Re: S/SS - Lower the index -0.50 & run Pro ladder
 

Dick, What class will you be running when they are consildated? Im sure you will be the fastest!

Re: S/SS - Lower the index -0.50 & run Pro ladder
 

Here we go again, "lets lower the indexes". What is wrong with you people. All you are trying to do is to protect your combo from being hit with HP because you can run more that 1 second under. So instead of doing a viable solution, you take the ignorant route. Meanwhile you will eliminate alot of racers or soon to be entrants. The only reason that you want to lower the indexes is for your own agendas. If you tomatoes out there had any brains you would be pushing for an elimination of the trigger. That is where the problem exists. The trigger. If there was no trigger you could run it out and not worry. Then you would have everybody going all out and viola, a performance based category. Who cares if you go 1 under or 1.5 under, it only matters when it is a heads up race. Why would you build a "race car" and try to slow it down. That is stupid. Get off your butts and bitch to NHRA to get rid of the trigger. After a while it will be evident which combos are in need of review and actions can be taken then. After about a year of running it out the back door it will be obvious which combos are factored wrong.

Now quit you ridiculous campaigning to lower the indexes and start bitching to get rid of that pain in the *** trigger.

And while I am thinking about it tell NHRA to quit raping the contingency sponsors. Then you would not have to consolidate classes.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA does'nt really matter, Stock will be gone soon. T/D & T/S

Re: S/SS - Lower the index -0.50 & run Pro ladder
 

I agree totally with Ron Ortiz. Drop the trigger altogether & leave the indexes alone! Lowering the number will do nothing but stop new people from wanting to run in Stock/Super Stock. Not a solution to the current problem.

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Let me get see if I get this line of thinking.
If you never lower the indexes and do away with the trigger for factoring, eventually there would be two or more seconds between two cars in the same class.
How many seconds would be acceptable to not discourage new participants 2?... 3 ?

Re: S/SS - Lower the index -0.50 & run Pro ladder
 

That is perhaps a good point that there may be quite a gap between two cars in the same class. But will not N.H.R.A. re-factor the horsepower of the cars that continue to run real fast after the trigger goes away. If two cars happen to have the same combo in the same class the slow car will also be hit,which is essentially making it tougher for him to run the index.
I actually think even if they dropped the trigger there would still be a bit of the sandbagging that exists now because no one wants to get h.p. by going too fast & getting "noticed".

Re: S/SS - Lower the index -0.50 & run Pro ladder
 

At this point in time I do not believe would be 2 seconds between any class in stock. Lowering indexes is the same old garbage.

Re: S/SS - Lower the index -0.50 & run Pro ladder
 

This is exactly what we had before, that everyone complained about.

Re: S/SS - Lower the index -0.50 & run Pro ladder
 

Not saying there is now, Tony. That would be the results eventually.
You already have JR Stock cars running 1.50 under .How long before they run 10.30's ?
How much is too much?

Re: S/SS - Lower the index -0.50 & run Pro ladder
 

Okay, so you remove the trigger. The trigger doesn't do anything but cause an evaluation to be done. So, no trigger, no evaluation. No evaluation, no HP changes. How well is THAT going to work? And don't even THINK about a "HP committee". That sure as Hell won't work.

Re: S/SS - Lower the index -0.50 & run Pro ladder
 

No, I would not call moving classes and not running on kill all the time cheating. I'd call it wise, as well as smart racing. Especially when the combination is by far not the most under factored in the classes.