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Ken Haase 10-28-2009 01:07 PM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
Jeff, I was able to appreciate Jim's more conventional(ie.pre-historic) operation of the clutch pedal as he shifted coming back on the return road. Undoubtedly due to the lower RPM. And concern for his passenger,LOL. Of course, my 60+ year old eyes don't catch everything. These video's definitely make me lust for that additional pedal in my car.

I was curious about one thing though. What is the purpose of the repeated clutch action as he is staging? Or am I just a confused old man?

Greg Barsamian 10-28-2009 02:06 PM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
So thats why those guys had so many women at the end of the pits at Indy!

"Chicks dig Sticks"

Mike Voth 10-28-2009 03:05 PM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
Ken,
After pre-stage, a stick racer sets the brake pressure and uses the linelock to hold the pressure. "Bumping" the clutch allows the driving to stage the car under light brake pressure. I'm assuming this is what you're referring to???

Ken Haase 10-28-2009 11:10 PM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
Yep. Thanks Mike. I thought that was probably it, but it seemed a little 'exagerrated' or something. I better go watch it again. I might learn something.

Jeff Lee 10-28-2009 11:27 PM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
If you have to REALLY bump it in, you might have the brake pressure too high. 50-75 pounds is plenty to keep the car from moving forward as long as you have adequate air-gap. If you have a really tight air-gap it may require more brake pressure to hold the car on the line as you go WOT.

Dinsdale 10-29-2009 12:16 AM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 148385)
James is amazingly quick with that heel / toe movement. Aren't any of you guys old enough to remember "Kung-**" with David Caradine? "Snatch the pebble from my hand and you may go" That took years of persistently hard work but finally little grasshopper was ready to leave.
The life long dedication and refinement of the art of shifting is demonstrated here for all the world to view. James has elevated his art to such a higher standard that many may not even recognize what they are witnessing. It's sad but it's just a fact of life that many can't appreciate what they are witnessing.

This is the first (and maybe last) time I call B.S. on Jeff's comments! I hope no one is buying this since almost all the stock and S/S guys I know don't clutch. It is against the rules BTW but everyone does it. Most race trans may not like not using the clutch but it will go into gear just fine. I've heard it's good for a tenth. I stab my clutch because I can't help myself. Can't say if it's actually releasing or not but my trans is relatively happy. The hemi stick car runs a G-Force and I have a Jerico. McLeod's in both.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/973-137_709593.htm

Mike Taylor 3601 10-29-2009 06:21 AM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
Any you old stick guys remember Hay's Mark XII pressure plates 3200 lbs static press, had to have seat
belts to hold you down in seat while pushed clutch pedal down. MarkXII w/Ram 6 bronze paddle disc
when you launched them it felt like your're car got rearended by a truck.We were ignorant
(hope I spelled that right,that would be ironic to spell ignorant wrong)didn't want clutch to slip or have fancy
smancy rev limiters or line locs but we liked'ddd thaaat waaay.LOL
Mike Taylor 3601
BTW anyone that thinks automatics are still cheaper needs to do some price checking.
auto or stick now almost same money.

Tom keedle 10-29-2009 07:41 AM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 148518)
Any you old stick guys remember Hay's Mark XII pressure plates 3200 lbs static press, had to have seat
belts to hold you down in seat while pushed clutch pedal down. MarkXII w/Ram 6 bronze paddle disc
when you launched them it felt like your're car got rearended by a truck.We were ignorant
(hope I spelled that right,that would be ironic to spell ignorant wrong)didn't want clutch to slip or have fancy
smancy rev limiters or line locs but we liked'ddd thaaat waaay.LOL
Mike Taylor 3601
BTW anyone that thinks automatics are still cheaper needs to do some price checking.
auto or stick now almost same money.



my left leg STILL shakes just thinking about it....

Jeff Lee 10-29-2009 09:30 AM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinsdale (Post 148508)
This is the first (and maybe last) time I call B.S. on Jeff's comments! I hope no one is buying this since almost all the stock and S/S guys I know don't clutch. It is against the rules BTW but everyone does it. Most race trans may not like not using the clutch but it will go into gear just fine. I've heard it's good for a tenth. I stab my clutch because I can't help myself. Can't say if it's actually releasing or not but my trans is relatively happy. The hemi stick car runs a G-Force and I have a Jerico. McLeod's in both.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/973-137_709593.htm

WHAT! I should try that someday! :)

TOSTO RACING 10-29-2009 04:24 PM

Re: Ride-Along Video In a J/Stock Chevy II 4-Speed
 
Cool Video!


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