Re: Important if you run D-H/S or SA
 
I thought that with the new and improved NHRA Tech Management that the "revision" to allow the use of a non-assembly line, after market, Direct Connection performance aluminum manifold would include a 10 HP reduction in rating due to having to add additional ballast?????????????

I don't get it, but maybe that's OK, too..............

Very soon with aftermarket aluminum performance intake manifolds, roller rocker arms, solid hydraulic lifters (flat & roller), aftermarket disk brakes, aluminum radiators & seats, unlimited spring design and pressure and now all that the NHRA needs to do is to eliminate the stock valve lift spec and we are what's known as Super Stock.....

Very nice work NHRA it looks like you will be able to get more time to run the Pros, plus it leaves time for the spectators to view exhibitions like the Big Tire / Small Tire fiasco and jet dragsters...

Another job well done by NHRA Tech Management.....

Michael K 08-07-2017 10:23 AM
Re: Important if you run D-H/S or SA
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 541044)
It is killing me too. If Steve Wann has something to do with it, you know it is wicked fast. Ie: A/SA record. The Duster used to be Stevè's car.



Seems to me that's where the credit belongs.

jimi 08-08-2017 09:09 AM
Re: Important if you run D-H/S or SA
 
if you bolted a stock cast iron intake on that duster it would run exactly the same as the ld 340 . we tried all of that crap 20 plus years ago you would be surprised how little change intake have , they don't turn enough rpm to make a difference. maybe just maybe they spent the time to make the carburetor and fuel system converter gearing shift points etc..... work properly , only benefit I see is 20# in the trunk.

Larry Fulton 08-08-2017 09:39 AM
Re: Important if you run D-H/S or SA
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by michael beard (Post 540891)
it's funny how people work so hard to get aftermarket parts approved that "aren't worth any power or et".
Amen to that!

Greg Hill 08-08-2017 10:25 AM
Re: Important if you run D-H/S or SA
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimi (Post 541268)
if you bolted a stock cast iron intake on that duster it would run exactly the same as the ld 340 . we tried all of that crap 20 plus years ago you would be surprised how little change intake have , they don't turn enough rpm to make a difference. maybe just maybe they spent the time to make the carburetor and fuel system converter gearing shift points etc..... work properly , only benefit I see is 20# in the trunk.
If you don't think they turn a bunch more rpm than they did 20 years you must of been sleeping this whole time. It's amazing what tons of spring pressure, roller rockers, and new cam lobe designs will do.

Wayne Kerr 08-08-2017 10:55 AM
Re: Important if you run D-H/S or SA
 
I've followed this thread for a little while, and I am not that smart, so help me out here.

Someone lobbied NHRA to allow an aftermarket intake manifold in stock eliminator. Correct?

Yet this manifold has ZERO performance benefit?

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

Floyd Staggs 08-08-2017 11:08 AM
Re: Important if you run D-H/S or SA
 
I ran out of popcorn 15 pages ago.

Dwight Southerland 08-08-2017 11:59 AM
Re: Important if you run D-H/S or SA
 
Doesn't matter if it is a performance gain or not, it should not have been allowed.


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