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Bryan Gillespie 07-10-2009 04:02 PM

Re: Super Classes Future
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Williams (Post 129201)
Excellent point. Knock a second off each class?

I heard that somewhere else , now where was it ??????
Oh Ya, I think I put it in the .90 section.
It's called lowering the index.

Chris Williams 07-10-2009 07:57 PM

Re: Super Classes Future
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Gillespie (Post 129348)
I heard that somewhere else , now where was it ??????
Oh Ya, I think I put it in the .90 section.
It's called lowering the index.

So did I, in post #25 of this thread.

SG1809 07-11-2009 07:26 AM

Re: Super Classes Future
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Williams (Post 129336)
Guess one has to decide if the racing is for the racer or the spectator. As a racer, I think throttle stop racing is a blast. Anytime the MOV is routinely less than a hun, that's fun racing.

I understand why spectators think it's "weird". But I've explained it 1000 times, and once people get it, their reaction is almost always "OMG, that's *hard*".

I agree completly with Chis, I enjoy Throttle stop racing and once it's explained people do understand it. Maybe if the announcers spent a little more time explaining it the fans might be more inclined to watch. Even if they did I don't feel it will change some of the complaints we have. Economy has impacted us hard but the way we are treated and percieved has been getting worse through out the years. I agree with Bob and Dave, the smaller venues MASGA & Brackets may be the way to go.

Regards,

Pat I.

Chris Williams 07-11-2009 09:32 AM

Re: Super Classes Future
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SG1809 (Post 129386)
Maybe if the announcers spent a little more time explaining it the fans might be more inclined to watch.

I've said it over and over: the NHRA should spend some time making a series of 2-3 minute videos explaining many aspects of the sport. They could make everything from "how the timing system works" to "what are all the different classes", from "how they tune a nitro car" to "how qualifying is done", and of course "how the super classes work", etc., etc. Run these in all the down-time instead of the Geico clowns shooting t-shirts into the crowd...

Lynn Hoosigian 07-11-2009 12:47 PM

Re: Super Classes Future
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Williams (Post 129407)
I've said it over and over: the NHRA should spend some time making a series of 2-3 minute videos explaining many aspects of the sport. They could make everything from "how the timing system works" to "what are all the different classes", from "how they tune a nitro car" to "how qualifying is done", and of course "how the super classes work", etc., etc. Run these in all the down-time instead of the Geico clowns shooting t-shirts into the crowd...

EXCELLENT idea!!!!
We've explained throttle stop racing to some spectators ourselves and it's true - once they understand it, they respect how hard it is!! Showing clips explaining would be best way to get to more than 1 or 2 spectators!!

H.A.A.C. Racing 07-11-2009 05:55 PM

Re: Super Classes Future
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Williams (Post 129336)
Guess one has to decide if the racing is for the racer or the spectator. As a racer, I think throttle stop racing is a blast. Anytime the MOV is routinely less than a hun, that's fun racing.

I understand why spectators think it's "weird". But I've explained it 1000 times, and once people get it, their reaction is almost always "OMG, that's *hard*".

Could not have said it better!!! I love T-Stop racing! As far as a diff. style of throttle stop, I for one don't like the thought of going back to the stone ages, maybe after the 1-2 shift, if the car doesn't slow enough, we can push a manual roof flap for resistance? Give me a break! Instead of trying to re-invent the wheel, lets educate the fans. Personally, I have never explained it to a fan and heard them say that it sucked, and lets be real, no one will ever kick all the electronics manf. out of the sport, and do we want them out? If we banned electronics, we would lost 10 cars just from the Biondo's. It's here to stay, lets educate!!!!

Mark Schmidt 07-13-2009 01:53 PM

Re: Super Classes Future
 
A video for the big screen is a great idea. Super class racers understood weather changes long before the pros did.

Ed Fernandez 07-14-2009 02:44 PM

Re: Super Classes Future
 
[QUOTE=Lynn Hoosigian;129417]EXCELLENT idea!!!!
We've explained throttle stop racing to some spectators ourselves and it's true - once they understand it, they respect how hard it is!! Showing clips explaining would be best way to get to more than 1 or 2 spectators!![/Q

Lynn,you guys are in the same boat as us S/SSers.The fan of today could care less about us or our cars.They aren't car people anymore.They're thrill seekers in general.Noise,flames,crashes,autographs.
We've been bouncing this around in the S/SS section for years now.The only spectators here in Div 1 at division's are ourselves,friends and those who come to see the booked in pro mod/or whatever show.
We don't do it for money,most of us anyway,just for fun and the great people we get to meet.
I drove 4 1/2 hours to run at Beaver Springs at the York Reunion.It was the most fun I've ever had with my pants on.attended the York Reunion at the fairgrounds on fridayAll the nostalgia races are looking better every year.No pressure for points,good people,good racing and fans that are attuned to the cars.
Just my 1 1/2 cents,the economy is bad.

wsmracing 07-15-2009 08:49 AM

Re: Super Classes Future
 
.........i think your all looking in the same direction as a lot of us........the individual groups are starting to seem the way to go........you won't win a wally, but the race is built around your class............years ago i remember going to s/c,s/g s/sst races,, its your race............even if it came down to a track rental for a pro tree association........or something like that.........it seems like you continue to get less for more from nhra...............i'm starting to like ihra's format...............run a couple of races in one weekend..........masga is the best thing going for super gas in our area.............the people are great, its a fun family outing & the tracks almost seem to really want you there.......................its a business......we're customers.........................if you went to a grocery store & they kept taking your money & kicking you in the d%$# ...you'd find another store to give your money to.........after all these years, short of having bottemless pockets ....its really getting to be old hat.................lucky gives you the best race possible , & uncle buck & the boys give you the best food & entertainment...............it works for me.............................but thats just my opinion............& we all know what they say about opinions..........!

Dave Steltz 07-15-2009 09:13 AM

Re: Super Classes Future
 
Wayne, you hit it right on the head...

I'm too old/impatient/something and I really got bored with Div racing...I love all the fun after hours and enjoy seeing racers that I would only see at the D1 races, but that being said, after about 10 years of a steady diet of it......

Right now I'm racing the NESSA series (a 10.90 series at LVD), bracket racing, "special events" racing, I did the LVD D1 race and will probably race ETown,going to race in Maryland Labor day and having a great time...makes for a nice mix of racing, and all are one day races, or Sat/Sun events....


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