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Charley Downing 03-30-2009 08:26 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
At the end of the day its up to danny and that where I got my info on this topic. Danny trumps all div tech people end of story.

Denny Steward 03-30-2009 08:27 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Jack
maybe I did not word it right, but Billy is RIGHT what I was trying to say is you must fit the class weight
ie. 8.00 to 8.49 and so on.

Ed Fernandez 03-30-2009 09:08 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Downing3548 (Post 112297)
At the Orlando pts the div 2 tech director ( Jim C) told racers that they must weight no more then the minimum for the next class up. Example if in you were running D/SA you could not weight more then the Minimum for E/SA with your combo. At the Gatornationls I went over the scales more then 150 pounds heavy and the div 2 tech director Jim C told me I would need to take 30 pounds out to make my car legal. After that run I went and talked to two of the national tech directors. They then told me that there was no such rule and I could run as heavy as I wanted to and not to worry about it.

Maybe it's time for Danny to collect his pension, although the next national tech director might not be any better maybe it's worth a shot.This topic and a few other current issues may well be the beginning of the end for us unless someone in charge has the balls to tackle what ails us.
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Ed F.

STK4340 03-30-2009 09:32 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
I don't really see a problem with someone carrying extra weight. I could really care less if someone is running their car a few hundred pounds heavier than their minimum; just as long as they are not under weight. Running the car heavy certainly will not make it faster. Why not run the car heavy in really good air so as to help not to hurt the combo for everyone else who doesn't have the luxury of racing in good air?

Instead of petitioning NHRA to keep tabs on "over-weighters", why not ask to lower the indexes a tenth or two? Wouldn't that be the most simple thing to do for us and NHRA? Just my two cents...


Ryan Becnel

Brandon Peterson 03-30-2009 09:42 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
"Are you serious? You're a big boy (tall wise) but you don't look that BIG. You carry it well!! "

yup...it used to be solid muscle back in my ole football days...lol...but yeah i do

Denny Steward 03-30-2009 10:10 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
the reason I was told for your car having to fit the class you are in, is say there are 7 c/sa, 5 b/sa and o a/sa and the slowest of the c/sa cars now enters a/sa to avoid a heads up race that might happen in elims. without changing anything but the letter on the window. People that work on there cars and are fast should understand that this is the only way class racing should be if we dont start some where it will only be a matter of time before there is no heads up or quaifing and it will be just an all run bracket race

SS Engine Guy 03-30-2009 10:39 PM

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I agree as to the way the rule book reads. ie: between 8.00 - 8.500 as an example. However, that is not the way it has worked for years in S/SS. Last year I made a qualifying run behind the eventual #1 qualifier and heard the scale tech tell him he was 900lbs. heavy. At the end of qualifying he was 1.37 under. National tech and div. tech told me that was perfectly legal. Illegal would be below the minimum weigh on his sticker. I brought up what some are talking about the weight breaks in the rule book (which I agree with) and they laughed in my face. No grey areas..................you guys are right. The only thing black and white is the paper and the print.

Ed Fernandez 03-30-2009 11:59 PM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STK4340 (Post 112396)
I don't really see a problem with someone carrying extra weight. I could really care less if someone is running their car a few hundred pounds heavier than their minimum; just as long as they are not under weight. Running the car heavy certainly will not make it faster. Why not run the car heavy in really good air so as to help not to hurt the combo for everyone else who doesn't have the luxury of racing in good air?

Instead of petitioning NHRA to keep tabs on "over-weighters", why not ask to lower the indexes a tenth or two? Wouldn't that be the most simple thing to do for us and NHRA? Just my two cents...


Ryan Becnel

True,running a car heavy will not make it fast,but it will hide a car that is terrible under factored,which is what's causing all the commotion.A tenth or two wont affect the really fast cars,only borderline qualifiers and class winners near the .50 under zone.

Phillip marvetz 03-31-2009 12:32 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
So then what happens to cars like the portly cadillac? let it run heavy or make it extinct? If we outlaw it we are just doing what so many of you are saying NHRA is trying to do, get rid of the old iron...........

Chuck Porter 03-31-2009 12:55 AM

Re: Overweight Stockers
 
Ya - I can see it all now. The next thing we know NHRA will tie the AHFS system to weight. If you cross the scales and are 200 pounds heavy the slug gods will give you 5 horsepower.
Chuck


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